[NFL] vBook: NFL Super Bowl: Tampa Bay Bucs vs Kansas City Chiefs

[NDRock]

You need two things to win a SuperBowl.

A top 10 Defense and a Great QB. Sometimes there are exceptions like Trent Dilfer or Nick Foles. There are exceptions to every rule but Tom Brady has never won a ring without a top10 defense.

2020 - Tampa Bay #7 Defense - Tom Brady
2019 - Kansas City #10 Defense - Pat Mahommes
2018 - Patriots #6 Defense - Brady
2017 - Philly #4 Defense - Wentz/Foles
2016 - Patriots #1 Defense - Brady
2015 - Denver #4 Defense - Manning
2014 - Patriots #7 Defense - Brady
2013 - Seattle #1 Defense - Wilson
2012 - Ravens #4 Defense - Flacco
2011 - Giants #21 Defense - EManning
2010 - Green Bay #1 Defense - Rodgers
2009 - Saints #18 Defense - Brees
2008 - Steelers #2 Def - Big Ben
2007 - Giants #14 Def - EManning
2006 - Colts #18 Defense - PManning
2005 - Steelers #3 Def - Big Ben
2004 - Patriots #2 Defense - Brady
2003 - Patriots Patriots #1 Defense - Brady
2002 - Tampa Bay #1 Defense - Johnson
2001 - Patriots #6 - Brady

Defensive Facts:
Tom Brady has played 20 seasons. 17 of those with a top 10 defense. 10 SuperBowls - 7 Wins.
Peyton Manning played 14 seasons. 6 of those with a top 10 defense. 4 SuperBowls - 2 Wins.
Tom Brady has had more Top 10 defenses in his 20 seasons than Manning, Brees, and Rodgers combined in 47 seasons combined seasons.


Tom Brady is great and is in the discussion but counting rings you have to account for what Tom has had that others have not.

In the last 3 superbowl wins for Tom Brady, his defense has allowed 19 points in their last 11 quarters.

Can we really sit here and say if Peyton had a top 10 defense 85% of the time he does not win 7? I say he does easily. Give Brees and Rodgers the same and they might.

Maybe if Manning didn’t take a huge salary every year there would have been extra cap space for more players. Brady consistently taking less has always been a factor in his success.

[Blazers46]

Maybe if Manning didn’t take a huge salary every year there would have been extra cap space for more players. Brady consistently taking less has always been a factor in his success.

Sure. I agree.

[Irish2155]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is one of the worst stories I’ve ever read. Based on public details seems likely Andy’s son goes (back) to jail? Saddest detail is the child wasn’t even in the car that broke down, but in the second car with family that came to help. Britt Reid crashed into both parked cars <a href="https://t.co/r9MpkPi0rb">https://t.co/r9MpkPi0rb</a></p>&mdash; Chris B. Brown (@smartfootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/smartfootball/status/1358892712808824833?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is horrible. Reid’s son could be in some serious trouble. I don’t remember hearing about this before the game.

[Rogue219]

This Chiefs defense, from my point of view, looks like it was built to play with the lead. When you don't have the lead and the script gets flipped, you need to have something to allow your offense to be able to come back. Useless if you're juiceless and that defense got behind early. No juice.

I think they were flagged a few times in the second quarter on very questionable calls. I also think a couple guys played without discipline and got frustrated. That's coaching as well as being a professional. Honey Badger lost his shit a few times. He got rattled.

The knock on Montana was he had all that tremendous skill talent around him and Young stepped right in. I don't care what you think, Montana won some huge games home and away that most guys just don't, Jerry Rice or not. Brady has been consistently great for twenty years in addition to having very good timing and some luck. Luck plays a huge part in winning championships, as does timing, and nobody seems to want to believe in that randomness because it takes away from greatness and the idea of preordained "destiny." Take your lucky bounces and roll with them. I don't give a damn who you are. Plenty of champions have been lucky in addition to good. That's how Trent Dilfer wins a Super Bowl and Dan Marino doesn't.

I like Mahomes' long term future. I think he can win multiple Super Bowls. Bienemy might be waiting for Reid to step down and take the reigns, but even if he moves on to be an HC elsewhere, how do you not chomp at the bit to be an HC and OC with the Chiefs as long as Mahomes is there? He had his worst game since his freshman year vs TCU and had a piecemeal offensive line in front of him. I think he'll be okay and I think he's the next face of the league.

Or Brady plays for another 15 years and totally fucks him out of trophies.

[Rogue219]

Maybe if Manning didn’t take a huge salary every year there would have been extra cap space for more players. Brady consistently taking less has always been a factor in his success.

This is an EXCELLENT point.

They should have gotten him WR help and maybe he'd still be in New England. I didn't understand why they kept dumpster diving for WR when they had him at QB.

[Blazers46]

This is an EXCELLENT point.

They should have gotten him WR help and maybe he'd still be in New England. I didn't understand why they kept dumpster diving for WR when they had him at QB.

Because it works. The recipe for Championships is a Top10 defense and a Good/Great QB.