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jason_h537
05-06-2009, 02:56 PM
Running Back
Newbury Park (CA) Newbury Park

Ht: 6-1
Wt: 215
Forty: 4.55
Bench: 255
Squat: 380
Vertical: 33
GPA: 3.4

Stats
'08 1452 yds, 18 TD

Ranking
Rivals: :s::s::s::s:, #14 RB, Rating 5.8
ESPN: :s::s::s:, #39 RB, Grade 77
Scout: :s::s::s:, #2 FB

Offers
Notre Dame (OV 9/05)
Arizona
BYU
Minnesota
Northwestern
Utah
Washington
Wyoming

ND Recruiter: Polian

Decision: Notre Dame 9/7/09

jason_h537
05-06-2009, 02:59 PM
Surprised no one has opened a thread for this kid yet. Granpa went to Notre Dame. Big physical back with good speed. Ranked 199 on Rivals 250

jason_h537
05-13-2009, 11:03 PM
Got visited by Polian today. This kid loves Notre Dame.. His top five are Washington, Northwestern, Arizona, BYU, and Notre Dame. The big key is that Notre Dame is the only school who has yet to offer.

irish4ever
06-17-2009, 07:59 AM
Good speed, not great. Looks to be a plan 'B' recruit for the Irish, huh?

Stalking_Eagle
06-17-2009, 12:40 PM
FB?

BGIF
06-17-2009, 01:27 PM
FB?

Maybe, but I don't think so.

ND has offers at FB to:
Zwinak (who I don't think is interested)
Hayes Pullard ATH LB/FB 6-2 220 4.5, who is "intrigued" apparently the others are recruiting him at LB.

ND has RB offers out to:
Bernard (ND should get an Official)
James (ND to get Official)
Jones (Rivals #3 RB, ND in the game)
Hill (a Joey Getherall type, Slot Back not RB)
Barr (wants RB but coaches see him, 6-4 230, eating his way to Defense DE/LB)
Lattimore (no interest)
Dyer (BGI just dropped him from their Master List)
Miller (little or no interest)

Whittling through that list leaves James and Bernard as the most viable RB candidates. Robinson looks like #3 on that list should he get an offer.

If Weis actually used the FB in his offense I'd love to see Barr there. I'm thinking "The Bus"!

jason_h537
06-17-2009, 01:49 PM
James is the only real RB candidate in this list. Weis does want to use a fullback, remember Powers-Neal. Unfortunately Schwaap just didnt have the skill set for Weis to use. If we do get a athletric FB you will see another weapon on the field. Roberson is a plan b guy for ND, but don't be fooled, he is a hell of a player.

BGIF
06-17-2009, 02:04 PM
... Weis does want to use a fullback, remember Powers-Neal.

Does Weis really want to use a fullback?

I remember Powers-Neal and I remember his being used inside the 5 on the goal line offense. Do you remember seeing him between the 20's? How many times?

... Unfortunately Schwaap just didnt have the skill set for Weis to use. If we do get a athletric FB you will see another weapon on the field. ...

No Schwaap didn't (particularly after the injury) but Weis has been here for 4 seasons and 5 recruiting classes. Shouldn't he have recognized Schwapp's limitations and more importantly after the injury shouldn't he have recruited a replacement.

FB is the least important position in a Weis offense.

jason_h537
06-17-2009, 02:10 PM
I didnt say it was. Im saying if he had a good athletic fullback, he would use him. Thats another redzone threat, that he has used.

BGIF
06-17-2009, 02:25 PM
I didnt say it was. Im saying if he had a good athletic fullback, he would use him. Thats another redzone threat, that he has used.

No, not a red zone threat. A goal line threat. That reduces the number of touches considerably.

So how is Charlie supposed to get "a good athletic fullback", when he hasn't in 5 classes? Tell him, he's going to "pound the ball" next year. That line has no credibiillty with Charlie, does it?

Think about this. You're a talented HS FB like Zwinak, you can come to ND and be a goal line specialist or you can go to dozens of other schools and get a couple 100 carries a season. Small wonder for 5 years they chosen to go elsewhere.

jason_h537
06-17-2009, 02:27 PM
thatsbecause we dont lie to players like Pullard and say your gonna play LB only to move them once on campus. There's a reason Weis keeps trying toget a FB each recruiting class, thats because he has plans to use one. If not he would just lose the position like most schools have already.

BGIF
06-17-2009, 02:48 PM
... There's a reason Weis keeps trying toget a FB each recruiting class, thats because he has plans to use one. ...

A FB every class. Hmmm, I just looked back through some recruiting lists and find almost a complete absence of FB. Instead of glittering generalities how about providing some substance and list all those FBs he recruited.

'09
'08
'07
'06
'05

jason_h537
06-17-2009, 03:00 PM
keeps trying toget a FB each recruiting class

Dont Fox News my quotes.

He got Luke Schmidt in his first true class. Is recruiting Zwinack and Pullard this year.
Not to mention how hardthey weregoing after Tyler Gaffney and Toben Operum last year

BGIF
06-17-2009, 04:21 PM
Dont Fox News my quotes.

It was very Keith Olberman of you to ignore issues and focus on an accusation trying to change the topic. I'm not sure what "Don't Fox News my quotes" means but considering your political bent I'll take it you mean not letting you off the hook when you dodge the question or change the subject to avoid answering. Like when I posted "goal line" offense and you transferred that into "red zone" offense in your response. Or when I asked you about Powers-Neal being notused between the 20's and you dodged that.


He got Luke Schmidt in his first true class.

Schwapp ,a 2 Star FB on Rivals and 88th RB on Scout, was recruited by Tyrone in the Class of '05. 2005 was his first class. He came in late but by HIS own choice he chose to work considerably less than half time to recuit that year. I was always curious why even with a late start Charlie didn't get any RBs in that class particularly as you put Schwapp didn't have the necessary skill set.

Now Schmidt was truly a FB. Not some RB being bulked up nor a LB converting positions. A true FB, Rivals #4.

How come he didn't beat out the guy without the skill set? Particularly after Schwapp's knee injury. Weis with a team deficient at FB took the #4 FB and converted him to TE? Talk about lack of development, wow! It's logic like starting an ineffective Schwapp, that got other FBs to look elsewhere. I'm interested in hearing your perspective on why the guy without the ability to block, or run for even a yard, with a major injury continued to start?

In '07 got Allen and Hughes but did not pursue a FB, did ND? I thought Hughes was a solid FB candidate. Even thought he said he would not play FB, if you saw a video and watched him lower his shoulder or watched him crush a 180 lb HS LB, he had FB written all over him. Then he got to Div I and LB weighs 240 and suddenly he wanted to run for daylight. A power runner that saw himself as a dancing, corner turning TB. Nope he wasn't FB material after all.

I didn't find any FB's recruited in '08, did you?

In '09 Gaffney and Opurum were on the list but not by much.

Is recruiting Zwinack and Pullard this year.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Zwinak doesn't seem interested in ND at all. Why would he if he wants to play FB? and Pullard is the LB every body else is recruiting at LB but ND is trying to intrigue as a FB. sigh.


Not to mention how hardthey weregoing after Tyler Gaffney and Toben Operum last year

Hard or hardly? ND dropped Gaffney, lest we forget, then went back after him against and he chose Stanford, hardly known as "FB U", are they. Meanwhile ND got on Opurum late as an afterthought. He chose KU, another "FB powerhouse", right?




All those names you found in 5 recruiting classes. One signee who he converted to a TE. Thank you for confirming how serious Charlie is about a quality FB in his offense.

Q.E.D.

IHateMarkMay
06-17-2009, 04:34 PM
Maybe, but I don't think so.

ND has offers at FB to:
Zwinak (who I don't think is interested)
Hayes Pullard ATH LB/FB 6-2 220 4.5, who is "intrigued" apparently the others are recruiting him at LB.

ND has RB offers out to:
Bernard (ND should get an Official)
James (ND to get Official)
Hill (a Joey Getherall type, Slot Back not RB)
Barr (wants RB but coaches see him, 6-4 230, eating his way to Defense DE/LB)
Lattimore (no interest)
Dyer (BGI just dropped him from their Master List)
Miller (little or no interest)

Whittling through that list leaves James and Bernard as the most viable RB candidates. Robinson looks like #3 on that list should he get an offer.

If Weis actually used the FB in his offense I'd love to see Barr there. I'm thinking "The Bus"!

What about Malcolm Jones? Should we kiss him goodbye to USC?

Irishlew
06-17-2009, 04:55 PM
Now Schmidt was truly a FB. Not some RB being bulked up nor a LB converting positions. A true FB, Rivals #4.

no he wasn't. He was a HB in H.S and was to be converted to FB when he came to ND. Injuries ruined his career.

2004 (Jr.) 328 carries ~ 2,592 yards ~ 7.9 ypc ~ 41 TD
2005 (sr.) 313 carries ~ 2,239 yards ~ 7.2 ypc ~ 32 TD

was an Indiana Mr Football runner up and Gatorade Player of the Year in Indiana for 2005.

BGIF
06-17-2009, 05:08 PM
What about Malcolm Jones? Should we kiss him goodbye to USC?

No, we shouldn't. I'd love to have him at RB or at OLB. Personally I'm doubtful that he leaves the West Coast be it USC(brother), UCLA, SU OR UW where his teammate Montana just verballed and another teammate OT Kohler (holds an ND offer) is strongly looking. Scout's #3 RB and Rivals #7 ATH (RB/OLB).

I didn't leave him off the list intentionally. I inadvertently deleted him from my recruiting list. I didn't check the services when I put the post together just my list.

Mea culpa. Thanks IHMM for the catch. I've edited the original post below to include Jones.

BGIF
06-17-2009, 05:28 PM
no he wasn't. He was a HB in H.S and was to be converted to FB when he came to ND. Injuries ruined his career.

2004 (Jr.) 328 carries ~ 2,592 yards ~ 7.9 ypc ~ 41 TD
2005 (sr.) 313 carries ~ 2,239 yards ~ 7.2 ypc ~ 32 TD

was an Indiana Mr Football runner up and Gatorade Player of the Year in Indiana for 2005.


I had similar recollections but before posting I checked Rivals and they listed him as the #4 FB.

Rivals.com Prospect Rankings (http://notredame.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1147&Year=2006)

Luke Schmidt Profile - Football Recruiting (http://notredame.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=36506&Sport=1)

Rivals articles sometimes called him a RB sometimes a FB. In June '05 Crabtree noted:

Athlete Luke Schmidt of Jasper, Ind., is the No. 3 player in the state and just like Aldridge he's heading to South Bend. Schmidt could project at a number of positions, but most programs recruited him to play H-back or fullback.

Scout had him as a 4 Star #26 RB but in his Profile also had him listed as a FB.

If I recall correctly Schmidt saw himself as a Mike Alstott type runner, a running FB.

I'm willing to make Schmidt a FB recruit for this discussion.

IrishLew, if you take Schmidt off of Weis's All-Time FB recruiting Lst and jason doesn't want Schwapp on it because he wasn't very good and Weis didn't have a full year to look around, it leaves Charlie with no FB recruits in 5 classes.

Strikes me that either Charlie doesn't put much priority into recruiting FBs or potential FBs don't like the way the role is utilized at ND.

OCIrish
06-17-2009, 09:53 PM
BGIF, I'll do you a favor, Schmidt was never a FB, and was never going to make it as a FB. He played TB in HS, and like Schwapp, never made the conversion to FB @ ND. Look, trying to take TB's and make them bonafide FB's is a tall order. If they never blocked in HS, then they aren't going to know where to look for the LB scraping the hole. I had an argument with a poster over on BGI about the same topic, just different players. He proposed making Hughes a FB, and I told him it would never work. Hughes was a feature back in HS, and when he got to ND, he is still a feature back. We need to recruit a Marc Edwards, or Tom Lopienski, guys who played some FB in HS, who know how to lead block first, and worry about carrying the ball dead last. As for Weis and his ability to recruit FB's, it hasn't panned out for him.

jason_h537
06-17-2009, 11:14 PM
A FB every class.
thats what Fox News my quote means. I said tried to get a FB, You just paraphrased what i said to make my point. The reason Luke Scmidt didnt beat out Schwaap was due tp injury, and was later moved to TE due to our lacking depth. Unfortunately Schmidts injuries no longer aloow him to play. Gaffney was getting recruited hard by Notre Dame, i dont remember us dropping him at all. Operum was a late pick up because the Irish wanted a Fullback, and thought they could possibly get him just in case Gaffney picked Stanford (who promised him he would play TailBack). If Weis had no interest in utilizing a FB he wouldnt bother with any of these guys, and certianly wouldnt have moved Aldridge.

BGIF
06-18-2009, 01:11 AM
thats what Fox News my quote means. I said tried to get a FB, You just paraphrased what i said to make my point. The reason Luke Scmidt didnt beat out Schwaap was due tp injury, and was later moved to TE due to our lacking depth. Unfortunately Schmidts injuries no longer aloow him to play. Gaffney was getting recruited hard by Notre Dame, i dont remember us dropping him at all. Operum was a late pick up because the Irish wanted a Fullback, and thought they could possibly get him just in case Gaffney picked Stanford (who promised him he would play TailBack). If Weis had no interest in utilizing a FB he wouldnt bother with any of these guys, and certianly wouldnt have moved Aldridge.

Here's your quote:
Originally Posted by jason_h537 http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/2010-recruiting-profiles/43409-10-ca-rb-cameron-roberson.html#post291268)
... There's a reason Weis keeps trying toget a FB each recruiting class, thats because he has plans to use one. ...

Pardon my saying every class. Now are you going to tell me to define, "is"?

Please explain how "every class" changes the meaning of your "each class" sentence.

I listed the classes by year in that post and asked you to fill in who he had recruited. You didn't. Instead you posted a couple of names over a 5 year period. That isn't each recruiting class now is it.

I did go back and look year by year. Weis did not try to get a FB in each recruiting class.

Irishlew and OCIrish even whittled down the list I came up with. See their comments. Are we all wrong?

I'm aware Schmidt's career was terminated by head injuries. I'm also aware Schwapp had a season ending knee injury and qualified for 5th year due to that injury. Think about that faced with the only two scholarship players at FB, both with injury problems why didn't Weis recruit that position more aggressively?

And yes, ND did drop Gaffney. Polian did it because he felt Gaffney would not play FB. They went back after him after an interview appeared in which Gaffney said he perferred TB but was willing to consider FB. Go pull up his profile. The intro is still there. Whether or not your aware of it, it happened as did the rest of the details documented in my posts.

ND has had no goal line offense for several years. ND has had no short run offense for several years. Weis my be planning to use a FB but he is not using a FB.

jason_h537
06-18-2009, 01:21 AM
see, you did it again. I said TRYING to get a fb each class.

A FB every class. Hmmm, I just looked back through some recruiting lists and find almost a complete absence of FB. Instead of glittering generalities how about providing some substance and list all those FBs he recruited.


I didnt say they got a FB each class, i said TRIED. Weis has TRIED to recruit a solid athletic FB. They TRIED and succeeded in his first true class (By that i mean a class recruited entirely by Weis and his staff, not started by Ty and finished by Weis in 05). Is TRYING this year. TRIED last year.

jason_h537
06-18-2009, 01:32 AM
BGIF, I'll do you a favor, Schmidt was never a FB, and was never going to make it as a FB. He played TB in HS, and like Schwapp, never made the conversion to FB @ ND. Look, trying to take TB's and make them bonafide FB's is a tall order. If they never blocked in HS, then they aren't going to know where to look for the LB scraping the hole. I had an argument with a poster over on BGI about the same topic, just different players. He proposed making Hughes a FB, and I told him it would never work. Hughes was a feature back in HS, and when he got to ND, he is still a feature back. We need to recruit a Marc Edwards, or Tom Lopienski, guys who played some FB in HS, who know how to lead block first, and worry about carrying the ball dead last. As for Weis and his ability to recruit FB's, it hasn't panned out for him.

Yeah but when recruiting a FB you only have three options.
1) recruit a true FB. How many HS teamd use FB's any more, and of those still out there howmany can play at the d1 level
2) Convert a TB. You have already stated the problems with that
3) Recruit an athlete and convert him to FB. Most athletes can play several positions that are more glorious than FB.

The sad truth is the Marc Edwards of the worlds are few and far between now a days

Mjrosko
06-18-2009, 03:10 PM
Does Weis really want to use a fullback?

I remember Powers-Neal and I remember his being used inside the 5 on the goal line offense. Do you remember seeing him between the 20's? How many times?
.

Wrong. Weis would use a fullback if he had a capable one. I went back and looked at the play by play of the Pittsburgh, Michigan, Washington and Purdue games from 2005. Here's the ones I recorded.

Pittsburgh game. Touches from the: 19, 2, Own 41 (catch), 18, 9, Own 36 , 25, 23 and 4.

Michigan game. Touches from the: 5, Own 5 (catch), Own 14, Own 19, Own 20, 35 and 31.

Washington game. Touches from the: Own 27 ,50, 7, Own 20, Own 34, 24, 31, 2, 26, 19, 12, 11.

Purdue game. Touches from the: 1, Own 46 (catch), 1, 1, 1, 33, 11, Own 20 (catch), 39, 25.

He is used so much more extensively then 'just inside the 20s'. He is used so much more than just as a goal line back.

If Weis had an athletic fullback like RPN, he would be used!

Polish Leppy 22
06-18-2009, 03:43 PM
If I were Cameron Roberson or one of his parents reading this thread I'd be disgusted. Sounds like 2 5th graders bickering over who has the cooler gym shoes. Get back to the kid

BGIF
06-18-2009, 07:01 PM
Wrong. Weis would use a fullback if he had a capable one. I went back and looked at the play by play of the Pittsburgh, Michigan, Washington and Purdue games from 2005. Here's the ones I recorded.

Pittsburgh game. Touches from the: 19, 2, Own 41 (catch), 18, 9, Own 36 , 25, 23 and 4.

Michigan game. Touches from the: 5, Own 5 (catch), Own 14, Own 19, Own 20, 35 and 31.

Washington game. Touches from the: Own 27 ,50, 7, Own 20, Own 34, 24, 31, 2, 26, 19, 12, 11.

Purdue game. Touches from the: 1, Own 46 (catch), 1, 1, 1, 33, 11, Own 20 (catch), 39, 25.

He is used so much more extensively then 'just inside the 20s'. He is used so much more than just as a goal line back.

If Weis had an athletic fullback like RPN, he would be used!

Thanks for the research. Reps.

Now why hasn't Weis gotten an athletic FB like RPN in 5 tries?

BGIF
06-18-2009, 08:01 PM
If I were Cameron Roberson or one of his parents reading this thread I'd be disgusted. Sounds like 2 5th graders bickering over who has the cooler gym shoes. Get back to the kid

I have no doubt if Cameron Roberson or his parents were reading this thread they'd have the reading skills to comprehend the discussion wasn't about a recruit.The discussion was about RB recruits and evolved into how the FB is utilized or not in the current ND offense. And further about ND's success or lack of success in recruiting FBs.

If I were Cameron Roberson and realizing that I don't have an offer yet AND if I really wanted to come to ND I'd be trying to figure out how I could make myself valuable to the team. Is there a need I can fill. Does ND need an RB, or do they need a FB, or both? Where do I fit? How do they see me in the offense?

If I didn't have the '05 games like Mjrosko has to look at (BGIF's '05 games were on the DVR that died two weeks ago) all I might know about a Weis FB would be seeing Schwapp the 3 seasons if I was watching an ND game. As I'm a California kid I probably wasn't but might have caught the USC ND games which made me wonder if there was an running game anymore. (This kid's starting to sound like a perceptive ND fan, isn't he?). My coach got the rushing game stats from the ND website archives. Wow, the FB gets about 6 carries a year. I'm not sure I want to go somewhere to be the 6th linemen on the field. I don't mind blocking. Actually I like to blitz the blitzers. They never know what it them until see the game tape. I've got great hands. I run crisp routes. I can carry the rock on 1st and 10 or 4th and 1. Or I can suck the LB out of position on a fake so the ball carrier scores.

You coach Weis, I'm the same height weight and speed as James Aldridge when he signed with ND. And Thank GOd I've still got two injury free knees. To you plan on converting me to a FB like you've just done with him or will I be a RB?

You know Coach I saw Jerome Bettis play in the NFL and I understand he was an outstanding all around FB when he played at ND. Will you utilize me like Bettis at ND or like Schwapp?

I hope you understand my concerns Coach, I don't care what colors the gym shoes are here. I do care that they fit. They have to, for the 4 years.

-30-


Leppy, I have no doubt that jason has cooler gym shoes than I do. Mine are like Ara's. But as he and I enjoy discussing the varied aspects of the football and the differences as we see them, we'll leave the footwear evaluations to you. And if you have any information on Cameron or any other recruit why don't you share it?

jason_h537
06-18-2009, 10:45 PM
I rock chucks

WabashFalcon
06-19-2009, 06:03 AM
Here's to you Mr. Roberson...

BGIF
06-19-2009, 12:48 PM
Here's To You, Mr. Roberson©
©Lyrics by BGIF inpired by the WabashMuse


And here's to you, Mr. Roberson
Jesus mom loves you more than you will know (Wo, wo, wo)
God bless you please, Mr. Roberson
South Bend holds a place for those who play
(Hall of Fame ... hey, hey, hey)

We'd like to know a little bit about you for our files
We'd like to help you learn to help yourself
Look around you, all you see are sympathetic eyes
Stroll around the campus 'til you feel at home

And here's to you, Mr. Roberson
Jesus mom loves you more than you will know (Wo, wo, wo)
God bless you please, Mr. Roberson
South Bend holds a place for those who play
(Hall of Fame ... hey, hey, hey)

Hide it in a hiding place where no one ever goes
Does he carry the rock or throw a block
It's a little secret, just the Robersons' affair
Most of all, you've got to hide it from the fans

Coo, coo, ca-choo, Mr Roberson
Jesus mom loves you more than you will know (Wo, wo, wo)
God bless you please, Mr. Roberson
South Bend holds a place for those who play
(Hall Of Fame ... hey, hey, hey)

Sitting on a sofa on a LaFortune afternoon
Going to the Monologues debate
Laugh about it, shout about it
When you've got to choose
USC or BYU, you lose

Where have you gone, Brady Quinn
A nation turns its lonely eyes to you (Woo, woo, woo)
What's that you say, Mr. Roberson
Mighty Quinn has left and gone away
(Hall of Fame ... hey, hey, hey)

jason_h537
06-19-2009, 10:55 PM
How bored were you?

BGIF
06-20-2009, 12:13 AM
I rock chucks

I wore Cons.

NeuteredDoomer
06-20-2009, 12:22 AM
Here's To You, Mr. Roberson©
©Lyrics by BGIF inpired by the WabashMuse


And here's to you, Mr. Roberson
Jesus mom loves you more than you will know (Wo, wo, wo)


Friggen lol

NDinL.A.
07-01-2009, 07:25 PM
OFFERED!!! Per ISD, and says his top 4 are now ND, AZ, Northwestern, and Washington, and they're all even. His granddaddy was one of the first African-Americans to graduate from ND. He's a big back that CW says he needs for his offense, but Roberson wants to talk to Weis more to see how he'll be used...

EDIT: Jason, can you fix the front to show that he was offered? Thanks...

jason_h537
07-01-2009, 07:39 PM
Great news, could be lookin at our next commit if he like what Weis tells him.

I can't change the thread title

BGIF
07-01-2009, 07:54 PM
...

EDIT: Jason, can you fix the front to show that he was offered? Thanks...

I believe Steve can do that. He's changed a couple that I pmed him about.

BGIF
07-01-2009, 08:09 PM
OFFERED!!! ... He's a big back that CW says he needs for his offense, but Roberson wants to talk to Weis more to see how he'll be used ...

I'll bet he read this thread. Smart young man.


Hide it in a hiding place where no one ever goes
Does he carry the rock or throw a block
It's a little secret, just the Robersons' affair
Most of all, you've got to hide it from the fans

Coo, coo, ca-choo, Mr Roberson
Jesus mom loves you more than you will know (Wo, wo, wo)
God bless you please, Mr. Roberson
South Bend holds a place for those who play
(Hall Of Fame ... hey, hey, hey)

The Polish Irishman
07-01-2009, 08:22 PM
Did we offer him as a RB or a FB?

jason_h537
07-01-2009, 08:27 PM
I'm assuming that's what the talk with Weis will be about

WabashFalcon
07-02-2009, 03:16 AM
Dude... let's make him the first Fullingback ever. Lines up between where the FB and RB would line up. Would confuse the hell out of everyone.


It's 3:15 in the morning. Do not judge my crappy post because of that.

BillyIrish
07-02-2009, 09:23 AM
Dude... let's make him the first Fullingback ever. Lines up between where the FB and RB would line up. Would confuse the hell out of everyone.


Just the thought of a Weis fullingback screen package gets me all giddy inside!!

NDinL.A.
08-06-2009, 07:59 PM
Thinking about a visit for the Nevada game...

wicket
08-10-2009, 08:06 AM
just a question, where did you find that about the visit cuz i cant find it

NDinL.A.
08-10-2009, 11:44 AM
I thought for sure it was a done deal when I wrote it, but apparently it's not because I can't find where I read it. Information overload with these practices and interviews!

I know a coach who is friends with one of Roberson's high school coaches. They were talking about him visiting for the Nevada game awhile back, but that wasn't set in stone so i didn't say anything. Then I swear I read yesterday that he had set it up for the Nevada game, so I put it down. Now that you asked me about it, I can't find where I read it. But ISD reported that he is thinking about visiting for the Nevada game. So I edited the original post. Thanks Wicket...

wicket
08-10-2009, 03:14 PM
dont worry i just wanted to know where it came from, im already happy that he plans on coming over and even better NOT for the usc game, we are getting way to many recruits coming to that game

Brown
09-07-2009, 08:26 PM
Roberson committed today! Loved his visit.

Rivals.com: 4 star
scout.com: 3 star
espnu: 3 star

vinnymac2402
09-07-2009, 08:28 PM
yup just say it on rivals
any thing on parker yet

NDinL.A.
09-07-2009, 08:32 PM
Yeah boy!!!

irishandy
09-07-2009, 08:45 PM
Haven't really heard anything about this kid is he any good?? Who do you think gives us a verbal after this week's game??

IrishAddiction
09-07-2009, 09:58 PM
Welcome to the ND family Cameron.

NDinL.A.
09-07-2009, 10:11 PM
Haven't really heard anything about this kid is he any good?? Who do you think gives us a verbal after this week's game??

Roberson is a 4 star on Rivals, 3 star everywhere else. So of course I think Rivals is right! But seriously, he's listed as a RB but he'll be used here as FB, hopefully the way USC uses Havili. He can definitely play. HOw good, well, you never know until they get to campus in the summer (look at Theo Riddick). Cameron had concerns about being purely a blocking FB, but after talking to Weis about what his role would be and watching how we used Aldridge, his fears were put to rest. He's more of a power runner who can play fullback, but has good feet and catch the ball out of the backfield. As for people being concerned that we are out of the running for other running backs like Jordan James and Bio Bernard, that is not the case at all. By all indications, ND will take 2 RB's if they choose to commit.

After next week's game I highly doubt you'll see any commitments, considering we'll be playing on the road and no recruits will be in town...

Junkhead
09-07-2009, 10:18 PM
Wow, How did I miss this? The ball will be rolling as the wins keep coming.

jason_h537
09-07-2009, 10:37 PM
WHOOOOO. I knew this kid would be Irish. Love seeing more Cali kids committing. Kid will be a serious threat at fullback. Good speed for someone his size. Says his mom started crying when he got the offer. Since the it was only a matter of time.

WabashFalcon
09-08-2009, 01:11 AM
Finally. God.... I thought we were never gonna pick up another commit.

BGIF
09-08-2009, 05:09 AM
Fills a need.

IHateMarkMay
09-08-2009, 08:32 AM
Finally. God.... I thought we were never gonna pick up another commit.

Tell me about it, I hate the recruiting lull before the actual season starts.

Mavericknyc1980
09-08-2009, 11:17 PM
THis is another great commit. A lot more gooing to commit as the Irish continue to win.

jason_h537
09-25-2009, 11:18 PM
Great Story on Roberson in the LA Daily News. Discusses his family, education and why he chose ND. Good read

UPON FURTHER REVIEW: Newbury Park's Roberson has successful run -- on the field and in the classroom - LA Daily News (http://www.dailynews.com/search/ci_13372705?IADID=Search-www.dailynews.com-www.dailynews.com)

Rizzophil
09-26-2009, 09:09 AM
Anyone know how his season is going so far?

IHateMarkMay
09-26-2009, 09:17 AM
This past friday he had 3 TDs and 183 yards on 26 rushes.

Last week it looks like he ran for 123 yards on 18 carries.

I think they might have only played two games thus far. As far as I can find.

Rizzophil
09-26-2009, 10:41 AM
This past friday he had 3 TDs and 183 yards on 26 rushes.

Last week it looks like he ran for 123 yards on 18 carries.

I think they might have only played two games thus far. As far as I can find.

Thanks. Good stats.

jason_h537
10-21-2009, 02:08 AM
This is one of my favorite guys in this class and has been having a great senior year so far.

226 carries
1452 yards
6.5 yards a carry
18 TD's

Cant wait to see how Weis uses him.

DoverShores
10-21-2009, 02:36 AM
I was really glad we were able to get a bigger back this year after signing Riddick n Wood last year.

jason_h537
10-21-2009, 04:34 AM
Welcome aboard Dover

DoverShores
10-21-2009, 02:41 PM
thnx, just made I didnt find this board sooner

TerryTate
01-05-2010, 11:14 AM
Any chance he could play OLB? Shembo is 6'2 225; Roberson is 6'1 215 with a 4.48 40. He'd be lightning off the edges. Scout is projecting him as a FB, and that seems like a waste. I think we are pretty deep at RB next season (Allen, Hughes, Gray, Riddick, Wood) with Bernard coming in hopefully. If he's used like Hughes was last season, he could turn out to be a solid RB.

Rizzophil
01-05-2010, 11:39 AM
Whew...I got nervous when I saw a new post. I thought he would be another one wavering...

GOLDENISTHYTATE
01-05-2010, 03:13 PM
haha as did I Rizzo. Roberson really i the power back we have been missing. He would be getting so much more attention this year if it was not for the fact that Cali had a ridiculous amount of amazing RBs coming out. Baxter, J.James, Cooper, Morgan, Clay, barr, and M. Jones are all top rbs in the country that call Cali home. This kid is a steal!

Big23Head
01-08-2010, 10:07 AM
ISD, he is solid

Flanigan44
01-08-2010, 10:42 AM
Any chance he could play OLB? Shembo is 6'2 225; Roberson is 6'1 215 with a 4.48 40. He'd be lightning off the edges. Scout is projecting him as a FB, and that seems like a waste. I think we are pretty deep at RB next season (Allen, Hughes, Gray, Riddick, Wood) with Bernard coming in hopefully. If he's used like Hughes was last season, he could turn out to be a solid RB.

Next season probably doesn't matter bc the kid probably won't be playing anyway, and next year we are loaded at OLB too (though safety is as thin as it gets). But it sounds like Kelly is the type to make moves like the one you suggest. If you read his quotes on recruiting from one of his follow up interviews, he says he looks at 3 kinds of players when he recruits - skill (QB, WR, CB), bigs (OL,DL), and big/skills (RB, LB, S) (I'm paraphrasing here and I inserted the positions that go into each group - he did not actually say which positions go into each group). Roberson would fall into the big/skills group, and it sounds to me like Kelly will play any kid in that group where ever he is (1) needed or (2) Kelly thinks he can play at a high level. So if Roberson gets on campus, Kelly sees that he's just an incredible athlete who has the football instincts to play anywhere, and there is a hole in the depth chart 1-2 years out at a position other than RB/FB, he may very well switch the kid.

neoroks32
01-08-2010, 09:47 PM
Next season probably doesn't matter bc the kid probably won't be playing anyway, and next year we are loaded at OLB too (though safety is as thin as it gets). But it sounds like Kelly is the type to make moves like the one you suggest. If you read his quotes on recruiting from one of his follow up interviews, he says he looks at 3 kinds of players when he recruits - skill (QB, WR, CB), bigs (OL,DL), and big/skills (RB, LB, S) (I'm paraphrasing here and I inserted the positions that go into each group - he did not actually say which positions go into each group). Roberson would fall into the big/skills group, and it sounds to me like Kelly will play any kid in that group where ever he is (1) needed or (2) Kelly thinks he can play at a high level. So if Roberson gets on campus, Kelly sees that he's just an incredible athlete who has the football instincts to play anywhere, and there is a hole in the depth chart 1-2 years out at a position other than RB/FB, he may very well switch the kid.

cierre woods can play saftey next year

WhoDeyIrish
01-09-2010, 02:49 AM
Anybody else think this might be the most under the radar, underrated, one of the best recruits of the class? I do!

BGIF
01-09-2010, 09:17 AM
Anybody else think this might be the most under the radar, underrated, one of the best recruits of the class? I do!


#2 FB on Scout, Rivals #14 RB how underrated can he be?

Corry
01-09-2010, 10:25 AM
Scout lists him as a FB.

Domina Nostra
01-09-2010, 11:40 AM
Scout: #2 FB and 3 stars...
ESPN: #39 RB, medium 3 star at 77.

...he could be underrated by 1-2 stars.

WhoDeyIrish
01-09-2010, 12:19 PM
#2 RB on Scout, Rivals #14 RB how underrated can he be?


Just seems out of all of our recruits that he is one that seems to never get mentioned or talked about. Just flying under the radar.

GoIrish41
01-09-2010, 04:22 PM
cierre woods can play saftey next year

no way wood plays safety next year. everyone starts with a clean slate this year and wood has as good a chance at anyone as being the #1 RB

neoroks32
01-13-2010, 08:51 PM
no way wood plays safety next year. everyone starts with a clean slate this year and wood has as good a chance at anyone as being the #1 RB

then he has as good a chance at anyone as being the #1 S

neoroks32
01-13-2010, 08:51 PM
Just seems out of all of our recruits that he is one that seems to never get mentioned or talked about. Just flying under the radar.

hes #2 FB

irishandy
01-14-2010, 09:02 PM
Cierre Wood as a safety!! Are you kidding me?? I think Wood should've gotten playing time last year. If Roberson can play FB, put him there the only guy we have is Hughes.

jason_h537
01-15-2010, 12:51 AM
Yeah Cierre has got the tools to be a great RB its just a mater of if he can stay healthy and putit all together. I love Roberson and if Gio flips i wont be heartbroken because this kid could play. Let him sit for a year and he can be our powerback

BGIF
01-15-2010, 01:24 AM
... its just a mater of if he can stay healthy and putit all together. ...

Did Wood have a health problem last year that raises that question. I don't recall hearing anything to that effect.

jason_h537
01-15-2010, 01:40 AM
Did Wood have a health problem last year that raises that question. I don't recall hearing anything to that effect.

No but its football.

BGIF
01-15-2010, 04:37 AM
Oh

IrishandColts
02-03-2010, 12:44 PM
He committed

jason_h537
02-03-2010, 02:30 PM
Love me some Roberson. Will be a great compliment to Wood/ Riddick if we run the ball

Dacian_Irish
02-03-2010, 02:33 PM
Is he recruited as RB still? I wonder if he is moved to MLB....

faithfulfan
02-03-2010, 02:54 PM
I doubt it. From watching the interview with our RB coach this morning, he gives rave reviews about this kid. Says he is a big body with homerun ability. Reggie Brooks giving Jerome Bettis comparison on body style. Said he may be better suited for FB.

jason_h537
02-03-2010, 03:06 PM
does Kelly use a FB?

Roberson is a RB not MLB. There never was any mention of him playing defense in the entire recruitment process

faithfulfan
02-03-2010, 03:15 PM
I'm not sure if he uses FB. Possibly some sort of slot back.

Ironman8
02-03-2010, 03:17 PM
Robert Hughes Jr.?

jason_h537
02-03-2010, 03:19 PM
Robert Hughes Jr.?

Roberson doesnt need to be sold on the idea of being a power back. he's got it already

Ironman8
02-03-2010, 03:33 PM
Roberson doesnt need to be sold on the idea of being a power back. he's got it already

I meant more of the type of back we saw out of the shotgun that Hughes was in several games this year, such as the Purdue game. The powerback in BK's offense seems to be out of place, but I am excited for Roberson to step in and compete for touches.

Aerosmith777
02-04-2010, 10:11 AM
Watching the press conference, this seems to be the kid Kelly's most excited about, for whatever that's worth.

jason_h537
02-05-2010, 12:54 AM
Watching the press conference, this seems to be the kid Kelly's most excited about, for whatever that's worth.

Watch his highlight film and you'll understand too. Ill look for a link

BGIF
02-05-2010, 01:03 AM
Watching the press conference, this seems to be the kid Kelly's most excited about, for whatever that's worth.

He's a kid Weis worked overtime on to convince him he had a place in the Weis offense. Like Bennett, I suspect Roberson will do even better in Kelly's offense.

jason_h537
02-05-2010, 01:14 AM
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Not the video i was looking for but still good (try and ignore the song)

BGIF
02-05-2010, 01:46 AM
Looks good.

D-BOE34
12-27-2010, 03:39 PM
I am pretty excited about this kid next year. I know Kelly was impressed with his development. Do you guys feel he wil be our #2 next year??

jmurphy75
12-27-2010, 04:02 PM
I'm excited too, I've heard rumblings that he is "Hughes like" with more lateral talent.

Sherm Sticky
12-27-2010, 04:40 PM
I'm nearly a 100% sure he won't be our #2 next year. Wood will be number 1 and Gray will be a solid # 2. If say Huggins commits, which I highly doubt, he has a good chance to move ahead of Roberson.

GreatGolson
12-27-2010, 05:01 PM
Cam redshirted correct?

Rizzophil
12-27-2010, 05:27 PM
Cam redshirted correct?

That is correct Sir

D-BOE34
12-27-2010, 05:55 PM
I like Gray because he runs hard and has good hips. I see the same thing with Cam only he seems to have really good field vision to match. I guess I could almost say I hope Cam becomes #2 back caliber with Gray and we have a deep stable of boys who can carry the ball north to south!

Old Man Mike
12-27-2010, 09:42 PM
Gray's issues will be pass protection and ball security. Let's hope he's great at those. If not, either Roberson or McDaniel could get to #2.

Sherm Sticky
12-27-2010, 09:46 PM
Gray's issues will be pass protection and ball security. Let's hope he's great at those. If not, either Roberson or McDaniel could get to #2.
Agree Gray has issues with pass protection, but he will be a senior while Roberson and Cam will be freshman. I would rather have a senior picking up the blitz than the other two.

BGIF
01-27-2012, 09:07 AM
No, Jonesman I don't know Roberson's medical status. But this would appropriate place to look. ND coaches sometimes discuss medical career ending injuries creating a slot when discussing a new class on NSD. I think it's more common for them to do so after NSD when the hold a PC about upcoming Spring Ball. A athlete can comment anytime he choses.

jonesman
01-27-2012, 09:52 AM
I know that many times, Kelly will give some roster updates at his signing day presser. However, I saw on DD where a guy is saying that he already heard that Cam is getting a medical. I am really hopeful he is just spouting off. Cam would be a big loss to our backfield. He was the only real power/speed guy we had.

Emcee77
01-27-2012, 10:01 AM
I know that many times, Kelly will give some roster updates at his signing day presser. However, I saw on DD where a guy is saying that he already heard that Cam is getting a medical. I am really hopeful he is just spouting off. Cam would be a big loss to our backfield. He was the only real power/speed guy we had.

Yep. This is disappointing news if it's true. Before the injury I heard nothing but great things about Cam. Wasn't he the scout team player of the year in 2010? We have enough talent in the backfield to be ok without him but I was really looking forward to seeing that power/speed combo on the field. Hopefully the rumor is false.

Irishcop
01-27-2012, 10:01 AM
Was Roberson's injury that serious???

jonesman
01-27-2012, 10:07 AM
Yes. The injury was a serious knee injury. He torn both mcl and acl. I also remember that Kelly said at one of the pressers during the fall that Cam's progress was slow.

Those are the only facts we have at this time. Since the injury occurred last spring, he has about 18 months to recover for this coming season. We really could need him in 2013. We lose Riddick for sure after 2012 and possible Wood if he passes on his 5th year.

Irishcop
01-27-2012, 10:15 AM
Yes. The injury was a serious knee injury. He torn both mcl and acl. I also remember that Kelly said at one of the pressers during the fall that Cam's progress was slow.

Those are the only facts we have at this time. Since the injury occurred last spring, he has about 18 months to recover for this coming season. We really could need him in 2013. We lose Riddick for sure after 2012 and possible Wood if he passes on his 5th year.

Thanks. I would hate to lose him. I've been looking foward to seeing him on the field.

BGIF
01-27-2012, 10:51 AM
Yes. The injury was a serious knee injury. He torn both mcl and acl. I also remember that Kelly said at one of the pressers during the fall that Cam's progress was slow.

Those are the only facts we have at this time. Since the injury occurred last spring, he has about 18 months to recover for this coming season. We really could need him in 2013. We lose Riddick for sure after 2012 and possible Wood if he passes on his 5th year.

I thought the rehab was expected to go through the Spring so I wasn't looking for an update on him this soon. I commented a week or two ago that a career ending medical injury oftimes opened up an additional slot on the roster as part of normal attrition and mentioned Roberson as one with a serious injury. Don't know if that reader picked it up from my general comment on attrition. I've seen no such report from UND this winter for any football player.

TheSunIsRising
03-20-2012, 08:18 PM
Based on the personnel updates, Cam will at least be practicing - although limited.

Hopefully he gets the rest of the mobility back over the summer.

Emcee77
08-04-2012, 12:36 PM
Sapp and Lou somogyi of 247 both said Roberson was moving around well at practice today.

Maybe he won't need to take a medical. I hope not. He showed a lot of potential before he for hurt.

jonesman
08-04-2012, 01:10 PM
Rumors of his demise appear to be much exaggerated. I saw him on film today and he was moving well with knee brace.

GO CAM!!! We are all rooting for you. You would be a great addition in 2013 when Cierre and Theo are gone.

Bogtrotter07
08-05-2012, 10:31 AM
And did he look as big, for a running back, as I have heard?

GoldenIsThyFame
08-08-2012, 12:53 PM
Career is done. Pursuing medical scholarship.

Irishman77
08-08-2012, 12:58 PM
Just seen that on the prestwood tweet. What a shame. Good luck Cam.

Emcee77
08-08-2012, 01:01 PM
Very sad, after all the hard work he did on the scout team in 2010 and in rehab in 2011 and '12. Best of luck to him.

Sherm Sticky
08-08-2012, 02:05 PM
WTF! Damn best of luck Cam

What happened? People were saying he looked good this spring.

ndfi78
08-08-2012, 02:19 PM
Sucks for Cameron :(

rtrn2glory
08-08-2012, 02:19 PM
wow...quite the 360...heard nothing but good things recently...should be zero issue with that medical scholly.

sorry if this is the wrong time, but with carrico and cam's careers unfortunately ending...does that add 2 spots to our current recruiting class??

Good Luck Cam in your future!! Get that degree!!

Sherm Sticky
08-08-2012, 02:22 PM
wow...quite the 360...heard nothing but good things recently...should be zero issue with that medical scholly.

sorry if this is the wrong time, but with carrico and cam's careers unfortunately ending...does that add 2 spots to our current recruiting class??

Good Luck Cam in your future!! Get that degree!!
Yes, but remember you can't have more than 25 recruits a cycle.

GoldenIsThyFame
08-08-2012, 02:26 PM
Yes, but remember you can't have more than 25 recruits a cycle.

But you can have EEs that don't count against the 25 as long as you have the openings in the prevoious class (we do obviously). Georgia will be signing close to 35 this year.

Redbar
08-08-2012, 02:28 PM
Stay positive Cam. Thanks for the effort and HEART. Will always be a big fan!

Sherm Sticky
08-08-2012, 02:29 PM
But you can have EEs that don't count against the 25 as long as you have the openings in the prevoious class (we do obviously). Georgia will be signing close to 35 this year.
Yep and damn about UGA

Bogtrotter07
08-08-2012, 03:06 PM
Go raibh míle maith agat! Many good things to you, sir!

Old Man Mike
08-08-2012, 04:07 PM
God bless you, Warrior.

Irish YJ
08-08-2012, 04:44 PM
But you can have EEs that don't count against the 25 as long as you have the openings in the prevoious class (we do obviously). Georgia will be signing close to 35 this year.

To add, we'll likely save 4 for 5th years. The numbers now as it stands with the loss of Cam and Jordan are 24/28 not considering EEs (not sure what we have prior class still free). 24 to be taken this year assuming we save 4 for 5th years.

ohara831
08-08-2012, 04:49 PM
Wishing him the best of luck. Go get that degree and you can still reach your highest goals.

ndcoltsfan2010
08-08-2012, 08:25 PM
I was really rooting for this kid..., just the past couple of days I thought he was actually going to make it. I really wish this kid the very best. Hate to lose three players in just a few days.

ACamp1900
08-08-2012, 08:27 PM
man, the hits just keep coming today...

tadman95
08-08-2012, 09:12 PM
Best of luck Cam! Thank you for all of the hard work trying to get back. Lots of life ahead of you, use every bit of it.

johnnykillz
08-08-2012, 09:15 PM
Best of luck Cam! Thank you for all of the hard trying to get back. Lots of life ahead of you, use every bit of it.

This.

Amen!

MrIrishCanadian1
01-06-2013, 04:08 PM
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I noticed Roberson is in Miami with the guys (see :45). I guess kids on medical scholarship still get many of the perks of being a football player?

West Coast Domer
01-06-2013, 04:10 PM
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I noticed Roberson is in Miami with the guys (see :45). I guess kids on medical scholarship still get many of the perks of being a football player?

After the SC game he was out by the buses signing autographs. Thats cool he gets to still travel with the team.

Sherm Sticky
11-30-2014, 07:21 PM
Was just thinking about him and realized he could have been the starting RB this year. A Robert Hughes type back.

Just another in a long list of injuries for this cursed program.


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