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    *Bet vbucks*

    NFL Super Bowl: Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs Kansas City Chiefs

    Raymond James Stadium
    Tampa Bay, FL
    Coverage: CBS
    Kickoff: Approximately 6:30 pm

    Favorite: Chiefs -3.5
    Over/Under: 55.5
    Moneylines: Bucs +144 Chiefs -166

    Prop Bets:
    How long will it take for Eric Church and Jazmine Sullivan to sing the national anthem?
    Over 1:59 minutes -105
    Under 1:59 minutes -125

    Coin Toss Result
    Heads -101
    Tails -101

    Will opening kickoff be a touchback?
    Yes -220
    No +190

    What will the first offensive play be?
    Run play -120
    Pass play or sack +100

    Will there be a score in the first five minutes?
    Yes -110
    No -110

    First team to score
    Kansas City -130
    Tampa Bay +110

    What will be the first score of game?
    Touchdown -160
    Field goal or safety +140

    What Color Liquid Will Be Poured On The Winning Coach Of Super Bowl 55?
    Orange+100
    Red +300
    Lime/Green/Yellow +450
    Clear/Water +600
    Blue +700
    Purple +750

    Super Bowl MVP
    Patrick Mahomes -120
    Tom Brady +200
    Travis Kelce +1000
    Tyreek Hill +1000
    Leonard Fournette +2500
    Mike Evans +2800
    Chris Godwin +3000
    Clyde Edwards-Helaire +3500
    Mecole Hardman +5000
    Ronald Jones +5500
    Antonio Brown +5500
    Sammy Watkins +6600
    Rob Gronkowski +6600

    Who Will Score The First Touchdown?
    Travis Kelce +500
    Tyreek Hill +500
    Field +750
    Leonard Fournette +900
    Mike Evans +900
    Chris Godwin +1000
    Clyde Edwards-Helaire +1100
    Rob Gronkowski +1100
    Patrick Mahomes +1100
    Darrel Williams +1300
    Antonio Brown +1400
    Ronald Jones +1400
    Mecole Hardman +1500
    Tom Brady +2900

    Tom Brady Passing Yards
    Over 294.5 -110
    Under 294.5 -110

    Patrick Mahomes Passing Yards

    Over 329.5 -110
    Under 329.5 -110
    Last edited by NDdomer2; 02-05-2021, 04:44 PM.
    Prehistoric

  • #2
    if anyone else has a prop they want added i can do that
    Prehistoric

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    • #3
      Originally posted by NDdomer2 View Post
      if anyone else has a prop they want added i can do that
      You're saying you'll allow it?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Me2SouthBend View Post
        You're saying you'll allow it?
        Prehistoric

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        • #5
          Bump

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          • #6
            KC with some big drops and just overall realllllllly struggling on offense right now. They are really presssing.

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            • #7
              This punter is going to get cut.

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              • #8
                Brady sure looks on track for another ring. The Bucs are putting it on the Chiefs.
                Winners see success and want to climb up to its level. Losers see success and want to drag it down to their own.

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                • #9
                  Refs doing their part to giving Brady another ring.
                  It's Just a Ride.

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                  • #10
                    Andy Reid is an idiot. It makes literally no sense to be calling timeouts there. What on earth are you doing.

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                    • #11
                      Some of the worst officiating I've seen in a game of this level.

                      Just wow.
                      It's Just a Ride.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                        KC with some big drops and just overall realllllllly struggling on offense right now. They are really presssing.
                        Their OTs cannot block their men

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Crazy Balki View Post
                          Some of the worst officiating I've seen in a game of this level.

                          Just wow.
                          KC literally holding on every play. Trying the old Patriots tactic.
                          "The problem with having a sense of humor is often that people you use it on aren't in a very good mood." - Lou Holtz

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by stpeteirish View Post
                            Their OTs cannot block their men
                            Yep. Losing up front on both sides of the ball.
                            "The problem with having a sense of humor is often that people you use it on aren't in a very good mood." - Lou Holtz

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                            • #15
                              This reminds me of a Notre Dame BCS/Playoff Game...

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                              • #16
                                Refs, KC oline, and KC D have this game sealed early. And we didn't even get good commercials or halftime show
                                Prehistoric

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by NDdomer2 View Post
                                  Refs, KC oline, and KC D have this game sealed early. And we didn't even get good commercials or halftime show
                                  You didn't like the jockstrap heads dancing around?

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                                  • #18
                                    This game shows how important OL play is. You can’t run long crossing routes or slow developing/complex plays without an OL

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                                    • #19
                                      The Buc's LB play has been unreal. They are so fast, they are able to rush, play the run and defend routes with White, David and Shaq. All three of those guys run 4.4's.

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                                      • #20
                                        "The Secret to Eric Bieniemy's Unstoppable Offense."

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                                        • #21
                                          Originally posted by Ndaccountant View Post
                                          You didn't like the jockstrap heads dancing around?
                                          Seeing kunis in the cheeto commercial has been best thing all night
                                          Prehistoric

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                                          • #22
                                            The Chiefs need to invest all of their draft picks in offensive linemen.

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                                            • #23
                                              Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                              The Chiefs need to invest all of their draft picks in offensive linemen.
                                              It's not like these are their opening day starters, they are down 4 guys.

                                              D line and LB play should be bigger focus
                                              Prehistoric

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                                              • #24
                                                Originally posted by NDdomer2 View Post
                                                It's not like these are their opening day starters, they are down 4 guys.

                                                D line and LB play should be bigger focus
                                                I mean, you also need much better backups. You could put the ND or Bama OL in this game and they would be playing better than this clown show. With a less magical QB than Mahomes they wouldíve given up literally 10 sacks.

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                                                • #25
                                                  Chiefs O-line play is the worst I’ve seen in an NFL game!

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                                                  • #26
                                                    Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                                    I mean, you also need much better backups. You could put the ND or Bama OL in this game and they would be playing better than this clown show. With a less magical QB than Mahomes they wouldíve given up literally 10 sacks.
                                                    Yes because backup OL is where championships are built. Cmon you donít draft to bulk up your backup OL. Your backup OL is mostly guys you gave a chance to start at one point and UDFAs

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                                                    • #27
                                                      Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                                      I mean, you also need much better backups. You could put the ND or Bama OL in this game and they would be playing better than this clown show. With a less magical QB than Mahomes they would’ve given up literally 10 sacks.
                                                      I'm not saying that's wrong but you can't draft on projecting against losing 4 starters
                                                      Prehistoric

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                                                      • #28
                                                        Originally posted by Dale View Post
                                                        Yes because backup OL is where championships are built. Cmon you donít draft to bulk up your backup OL. Your backup OL is mostly guys you gave a chance to start at one point and UDFAs
                                                        Apparently can't rep again
                                                        Prehistoric

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                                                        • #29
                                                          Chiefs D need lifetime supply of flex seal
                                                          Prehistoric

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                                                          • #30
                                                            Brady is Goat.

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                                                            • #31
                                                              Originally posted by Me2SouthBend View Post
                                                              Brady is Goat.
                                                              Agreed. Maybe this will end all the questions. Im happy for him. This should officially stamp his legacy.
                                                              Once we truly come together as a family, nothing can stop us. Itís my job to make sure we become that family.Ē

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                                                              • #32
                                                                NFL people who praise Brady (rightfully so) but say CFB is boring because of Alabama are the most bizarre sports fans

                                                                Incredible levels of greatness on both. Unless you are on the otherside of the field, hard not to be just impressed at this point

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                                                                • #33
                                                                  He needs to retire! I want there to be a changing of the guard in the NFL so bad...but Brady won’t let that happen. He is the GOAT but needs to go...lol.

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                                                                  • #34
                                                                    I would like to add that Winfield jrs taunt to tyreek hill was epic. And will be memed for years to come. Lol.
                                                                    Once we truly come together as a family, nothing can stop us. Itís my job to make sure we become that family.Ē

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                                                                    • #35
                                                                      <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here are the path&#39;s that Patrick Mahomes (top) and Tom Brady (bottom) took before pass attempts in shotgun during tonight&#39;s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SuperBowl?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Super Bowl</a> <br><br>Red: complete<br>White: incomplete <a href="https://t.co/TLFEOxzwhr">pic.twitter.com/TLFEOxzwhr</a></p>&mdash; Michael Lopez (@StatsbyLopez) <a href="https://twitter.com/StatsbyLopez/status/1358620162904248320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

                                                                      Insane.

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                                                                      • #36
                                                                        Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                                                        <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here are the path's that Patrick Mahomes (top) and Tom Brady (bottom) took before pass attempts in shotgun during tonight's <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SuperBowl?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Super Bowl</a> <br><br>Red: complete<br>White: incomplete <a href="https://t.co/TLFEOxzwhr">pic.twitter.com/TLFEOxzwhr</a></p>&mdash; Michael Lopez (@StatsbyLopez) <a href="https://twitter.com/StatsbyLopez/status/1358620162904248320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

                                                                        Insane.
                                                                        Yikes! That's REALLY telling. That KC O-line wasn't up to the job and the Bucs' D was lights out.
                                                                        Winners see success and want to climb up to its level. Losers see success and want to drag it down to their own.

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                                                                        • #37
                                                                          settled
                                                                          Prehistoric

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                                                                          • #38
                                                                            Pass Interference should be a stat outside of penalties. That pass in the end zone was halfway to Georgia and not catchable but it got called for PI?

                                                                            Patrick Mahomes has worse protection than The Capitol. I assume Mike Pence can still save the Chiefs?

                                                                            Bruce Arians is a genius. He has a staff full of black assistant coaches who will never be hired as head coaches and a QB that will never retire. DYNASTY.

                                                                            Seriously, Bowles should get a second chance. We can only wonder when Leftwich will get his first. Hiring Patriot assistants was never a problem despite them going deep into the postseason all of the time. Alas, this latest round of openings was garbage and you saw the quality of the hires. Timing is everything.

                                                                            Brady, Gronk, Antonio Brown all get a ring. Steelers fans puking blood this morning.
                                                                            Last edited by Rogue219; 02-08-2021, 08:29 AM.
                                                                            It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                                                            • #39
                                                                              Originally posted by IrishLax View Post
                                                                              Andy Reid is an idiot. It makes literally no sense to be calling timeouts there. What on earth are you doing.
                                                                              Cost me $200 on my super bowl squares...I'm still hot over it.

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                                                                              • #40
                                                                                I still wont call Brady the GOAT. He is great but also probably the luckiest QB ever. 17 of his 20 seasons hes had a top 10 defense to support him. His last 2 superbowls his team has given up a total of 12 points. in his last 3 superbowl wins his team has given up 19 points in its last 11 quarters. dont forget Seattle throwing that pick at the goalline to win it that year and NE slowing the geatest show on turf for #1.

                                                                                Bucs D or KC offensive line was the real MVP for the Bucs yesterday.

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                                                                                • #41
                                                                                  The whole GOAT thing is column inches and podcast fodder. I don't really give a shit about these discussions anymore, to be honest. Today's game benefits offense more than ever before, and this guy actually had a rule created because of an injury he once sustained. I would still have Rodgers and Manning at the top of the list with him when it comes to individual greatness, as championships are a team accomplishment.

                                                                                  Brady seems to have a lot of Michael Jordan type of qualities. He demands a lot of those around him to the point that he comes off as an asshole. I can't get past the Michigan thing, either, if I'm being honest. Not to mention I'm a Steeler fan in addition to an ND fan. I've never had a reason to like him on the field, and off of it I don't consider him someone I like either.

                                                                                  I will never forget the Super Bowls that were gifted to him from Poodle and the Falcons. Then you have the spying stuff and deflated footballs surrounding his career. He carries water for Antonio Brown, and AB went out of his way last week to make himself a victim when the reality is his "haters" have nothing to do with all of the things he brought on himself.

                                                                                  He is going to be remembered as the guy who won 7 Super Bowls (and counting) until someone can equal that or do better. Mahomes has a great shot at being that guy, but he needs serious help on the OL to get that done, something Brady seemed to always have.
                                                                                  It is no coincidence that the growth of modern tyrants has in every case been heralded by the growth of prejudice.

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                                                                                  • #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post
                                                                                    I still wont call Brady the GOAT. He is great but also probably the luckiest QB ever. 17 of his 20 seasons hes had a top 10 defense to support him. His last 2 superbowls his team has given up a total of 12 points. in his last 3 superbowl wins his team has given up 19 points in its last 11 quarters. dont forget Seattle throwing that pick at the goalline to win it that year and NE slowing the geatest show on turf for #1.

                                                                                    Bucs D or KC offensive line was the real MVP for the Bucs yesterday.
                                                                                    Easy to critique someone with a huge sample size. He had one of the statistical best 1Hs in super bowl history last night. He is the GOAT and itís not particularly close

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                                                                                    • #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post
                                                                                      I still wont call Brady the GOAT. He is great but also probably the luckiest QB ever. 17 of his 20 seasons hes had a top 10 defense to support him. His last 2 superbowls his team has given up a total of 12 points. in his last 3 superbowl wins his team has given up 19 points in its last 11 quarters. dont forget Seattle throwing that pick at the goalline to win it that year and NE slowing the geatest show on turf for #1.

                                                                                      Bucs D or KC offensive line was the real MVP for the Bucs yesterday.
                                                                                      Who is the GOAT at the quarterback position, just curious.
                                                                                      "The problem with having a sense of humor is often that people you use it on aren't in a very good mood." - Lou Holtz

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                                                                                      • #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by NDRock View Post
                                                                                        Who is the GOAT at the quarterback position, just curious.
                                                                                        Trent Dilfer

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                                                                                        • #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by TNUtoNotreDame View Post
                                                                                          Trent Dilfer
                                                                                          Ha. As a Bucs fan, I will always appreciate the way he acted after being benched for Shaun King. Was the consummate professional and seemed to really try to help King. Never talked bad about the staff or organization. Was glad when he won with the Ravens.
                                                                                          "The problem with having a sense of humor is often that people you use it on aren't in a very good mood." - Lou Holtz

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                                                                                          • #46
                                                                                            What Brady has done is ridiculous. It’s foolish to minimize that due to having a good defense too. I’m not a fan of his, but to deny his greatness is intellectually dishonest. I didn’t want to put him over Montana for a long time, but he’s accomplished so much more. He’s almost singularly responsible for turning one team from a SB favorite year in year out into a middle of the road team. Then he takes a young, skilled team that underperforms and makes them a SB champion. I realize there are other factors, but he is the main reason.

                                                                                            He’s easily the best ever at the most important position in team sports. I get that some won’t like him because of who he may support politically or personally. Also, some don’t like his past or whatever (deflate gate, Michigan alum, straw man chip on shoulder nonsense), but come on. He’s soooo good.

                                                                                            I think it’s pretty early to say Mahomes is “on his way” or “has a really good chance” to catch him is a reach right now. He’s 1-1 at this point, but he has an aging HC that isn’t a picture of health. He has a lot of very good skill talent right now to play with. Let’s see how he does if Kelce or Tyreek sign elsewhere or miss a year with an injury. The Chiefs are amazing, but they’ve been pretty lucky with health (not including the OL stuff recently, but we see what happened there last night). Their best players miss a game here or there, but no sustained absence from the better players. Mahomes has tons of talent and is very easy to like, but I’m not ready to say he’ll challenge Brady (at least in terms of SB appearances/wins). No QB ever has come close and I’d bet none ever will.

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                                                                                            • #47
                                                                                              <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is one of the worst stories I’ve ever read. Based on public details seems likely Andy’s son goes (back) to jail? Saddest detail is the child wasn’t even in the car that broke down, but in the second car with family that came to help. Britt Reid crashed into both parked cars <a href="https://t.co/r9MpkPi0rb">https://t.co/r9MpkPi0rb</a></p>&mdash; Chris B. Brown (@smartfootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/smartfootball/status/1358892712808824833?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                                                                                              What did Davonte do?

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                                                                                              • #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Dale View Post
                                                                                                Easy to critique someone with a huge sample size. He had one of the statistical best 1Hs in super bowl history last night. He is the GOAT and itís not particularly close
                                                                                                Originally posted by NDRock View Post
                                                                                                Who is the GOAT at the quarterback position, just curious.
                                                                                                You need two things to win a SuperBowl.

                                                                                                A top 10 Defense and a Great QB. Sometimes there are exceptions like Trent Dilfer or Nick Foles. There are exceptions to every rule but Tom Brady has never won a ring without a top10 defense.

                                                                                                2020 - Tampa Bay #7 Defense - Tom Brady
                                                                                                2019 - Kansas City #10 Defense - Pat Mahommes
                                                                                                2018 - Patriots #6 Defense - Brady
                                                                                                2017 - Philly #4 Defense - Wentz/Foles
                                                                                                2016 - Patriots #1 Defense - Brady
                                                                                                2015 - Denver #4 Defense - Manning
                                                                                                2014 - Patriots #7 Defense - Brady
                                                                                                2013 - Seattle #1 Defense - Wilson
                                                                                                2012 - Ravens #4 Defense - Flacco
                                                                                                2011 - Giants #21 Defense - EManning
                                                                                                2010 - Green Bay #1 Defense - Rodgers
                                                                                                2009 - Saints #18 Defense - Brees
                                                                                                2008 - Steelers #2 Def - Big Ben
                                                                                                2007 - Giants #14 Def - EManning
                                                                                                2006 - Colts #18 Defense - PManning
                                                                                                2005 - Steelers #3 Def - Big Ben
                                                                                                2004 - Patriots #2 Defense - Brady
                                                                                                2003 - Patriots Patriots #1 Defense - Brady
                                                                                                2002 - Tampa Bay #1 Defense - Johnson
                                                                                                2001 - Patriots #6 - Brady

                                                                                                Defensive Facts:
                                                                                                Tom Brady has played 20 seasons. 17 of those with a top 10 defense. 10 SuperBowls - 7 Wins.
                                                                                                Peyton Manning played 14 seasons. 6 of those with a top 10 defense. 4 SuperBowls - 2 Wins.
                                                                                                Tom Brady has had more Top 10 defenses in his 20 seasons than Manning, Brees, and Rodgers combined in 47 seasons combined seasons.


                                                                                                Tom Brady is great and is in the discussion but counting rings you have to account for what Tom has had that others have not.

                                                                                                In the last 3 superbowl wins for Tom Brady, his defense has allowed 19 points in their last 11 quarters.

                                                                                                Can we really sit here and say if Peyton had a top 10 defense 85% of the time he does not win 7? I say he does easily. Give Brees and Rodgers the same and they might.

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                                                                                                • #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Blazers46 View Post
                                                                                                  I say he does easily.
                                                                                                  Címon? Something that only one person has done would be done easily by someone else?

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                                                                                                  • #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Dale View Post
                                                                                                    Címon? Something that only one person has done would be done easily by someone else?
                                                                                                    In those same conditions why not? I think people really under estimate what a Top10 defense does for a team that already has a great QB. 49ers and Cowboys of the 90s are a perfect example. The headline for both was the great offenses but they both had top10 defenses pretty much every year in the 90s.

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