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  • Originally posted by Cackalacky2.0 View Post
    Whenever I see a product claim its 99.99% effective at killing germs and bacteria, I cant help but think every single time.... what's that other 0.01 percent doing and how did it survive? It has an exponential growth rate and basically since it didn't die, this indicates its dna is capable of resisting that cleaning solution and able to go again as I assume the surface was saturated with the solution in testing situations.

    Needless to say public bathrooms are a nightmare for me and contact time is a huge item of discussion in my house while cleaning :).
    Agreed, it's been some time since I read an article on the subject, but the basic conclusion is that it doesn't take very long for the "cleaned" surface, to be consumed with germs and bacteria again as the ..01 to replicate
    Last edited by ab2cmiller; 02-09-2021, 10:44 AM.

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    • Coronavirus Variants and Mutations (NY Times)

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      • Since the last post in this thread on Feb 9th, the 7 day average for cases in the US was 109K. Today, 9 days later, the 7 day average is 79,112. On January 12th, the 7 day average was 254K.

        Hospitalizations Feb 9th were 79,179. Today, they are 63,398. On January 6th, they were over 132K.

        I think the variant craze is overblown because the US clearly has enough natural immunity at this point. Throw in the vaccine. A mostly normal summer is looking good.

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        • Originally posted by notredomer23 View Post
          Since the last post in this thread on Feb 9th, the 7 day average for cases in the US was 109K. Today, 9 days later, the 7 day average is 79,112. On January 12th, the 7 day average was 254K.

          Hospitalizations Feb 9th were 79,179. Today, they are 63,398. On January 6th, they were over 132K.

          I think the variant craze is overblown because the US clearly has enough natural immunity at this point. Throw in the vaccine. A mostly normal summer is looking good.
          Agreed wholeheartedly. Taking vaccine hesitancy into account and looking at vaccination rates, every American who wants to be vaccinated will almost surely have had that opportunity by June at the latest.

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          • Looks like attending a football game had little to know effect on spreading COVID. Could this mean stadiums at 50 - 100% capacity this coming season?

            https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....15.21251745v1

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            • [TWITTER]https://twitter.com/JuliaLMarcus/status/1363857538274443264[/TWITTER]

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              • Originally posted by notredomer23 View Post
                [TWITTER]https://twitter.com/JuliaLMarcus/status/1363857538274443264[/TWITTER]
                Well maybe she should talk to that dumb old fuck Fauci. He is like Biden can’t remember what he says from day to day.
                Brotherhood may fade, but it will never run

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                • Originally posted by Irish#1 View Post
                  Looks like attending a football game had little to know effect on spreading COVID. Could this mean stadiums at 50 - 100% capacity this coming season?

                  https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....15.21251745v1
                  I we aren't at 100% return to normal by the fall that will be a joke. By June, virtually everyone who wants a vaccine should've been able to get one. It's impractical and illogical to continue any restrictions past that point.

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                  • Just found out person #3 (he is a Partner of the firm) in my department has it. He has MS and isnt doing well at all. Ive been tested 4 times and negative for all somehow miraculously.
                    "From Chaos comes Clarity"

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                    • Kary Mullis invented the PCR, these are his thoughts on Fauci. Basically calls him an idiot and a liar with a personal agenda. Shocking right. LOL Oh by the way he died in August of 2019, so his thoughts were even prior to COVID.

                      Fauci has admitted to lying about multiple items related to COVID, whether it be masks or herd immunity goal posts. His rationale is that it's OK to lie to the American public if it gets people to respond in the way that you want them to. At this point, I don't know how anyone knows if what Fauci is saying is truth or an "honorable" lie.


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                      • Originally posted by Cackalacky2.0 View Post
                        Just found out person #3 (he is a Partner of the firm) in my department has it. He has MS and isnt doing well at all. Ive been tested 4 times and negative for all somehow miraculously.
                        WTF is a partner at some firm doing any in person work with MS? Anyone with MS should be isolating - as a partner he should have the financial wherewithal to "survive" easier than any out of work cook or waiter. I am all for this partner making that decision on their own but EVERYONE has dramatically compromised their personal liberties for a full year to supposedly help protect exactly this person. Isolate the vulnerable and everyone else get back to work should have been the stance from day one.

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                        • Originally posted by IrishLax View Post

                          I we aren't at 100% return to normal by the fall that will be a joke. By June, virtually everyone who wants a vaccine should've been able to get one. It's impractical and illogical to continue any restrictions past that point.
                          One of two things going on either A) they are moving the goal posts to 2022 so they can be heros when we are back to normal this summer or B) They like the power and will perpetrate this fiasco for as long as they possibly can with redirection to variants or need to apply to every flu season.

                          Either way, its about as good and unifying as any Biden joke.

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                          • Originally posted by ab2cmiller View Post
                            Kary Mullis invented the PCR, these are his thoughts on Fauci. Basically calls him an idiot and a liar with a personal agenda. Shocking right. LOL Oh by the way he died in August of 2019, so his thoughts were even prior to COVID.

                            Fauci has admitted to lying about multiple items related to COVID, whether it be masks or herd immunity goal posts. His rationale is that it's OK to lie to the American public if it gets people to respond in the way that you want them to. At this point, I don't know how anyone knows if what Fauci is saying is truth or an "honorable" lie.


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                            Brotherhood may fade, but it will never run

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                            • I am struggling to see how this isn't all but over by end of the April.

                              If Pfizer and Moderna will have delivered 220MM doses and JnJ an additional 20MM doses by the of March, you're talking about half adult population with a level of inoculated immunity. That's not counting a huge portion of the population with natural immunity.

                              April should be our first really good month as a country. Almost all seniors/at risk should be fully vaccinated by the end. Daily deaths will likely be in the low hundreds by the end. Seasonality should help be the finishing blow to the pandemic. I suspect some governors will milk social distancing restrictions as long as possible, but they won't be able to really past the end of May.

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                              • Originally posted by RDU Irish View Post

                                WTF is a partner at some firm doing any in person work with MS? Anyone with MS should be isolating - as a partner he should have the financial wherewithal to "survive" easier than any out of work cook or waiter. I am all for this partner making that decision on their own but EVERYONE has dramatically compromised their personal liberties for a full year to supposedly help protect exactly this person. Isolate the vulnerable and everyone else get back to work should have been the stance from day one.
                                Welcome to my world. One of the guys who first got sick and sent everyone into quarantine is now back at the office and not wearing a mask. He is saying since he got it and got over it he isnt a risk anymore and isnt wearing his masks.
                                "From Chaos comes Clarity"

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