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NDinL.A.
04-04-2009, 08:35 PM
Outside Linebacker
Raleigh, NC; Southeast Raleigh HS

Height: 6-3
Weight: 232
Forty: 4.6
Bench Max: 320
Squat Max: 500
Vertical: 32
GPA: 2.9
Test: 1400 (3 part)

Ratings and Rankings
Rivals: :s::s::s::s:; Outside Linebackers (21); Rating 5.8
Scout: :s::s::s:; Middle Linebackers (16)
ESPN: :s::s::s:; Inside Linebacker (17); Grade 77

Statistics
Junior: 120 Tackles; 6 Sacks

Offers
Notre Dame (OV 10/17)
North Carolia St (OV 12/11/09)
Clemson
Duke
Florida St
Maryland
South Carolina

Decision: 7/11 Notre Dame

ND Recruiter: Diaco, Cooks (Corwin Brown)

Links of Interest
Combine Highlights (http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/recruiting-football/AMP-Kendall-Moore-camp-highlights-48191;_ylt=ArDHF9ISgTWAV_4hPsCXBWfe7q1_)
Combine Highlights (http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/recruiting-football/AMP-Showdown-LB-vs-RB-pt1-48216;_ylt=AptgdrTedgbqSX_6mhYVjERVlq1_)

NDinL.A.
04-04-2009, 08:39 PM
Just offered yesterday. FSU and South Carolina lead right now, but he says he was an ND fan growing up, so that helps us. Late offer because ND was waiting on his transcripts. Has been in contact w/ Corwin Brown on a weekly basis. Called this offer 'big'...

Clausen2Kamara
04-05-2009, 01:15 AM
Sounds good bro...Looks to have good size....Our LB depth is crazy right now...I really think Poz or A-Mac are gonna transfer...

NDinL.A.
05-22-2009, 11:04 AM
Good news on him. He announced a top 4, in order:

ND
FSU
LSU
NC State

The Polish Irishman
05-22-2009, 12:20 PM
Nice, I know he has concerns about the weather.

Clausen2Kamara
05-22-2009, 12:35 PM
Good news on him. He announced a top 4, in order:

ND
FSU
LSU
NC State

Sweet! Def looks like a player...

OCIrish
05-22-2009, 07:04 PM
I thought I read somewhere that he was a lifelong Irish fan.

BGIF
05-22-2009, 08:13 PM
I thought I read somewhere that he was a lifelong Irish fan.


I didn't get that impression from a writeup by Shurburtt, ESPN, when he was offered.


It was definitely big to get that offer. My parents are real high on them and they want me to check them out. I am not that familiar with ND, but I am going to go up there and check them out. I know they have a real rich history and a lot of good football has been played there. I also saw the movie "Rudy." I want to get to know more about a lot of the things they do at ND.


A couple of weeks ago Steve Hare, IrishIllustrated noted:


Moore likes what he hearsIt's hard to believe, but if LB Kendall Moore signs with ND in February, some credit might go to NFL star Julius Peppers. A coaching connection on the Irish staff to North Carolina has Moore intrigued. Moore idolizes the Carolina Panthers pass rusher and recently learned ND assistant Jon Tenuta coached the All-Pro in college. Combine that with Corwin Brown’s work and the Irish are in strong shape.

jason_h537
05-22-2009, 11:50 PM
The big draw for him is Tenuta. If the defense plays lights out this year, we might steal a few more recruits thanks to him.

BGIF
05-23-2009, 08:28 AM
The big draw for him is Tenuta. If the defense plays lights out this year, we might steal a few more recruits thanks to him.

The defense should be aggressive this year both from a talent and play calling perspective. If ND produces consistent first possession TDs the other teams are going to be forced to play catch up. IF ND owns the first Q, there are going to lots of opportunites for the defense to shine. Think ND's '05 offense with the '02 defense.

notredomer23
05-23-2009, 09:23 AM
I didnt realize how ballin this guy is. I think if he takes an official he will be ours

NDinL.A.
05-23-2009, 07:49 PM
Chris Martin said that he's been recruiting and talking to Kendall a lot, more than any other recruit...

jason_h537
05-23-2009, 08:22 PM
he needs to be talking to Anthony Barr.

tko
05-23-2009, 08:55 PM
he needs to be talking to Anthony Barr.

you mean he needs to be talking to both of them.

NDinL.A.
05-23-2009, 09:04 PM
he needs to be talking to Anthony Barr.

He's talking to whoever talks to him. It just so happens that he and Kendall get along really well and talk the most. If Barr doesn't recriprocate (and who knows if he does or doesn't), what's he to do? I too hope that Martin does, but Barr's in good hands with Polian...

jason_h537
05-23-2009, 09:56 PM
True, but damn i want Anthony Barr at Notre Dame. That kid is a beast.

IrishAddiction
05-24-2009, 12:44 PM
Wow, i have really havent been keeping up on recruiting lately, kind of upset with myself. Kendall looks like one hell of an athlete and football player, hope we land this kid and Fortt.

jason_h537
06-01-2009, 11:44 PM
Plans to be on campus June 26th, as well as hit the USC Camp and Tennessee

BGIF
06-02-2009, 01:49 AM
Plans to be on campus June 26th, as well as hit the USC Camp and Tennessee

ND has a camp 6/28 - 7/1. Will he be a camper or is this a pre camp visit?

notredomer23
06-02-2009, 01:39 PM
ND has a camp 6/28 - 7/1. Will he be a camper or is this a pre camp visit?

I have seen the camp on the 26th...we have A LOT of recruits coming that day too.

BGIF
06-02-2009, 04:07 PM
I have seen the camp on the 26th...we have A LOT of recruits coming that day too.

From UND.com Football Camps

Session I, June 14-17 (7th-12th grade): boarder $410/nonboarder $350 Session II, June 28-July 1 (9th-12th grade): boarder $410/nonboarder $350


The 26th is Friday while the 28th is Sunday so he could be coming in early for camp or he could just be making a visit and not camping.

I'd imagine ND would encourage 2010 prospects to come in for the weekend to see the campus, meet with Admissions or professors, etc, in a less hectic period than during camp days.

jason_h537
06-03-2009, 12:11 AM
I think he is just coming for the day but i could be wrong. ND is trying to make it a big recruiting day, they are also expecting Jerrell Priester that day but those are the only two that i have heard

WabashFalcon
06-03-2009, 03:44 AM
Waybe he wants to get on campus so he has the WiFi available to read any number of books online in a single technological package....



(Think about it.... think about it....)

BGIF
06-03-2009, 03:49 AM
Waybe he wants to get on campus so he has the WiFi available to read any number of books online in a single technological package....



(Think about it.... think about it....)


Thinking ... thinking ... NOT processing.


Would he be talking advantage of the onsite "schematic advantage"?

WabashFalcon
06-03-2009, 04:17 AM
To prove I'm not crazy...

Amazon.com: Kindle: Amazon's 6" Wireless Reading Device (Latest Generation): Kindle Store (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00154JDAI/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=3582166815&ref=pd_sl_8rbzgblsw_p)

BGIF
06-03-2009, 04:26 AM
To prove I'm not crazy...

Amazon.com: Kindle: Amazon's 6" Wireless Reading Device (Latest Generation): Kindle Store (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00154JDAI/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=3582166815&ref=pd_sl_8rbzgblsw_p)


with that he doesn't need to come on campus. He can play at home.

Quick - Yes
Nasty - As Nasty as you wanna be
Thick - Uh, uh.

NeuteredDoomer
06-03-2009, 04:33 AM
To prove I'm not crazy...

Amazon.com: Kindle: Amazon's 6" Wireless Reading Device (Latest Generation): Kindle Store (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00154JDAI/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=3582166815&ref=pd_sl_8rbzgblsw_p)

OK. Look dude. That girl in the ad? She rejected me. Something about not liking things with furry legs and big things. Weird.

BGIF
06-12-2009, 12:00 PM
6/11 by Stan Olsen Charlotte Observer


Kendall Moore has 14 offers and will be cutting his list to 7 in the next few days.

So far 3 make the cut NCS, ND, and SCA.

Other offers include CL, DUK, ECU, UNC, WF, FSU, UK, LOU, UMD, MSST, and WVU.

Plans to visit ND 6/26 and to camp at UTN.

IrishAddiction
06-21-2009, 08:46 PM
Hell of a player, hope he comes to the irish, we need more players like this. Nice little write up from irishsportsdaily.com, figured i would post it if anyone wanted to read. link below.

In the Film Room: Kendall Moore - (http://www.irishsportsdaily.com/index.php?option=com_resource&controller=article&article=556&category_id=7&Itemid=83)

BGIF
06-21-2009, 11:40 PM
Thorough review. I though we'd have trouble getting LBs after the 8 taken the past 2 years. Based on Drisikell's analysis Moore sounds like he be a solid addition to the LB corps.

WabashFalcon
06-22-2009, 12:55 AM
With all the LB's, I have to think that the 3-4 has to be used much, much more than the 4-3 base.

jason_h537
06-22-2009, 03:36 AM
With all the LB's, I have to think that the 3-4 has to be used much, much more than the 4-3 base.

I think right now our team is better suited for a 3-4. We are still gonna have most of our talent back next year too. Brian Smith, Darius Fleming, Steve Filer, David Pozluzny, Anthony McDonald, Manti Te'o, Zeke Motta, Carlo Calabrese, and Dan Fox. The Irish would like to add Kendall Moore and Anthony Barr (who could play DE and from reports the Irish have begun discussing the possibilty of RB). Its not a bad problem to have.

BGIF
06-22-2009, 03:50 AM
I think right now our team is better suited for a 3-4. ...

Why?

Explain.

jason_h537
06-22-2009, 04:05 AM
Why?

Explain.

Kerry neal and Darius Fleming are more tweeners that are perfect for the 3-4. Sean Cwyner and Ethan Johnson are those big 3-4 ends that stack well against the run. plus our depth at LB and lack of at D line better suit our numbers. I prefer a 4-3 d and am happy to see us go back to it but our recruitng that past couple years have been for a 3-4. Now we need Cwyner and Johsnon to bulk up to play tackle, Neal moves down to DE ( which i think will suit him better), and hope Fleming is athletic enough to play SAM.

Brown
06-22-2009, 04:08 AM
This team has lots of LB depth / talent ... and lack of depth/talent at DL. I don't think we run a true 3-4 because of our lack of size on the defensive line. No true nose tackle to gobble up blockers and let our talented LBs do their thing. We need as many bodies on the line as possible to slow down oppositions running attack.

WabashFalcon
06-22-2009, 04:11 AM
Why?

Explain.

We have more talent at LB. We do not have two stud DTs in the middle. More talent, less "holy-shit-they-are-throwing-the-ball-all-over-the-field-because-we-have-no-pass-rush-up-the-middle".

NDinL.A.
06-22-2009, 10:35 PM
UPDATE: He's coming to ND on the 26th of June, this Friday, with his parents. Good friend and fellow ND recruit Prince Shembo will be there as well. The 26th is a big day for ND recruiting...

jason_h537
06-23-2009, 12:36 AM
Dont forget Amerson. Hopefully we can get Lueders and Hendrix to commit tomarrow and finish it off with a Moore, Amerson commitment.

IrishAddiction
06-23-2009, 07:41 PM
He seems really excited about the visit. Said of the possability of committing on the visit "...they say you just know when your on campus. So Im just waiting to get that feeling." Very nice articlie on him i found, link below. Also talks about Shembo.

Moore Excited About Irish Visit - (http://www.irishsportsdaily.com/index.php?option=com_resource&controller=article&article=569&category_id=7&Itemid=83)

BGIF
06-23-2009, 07:57 PM
Nice quote in the Mike Frank article


I'll also get to hang out with coach Brown. I really like coach Brown. We talk every week, and we e-mail each other all the time. I really feel comfortable with him.
Kendall Moore

Legacy
06-26-2009, 12:20 AM
Some day soon we'll have to recruit against Corwin Brown, when he is a head coach somewhere.

Ultimate Penn St. Hater
06-26-2009, 12:31 AM
Hopefully thats not for a while.

jason_h537
06-26-2009, 12:37 AM
With all this coach in waiting BS going around, I say we name him next. Corwin is a man, this guy will be a great coach. I just hope if he does leave he gets a good job. With the exception of Randy Shannon, most black coaches have to suck it up at Miami (OH), and Buffalo.

NDinL.A.
06-26-2009, 12:48 AM
With all this coach in waiting BS going around, I say we name him next. Corwin is a man, this guy will be a great coach. I just hope if he does leave he gets a good job. With the exception of Randy Shannon, most black coaches have to suck it up at Miami (OH), and Buffalo.

Well, guys like Ty Willingham and Karl Dorrell set the African-American race back 30 years LOL.

P.S. My 2 favorite teams, ND and UCLA, had those 2 clowns as head coaches. Oh the horror. Not good times. And UCLA hired Dorrell after Ty had that great 1st year with ND, and he was basically Ty's clone. In other words, he sucked ass.

Back to the topic, hope Moore's visit is going well!...

jason_h537
06-26-2009, 12:59 AM
I didnt want to bring those two up. Like you i also have love for UCLA. Aggghhhhh i cant believe i didnt get in

The Polish Irishman
06-26-2009, 10:23 AM
Yeah Bruh.!
Im Out Here Now.. Its Tight Already.
But Ima Take The Tour Tomorrow.


Moore wrote this on C. Martin's facebook page last night. Martin had or is recruiting Moore.

IrishInFl
06-26-2009, 10:26 AM
I like that he wrote Ima. Like Ima firin ma lazor!

NDinL.A.
06-26-2009, 12:53 PM
I didnt want to bring those two up. Like you i also have love for UCLA. Aggghhhhh i cant believe i didnt get in

Me too! UCLA said no to me; I think they actually laughed at my application ha ha. But USC recruited me hard, sending me things every week, and I got in, but thank God I said no (I switched my major to education in college, and I didn't need 6 figure loans on a teacher's salary). Went to a state school and I'm cool wit it.

As for Moore, he and Shembo are on campus, but no Amerson, as he couldn't make it...

BGIF
06-26-2009, 09:53 PM
Yeah Bruh.!
Im Out Here Now.. Its Tight Already.
But Ima Take The Tour Tomorrow.


... Martin had or is recruiting Moore.

For UNC, LSU, or did Mom remind him, "You recruit only for ND or your Juco back here."?

jason_h537
06-27-2009, 12:25 AM
Would love a Moore commit. get the Fauria taste out my mouth

jason_h537
07-01-2009, 12:16 AM
Rumor goin round that Moore will commit July 11th. Checkin out some sites for confirmation. Don't hold me to this, just passin on what i read.

BGIF
07-01-2009, 12:27 AM
... get the Fauria taste out my mouth

You may care to reconsider those words considering his alledged infraction.

BGIF
07-01-2009, 12:28 AM
Rumor goin round that Moore will commit July 11th. Checkin out some sites for confirmation. Don't hold me to this, just passin on what i read.


I wasn't very optimistic about LBs in this class considering the last two classes. He would be a nice addition.

jason_h537
07-01-2009, 12:32 AM
I wasn't very optimistic about LBs in this class considering the last two classes. He would be a nice addition.

Yeah, outside of Barr (who might not even play LB), i didn't think we would get a solid LB this class. KInda reminds me of a more athletic Toryan Smith.

jason_h537
07-01-2009, 12:36 AM
Think its legit

High School OT.com - N.C. State, Duke on Moore's shortlist; announcement date set (http://www.highschoolot.com/content/blogpost/5474370/)

Gotta be optimistic with quotes like this

This past weekend, Moore visited Notre Dame and came away impressed.

“It was nice, and I enjoyed it a lot,” he said. “I wanted to find a little bit more about them, and now I feel like I know enough about them to make a decision.”

NDinL.A.
07-01-2009, 12:49 AM
Think its legit

High School OT.com - N.C. State, Duke on Moore's shortlist; announcement date set (http://www.highschoolot.com/content/blogpost/5474370/)

Gotta be optimistic with quotes like this

Beat me to the punch. And that was the quote that stuck out to me, about knowing enough to make a decision.

The interesting thing about this, is that in another article I read he said when he commits he'll still take a few official visits (looked, can't find the article right now), which flies in the face of what CW preached about being a solid commit. He did not say that in this article though, so maybe he'll be solid to whoever he commits. I like where we stand though...

roto-stud
07-04-2009, 12:22 AM
irish ill. twitter reports K Moore down to final three... NC St., South Carolina and Notre Dame... will make choice on 11 July 09...

jason_h537
07-04-2009, 12:30 AM
Yup, read some boards that say he already commited to Weis and is just making it public. Hope their right.

OCIrish
07-04-2009, 10:07 AM
Me too!!

WabashFalcon
07-04-2009, 11:28 AM
Man... he's like a bonus buck. Didn't really need him, but glad you found it in your pocket.

BGIF
07-08-2009, 03:04 AM
7/07/09 South Bend Tribune

Lemming believes that the Irish will land Raleigh, N.C., outside linebacker Kendall Moore

WabashFalcon
07-08-2009, 10:41 AM
Do I get to paint his ass if Lemming is wrong?

IHateMarkMay
07-08-2009, 11:11 AM
I never knew you painted asses Wabash.. How did you get into that field of work?

WabashFalcon
07-08-2009, 11:14 AM
I never knew you painted asses Wabash.. How did you get into that field of work?

Basically... when I pledged the Sigma Chi Fraternity.

BGIF
07-08-2009, 03:04 PM
Do I get to paint his ass if Lemming is wrong?

That's between you and the postman.

tko
07-08-2009, 03:11 PM
Basically... when I pledged the Sigma Chi Fraternity.

muddy helmet specialist

WabashFalcon
07-08-2009, 03:40 PM
muddy helmet specialist

I'm a kinky bastard.

Clausen2Kamara
07-10-2009, 10:09 PM
All signs are pointing up...ND lands Moore tomarrow and thats more than an educated guess...

IrishInFl
07-11-2009, 03:37 AM
So you know eh? Whoo! I'm drunk biatch! Warchant.com rulesZ!!

BGIF
07-11-2009, 03:39 AM
So you know eh? Whoo! I'm drunk biatch! Warchant.com rulesZ!!

Did you find any other notes pinned to body when you woke up?

Boyd?
Riggs?

IrishInFl
07-11-2009, 03:49 AM
I found out nothing except that Gene can get some pretty good looking ladies to a party! Woo!

Seriously though, no new info.

BGIF
07-11-2009, 04:05 AM
I found out nothing except that Gene can get some pretty good looking ladies to a party! Woo!

Seriously though, no new info.

I trust you did your duty and took one for the team.

BGIF
07-11-2009, 04:22 AM
7/10 Pete Sampson, IrishIllustrated.com

Notre Dame could be less than 24 hours from its next commitment on defense. Another pledge or two or three could be coming by month’s end. Check out this week’s update to the Master List on defense, where Notre Dame looks to continue its recruiting roll with pledges from Kendall Moore, Spencer Boyd and Bruce Gaston. The Irish are in strong shape with all three.

tannerpw3
07-11-2009, 09:28 AM
That's fascinating. I hadn't heard that before.

WabashFalcon
07-11-2009, 11:57 AM
T-minus 6.5 hours until his announcement.

Junkhead
07-11-2009, 12:23 PM
That's fascinating. I hadn't heard that before.

ok, we get it already.

tannerpw3
07-11-2009, 03:13 PM
nah

Ultimate Penn St. Hater
07-11-2009, 03:34 PM
What time is the announcement?

Clausen2Kamara
07-11-2009, 04:04 PM
530 edt

tannerpw3
07-11-2009, 04:21 PM
Is it going to be on anything, or do we just have to wait for someone to post something?

Bubba
07-11-2009, 06:11 PM
Just got an e-mail from ISD that he committed to ND.

Welcome Kendall.

tannerpw3
07-11-2009, 06:15 PM
Welcome to ND Kendall Moore.

BGIF
07-11-2009, 06:40 PM
BlueandGold.com // Moore Chooses Irish To Make No. 12 (http://www.blueandgold.com/content/?aid=7322)

by Jason Sapp 7/11

According to Sapp Moore, 6-3, 232, is coming in as an OLB but could grow into an ILB or DE. He chose ND over NCS, Duke, FSU, UMD, and SCA.

Why he chose ND:

It was the right school for me,” he added. “It’s the feeling that I get whenever I think about the school. I know it’s the right situation for me academically and athletically.


Moore previously commented on ND:
I like them a lot. Their program is definitely on the rise. Academically they’re on the same level as Duke. They can hang with the highest schools. Their program is one of the better ones recruiting me. They have a great tradition, too.

Last year 120 tackles/6 sacks.
Rivals 4-star prospect, #14 OLBin the country, #167 player.
Scout.com 3-star , #16 MLB.

Official visit 10/17 for ND/USC

IHateMarkMay
07-11-2009, 07:00 PM
Rivals reports it too. Just have to go to Kendall's page.

IrishAddiction
07-11-2009, 07:47 PM
Welcome to the ND family Kendall.

BGIF
07-11-2009, 07:49 PM
Moore Makes It Public - (http://www.irishsportsdaily.com/index.php?option=com_resource&controller=article&article=634&category_id=7&Itemid=83)

Steve Wiltfong story 7/11 - A FREEBIE!



Moore on Tenuta

From the little time I spent with him, I found out easy that he’s a really good coach. He talked to me about where I feel most comfortable playing, and I told him I’ve been playing outside linebacker my whole life, back since Pop Warner, and he said if that’s what I’m most comfortable with, I can come in playing that, and then I can move to other positions. He just wants me to start out comfortable. He said he definitely sees in my high school film that I can play in space, so he said we’ll start with that, and work from there

BGIF
07-11-2009, 07:51 PM
Notre Dame could be less than 24 hours from its next commitment on defense.


WabashFalcon reels 'em in!

The Polish Irishman
07-11-2009, 08:11 PM
Nice pickup...He could be a beast in the middle

no.1IrishFan
07-11-2009, 08:16 PM
WabashFalcon reels 'em in!

Then gets banned for no good reason!

WabashAlwaysFights
07-11-2009, 08:22 PM
Yeah... any chance JPham or another Mod could help me out over this mixup?

NDinL.A.
07-11-2009, 08:44 PM
This is great news to come home to (Moore being Irish that is!) Very nice pickup!!! 2 scouts that I've read like him a lot and have him as a solid 4 star...

tannerpw3
07-11-2009, 09:54 PM
I like Moore as a player, but after reading his comments on taking more official visits (if Weis wants him to, he says - altho I can't imagine why he would think a coach would want that), I don't think he's a solid verbal.

jason_h537
07-11-2009, 09:59 PM
Welcome aboard Kendall. Good pick up at a position that is not of need. I love that we can be picky with LB's now.

NDinL.A.
07-11-2009, 10:16 PM
First post updated...

NDinL.A.
07-11-2009, 10:18 PM
I like Moore as a player, but after reading his comments on taking more official visits (if Weis wants him to, he says - altho I can't imagine why he would think a coach would want that), I don't think he's a solid verbal.

I completely agree. This is what he said to Rivals (free article):

Previously, Moore mentioned that even after making his verbal commitment he might be interested in taking several official visits during the fall season. That's still his plan, so long as Irish head coach Charlie Weis is on board.

"Yes sir, definitely," Moore said. "I felt like this is the start of my decision. I'm still going to wait throughout the whole season and see what goes on. I haven't talked to coach Weis about it, but I think that's pretty much accurate."

Moore said he's interested in checking out several schools.

"If possible I'd like to visit Florida State and Oregon, South Carolina and maybe Maryland, but that's just if coach Weis wants me to," he said.



****I'm sorry, but this shouldn't be the start of his decision, it should be the end of his decision, and the beginning of his ND life. Now, it sounds like if we win, he's all Irish. And if we lose, he'll start looking around. But personally I'd rather him be confident in his decision and the fact that we're going to win, and be a solid commit. I mean, I guess I'm glad that he's honest, but I'd rather him not commit and just take all 5 visits. Remember, when Tai'lor Jones said he's committed to Stanford but will still take some visits, we all laughed and said that in actuality he wasn't committed. Many ND people think if we win this year he'll flip. And now, albeit to a lesser degree, it seems like we have the same situation with Moore...

tannerpw3
07-11-2009, 10:28 PM
The thing with it, though, is 'wants me to' translates to 'lets me.' So what if Weis says no? I'm actually curious how Weis handles this one. The kid seems likely to be ours if we play all right. We're certainly in a better position than any of the schools he didn't verbal to today. But Weis can't be happy with a verbal that isn't really a verbal. I wonder if he lets the kid remain 'commited' and take those visits.

BGIF
07-12-2009, 01:34 AM
Yeah... any chance JPham or another Mod could help me out over this mixup?

It was in the works long before your post.

Patience little grasshopper and friends.

WabashFalcon
07-12-2009, 02:51 AM
Maybe... the visits coexist with the record the team has at the time? If we start off on a bad foot, maybe he then gets to take his OVs?

IrishInFl
07-12-2009, 04:27 AM
I like that I found out about this commit when Gene told me at the bar. BTW, warchant.com cowgirl contest kicked ass.

Junkhead
07-12-2009, 09:22 AM
It sounds like he almost wants to reserve a spot here, but leave his options open. I can't see Charlie giving that luxury, unless it's for a Manti Teo type recruit.

Polish Leppy 22
07-12-2009, 11:16 AM
I don't like the sound of it coming from his interview. What is this, Stanford?

CroatianSensation
07-12-2009, 12:09 PM
I don't consider this a "commit". More a soft verbal and we all know how those end up...

tannerpw3
07-12-2009, 12:19 PM
I too consider it a soft verbal, but I bet if you check (especially if you check those who after soft verballing, only visited other schools that had offered them prior to their soft verbal - ie, didn't visit a latecomer like Florida or USC), most soft verbals stay where they verbal to initially. So I don't consider it quite a commit, but pessimism seems uncalled for. I think we have every reason to believe we're more likely to get his LOI than the other schools on his list.

As of today, anyway.

Junkhead
07-12-2009, 03:51 PM
I too consider it a soft verbal, but I bet if you check (especially if you check those who after soft verballing, only visited other schools that had offered them prior to their soft verbal - ie, didn't visit a latecomer like Florida or USC), most soft verbals stay where they verbal to initially. So I don't consider it quite a commit, but pessimism seems uncalled for. I think we have every reason to believe we're more likely to get his LOI than the other schools on his list.

As of today, anyway.

I understand what you are saying, but when he "commits" and wants to look, what kind of a commitment is that?

WabashFalcon
07-12-2009, 04:23 PM
I understand what you are saying, but when he "commits" and wants to look, what kind of a commitment is that?

The "I'm out if you suck and I think you're gonna get fired" approach. Which I pray never occurs.

jason_h537
07-12-2009, 04:34 PM
Moore is a kid trying to make a life decision. This is not about the school or the fans, this is a decision based on what Moore thinks is best for him. The potential of a new coaching staff affects these type of decisions. Right now Moore has commited to Notre Dame. If the season goes bad and all this kids start looking around, then worry. Until then i am happy to have Kendall Moore aboard.

These kids are not lifelong Notre Dame fans like us.

no.1IrishFan
07-12-2009, 04:44 PM
It sounds like he almost wants to reserve a spot here, but leave his options open. I can't see Charlie giving that luxury, unless it's for a Manti Teo type recruit.

Also remember that Weis has the "if you're looking, we're looking" policy, I'm sure that this kid knows that. He could get bumped just as quick as we can.

tannerpw3
07-12-2009, 06:15 PM
Moore is a kid trying to make a life decision. This is not about the school or the fans, this is a decision based on what Moore thinks is best for him. The potential of a new coaching staff affects these type of decisions. Right now Moore has commited to Notre Dame. If the season goes bad and all this kids start looking around, then worry. Until then i am happy to have Kendall Moore aboard.

These kids are not lifelong Notre Dame fans like us.


But that means he hasn't commited, or ought not to have commited yet, IMO. From the sound of it, we're his leader. No one's faulting the young man, but it's an important distinction. And I'm sure the coaching staff is making it as well.

tannerpw3
07-12-2009, 06:22 PM
I understand what you are saying, but when he "commits" and wants to look, what kind of a commitment is that?

Not much of one, but - well, Moore didn't have to commit to anywhere yesterday. But he chose to commit to ND. It's a lot different than a soft verbal like Chris Martin seemed to be for a couple days, where the guy seems rock solid for you and then out of nowhere says he wants to take visits. When that happens, the guy is gone (tho Martin's case was more of a misunderstanding). But Moore is being upfront. He chose yesterday and chose us. But I do think it's a soft verbal. For all we know, though, the staff will talk him out of taking visits.

Junkhead
07-12-2009, 06:54 PM
Not much of one, but - well, Moore didn't have to commit to anywhere yesterday. But he chose to commit to ND. It's a lot different than a soft verbal like Chris Martin seemed to be for a couple days, where the guy seems rock solid for you and then out of nowhere says he wants to take visits. When that happens, the guy is gone (tho Martin's case was more of a misunderstanding). But Moore is being upfront. He chose yesterday and chose us. But I do think it's a soft verbal. For all we know, though, the staff will talk him out of taking visits.

Makes sense, but why commit at all, if you aren't sure?

Polish Leppy 22
07-12-2009, 07:23 PM
I'd rather have 5 guys like him hold out to commit later and not take any visits than commit in July, take 4 other visits, and be left shrugging your shoulders having no clue where the kid is headed.

Dive right in...or get the hell out

tannerpw3
07-12-2009, 07:28 PM
Makes sense, but why commit at all, if you aren't sure?


ND is the most prestigious program offering him to this point. It's definitely the most prestigious of the ones he says are topping his list. Maybe he just wants to make sure he'd have a spot with us. A 4-star LB is more likely to get squeezed out of an ND recruiting class than an NC State one.

I think we should be more welcoming. A lot of these posts make it seem like he chose another school yesterday. Guy chose ND.

Polish Leppy 22
07-12-2009, 09:17 PM
Guys like Chris Martin and Tommy Rees chose ND.

Moore chose ND...for now

NDinL.A.
07-12-2009, 10:36 PM
A couple points here:

1. I don't blame anyone for saying he's a soft commit. He says he's going to ask CW if he can take some OV's. That means you're not solid, until you come out and say you're not taking OV's (and if ND starts to lose, no one will blame him for 'hmmmmming' on some schools, as Chris Martin would say. He's committing not only to ND but to CW and the staff).

2. Lo Wood told ISD that he has been recruiting other athletes to come to ND, including Shembo, Boyd and Riggs. Who else did he say is helping him recruit? Moore and Chris Martin. Boyd has become friends with both of them. Good sign for ND w/ Moore actively recruiting others.

3. Tom Lemming evaluated Kendall Moore. Now, some people love Lemming and think he's the best talent evaluator around (he's very old-school), and others think he sucks. Those people will also tell you he's a noted ND apologist. Having said that, he rated Moore as 'almost a 5 star'. He really thinks he's going to be very good for this Irish. In the midst of Moore's controversial statements, I think we've forgotten that the kid's a very good player.

Just saying...

WabashFalcon
07-12-2009, 10:45 PM
A couple points here:

1. I don't blame anyone for saying he's a soft commit. He says he's going to ask CW if he can take some OV's. That means you're not solid, until you come out and say you're not taking OV's (and if ND starts to lose, no one will blame him for 'hmmmmming' on some schools, as Chris Martin would say. He's committing not only to ND but to CW and the staff).

2. Lo Wood told ISD that he has been recruiting other athletes to come to ND, including Shembo, Boyd and Riggs. Who else did he say is helping him recruit? Moore and Chris Martin. Boyd has become friends with both of them. Good sign for ND w/ Moore actively recruiting others.

3. Tom Lemming evaluated Kendall Moore. Now, some people love Lemming and think he's the best talent evaluator around (he's very old-school), and others think he sucks. Those people will also tell you he's a noted ND apologist. Having said that, he rated Moore as 'almost a 5 star'. He really thinks he's going to be very good for this Irish. In the midst of Moore's controversial statements, I think we've forgotten that the kid's a very good player.
Just saying...

Awesome. Just... awesome. What would he need to do to become a 5 star in his opinion? In your opinion ND? You always seem to be a great eye for talent brother.

wpeifer
07-12-2009, 11:46 PM
What kind of player are the Irish getting here in Moore? Do you think he would fit better on the inside or the outside? In other words, what skill set does he possess?

WabashFalcon
07-12-2009, 11:49 PM
Everything I've read has listed Kendall as a Mike. Dunno how he'll fit on the outside... but would love to see T'eo and Moore cracking heads in a 3-4 scheme.

NDinL.A.
07-13-2009, 12:10 AM
Awesome. Just... awesome. What would he need to do to become a 5 star in his opinion? In your opinion ND? You always seem to be a great eye for talent brother.

You got me mixed up with someone else.

From what scouts say, he's very good. He has size and strength, but he can also run. He's athletic, which is of course what we need more of. You look at his film, and you see him chasing down runners. He made 230 (!!!) tackles the past 2 years, so he really gets after it. And he has the frame to add more weight. He prefers playing outside LB b/c that's what he's played his whole life, and Tenuta told him that's where he'll start off at ND. But most see him on the inside. And I read where one scout, who has him at a 4 star, says he's still raw. I think we got a good one here.

Here's what Lemming had to say, plus a wee bit more:

CBS College Sports Network analyst Tom Lemming ranks the 6-foot-3, 232-pound Moore as one of the best players in the state and rates him a four-star recruit. As a junior, Moore registered 120 tackles and six sacks, and also caught 30 passes with seven touchdowns according to Rivals.com.

"(He's) not quite a five-star guy, but very close," Lemming said. "He's also a good tight end, but a better outside linebacker. He's a big, big kid who can run. He drops into coverage perfectly. He's a good all-around athlete. He comes off the edge very well and could grow into a defensive end too. He's the kind of big guy that could be real versatile that way. It's a great catch, one of their best players in this class."

Lemming sent credit Brown's way for landing a player in a state that is recruited heavily not only by the in-state schools, but also by powers Florida, Tennessee and Georgia.

"Corwin Brown did a real good job on the kid," Lemming said. "You've got a lot of people hitting that area, so it's a real good catch for Notre Dame."

The credit doesn't stop with Brown, however. Defensive end Chris Martin, who announced in February that he will play for the Irish, also worked on Moore. The two became Facebook friends when they were sophomores, and Martin has been pushing Moore.

"He was like, 'You need to go on and commit,'" Moore said.

And Moore, already, has turned into a recruiter. Not long after announcing his choice, Moore texted Prince Shembo, a Charlotte defensive end who is being courted by ND, telling him that he needs to be next.

South Bend Tribune: Notre Dame football: Moore picks Irish (http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090712/SPORTS13/907120388/1001/Sports)

Junkhead
07-13-2009, 12:18 AM
If he is helping recruit others to ND, you would think he'd be a solid verbal. It seems strange to be committed "right now". Don't get me wrong, I'd be thrilled to have him in the class, but I get more excited by the guys who commit case closed.

phork
07-13-2009, 12:18 AM
And Moore, already, has turned into a recruiter. Not long after announcing his choice, Moore texted Prince Shembo, a Charlotte defensive end who is being courted by ND, telling him that he needs to be next.


Good enough for me. Welcome aboard kid, you made the right call.

TDHeysus
07-13-2009, 12:39 AM
Makes sense, but why commit at all, if you aren't sure?

as George W would say...."Strategery"

jason_h537
07-13-2009, 03:54 AM
What kind of player are the Irish getting here in Moore? Do you think he would fit better on the inside or the outside? In other words, what skill set does he possess?

He plays outside but will develop as a Mike. Has the build to be a solid run stuffer but is more athletic than say Toryan Smith. From what i have read Moore, Bailey and Badger are guys that Tenuta loves.

IHateMarkMay
07-15-2009, 09:28 AM
No fear. Not taking any visits. Per Scout.

Junkhead
07-15-2009, 09:46 AM
No fear. Not taking any visits. Per Scout.

Makes me wonder if the coaching staff had a chat with him about his plans.

BGIF
07-15-2009, 09:53 AM
No fear. Not taking any visits. Per Scout.


Previously, Moore mentioned that even after making his verbal commitment he might be interested in taking several official visits during the fall season. That's still his plan, so long as Irish head coach Charlie Weis is on board.


He now has a clear understanding of his new head coach's position.

Wasn't Charlie.

Wasn't Corwin.



Mrs. Martin called.

IHateMarkMay
07-15-2009, 10:03 AM
He now has a clear understanding of his new head coach's position.

Wasn't Charlie.

Wasn't Corwin.



Mrs. Martin called.

hahahahahah love it

Polish Leppy 22
07-15-2009, 10:31 AM
Ha...Mrs Martin.

Mrs. Martin is to ND's 2010 recruiting class as Mama McNabb is to the Eagles

tko
07-15-2009, 11:21 AM
Ha...Mrs Martin.

Mrs. Martin is to ND's 2010 recruiting class as Mama McNabb is to the Eagles

she likes Chunky soup too

WabashFalcon
07-15-2009, 11:25 AM
He now has a clear understanding of his new head coach's position.

Wasn't Charlie.

Wasn't Corwin.



Mrs. Martin called.

Ha!

Jason Pham
07-16-2009, 12:59 PM
Profile updated.

jason_h537
10-19-2009, 11:13 PM
The visit seemd to really solidify his verbal. Moore was seen singing the alma mater with Chris Martin after the game

OCIrish
10-19-2009, 11:15 PM
The visit seemd to really solidify his verbal. Moore was seen singing the alma mater with Chris Martin after the game

I hope he was in Martins ear the whole game about him looking around. I think Martin is a big reason why Moore is commited to the Irish, and in turn, Moore should be all over Chris about staying commited to us, IMO.

DirtySecret
10-20-2009, 12:56 AM
I hope he was in Martins ear the whole game about him looking around. I think Martin is a big reason why Moore is commited to the Irish, and in turn, Moore should be all over Chris about staying commited to us, IMO.

I think that's a big reason why Moore commited because of Martin. Like I said does C-Martin really want to throw all his hard work recruiting kids to ND with him down the drain and goes else where or does he want to enjoy the fruits of his labor in what he helped build here.

irishmarine
10-20-2009, 01:55 AM
C mart is so important to this class. Hopefully with a couple more big name commits he sees how special his class can be.

NDinL.A.
11-30-2009, 01:46 PM
According to ESPN's South Carolina website, Moore will be looking at FSU, South Carolina and NC State should he decide to decommit from ND. He and Chris MArtin are the only ones so far who have com eout and said their commitment to ND isn't solid. Moore told ISD that ND would be really tough to top if he were to take visits, but now it looks like he will take visits...

IrishAddiction
11-30-2009, 03:46 PM
Dammit. I knew this was going to happen, but i just wish it wasnt happening on this side of the ball. Either side for that matter. Hope the new coach comes in and impresses the hell out of him......

GOLDENISTHYTATE
12-01-2009, 04:21 PM
Can't get mad at him for being honest and wanting to reevaluate their decisions. The coaches they commit to are the men that are going to be the most important person in their lives for the next four years. I respect Moore and hope he realizes that ND is a special place.

jason_h537
12-02-2009, 12:49 AM
He visited NC State. Is still committed to ND but is weighing his options

BGIF
12-02-2009, 08:37 AM
12/1 Per JC Shurburtt, ESPN


LB Kendall Moore picked the Irish ahead of North Carolina State earlier in the recruiting cycle and while it was thought he would possibly de-commit as soon as Charlie Weis was fired, he remains part of the 2010 class, for now.

"It is really sad," Moore said. "He is a great guy. Notre Dame is still a good school, though. I didn't choose Notre Dame just because of the coaching staff. It is just a good school in general. I've already been talking with my dad about everything and I plan on talking with my coach, and we will see what the next step is. I'm definitely still committed to Notre Dame though."<!-- end free preview text -->

Big23Head
12-11-2009, 11:26 AM
Visiting NC State and maybe South Carolina. If Corwin is retained he said his decision will be a lot easier.

Also stated he is no where near close to chaning his mind or decommitting but looking around as a back up plan.

WabashFalcon
12-11-2009, 11:02 PM
So... he's Solid... but still looking around?


Okay. I got ya.

jason_h537
12-13-2009, 08:28 PM
said his visit to NC state went alright.
hasnt heard from Kelly yet but wants to see who his coaches will be before finalizing his decision. ND is stll his favorite

irish4ever
12-14-2009, 08:39 AM
hasnt heard from Kelly yet but wants to see who his coaches will be before finalizing his decision. ND is stll his favorite

Lord, let the man get to the office before tending to business! Surely, he wasn't expecting a phone call this w/e already!?!

Polish Leppy 22
12-14-2009, 10:37 AM
Lord, let the man get to the office before tending to business! Surely, he wasn't expecting a phone call this w/e already!?!

He could. Kelly said he was on the horn with recruits Sunday morning

BGIF
12-15-2009, 11:34 AM
Lord, let the man get to the office before tending to business! Surely, he wasn't expecting a phone call this w/e already!?!

Actually The Man had called him but didn't reach him. Here's a quote from a Mike Frank interview

Notre Dame Football - Moore Waiting for Call (http://www.irishsportsdaily.com/blogs/mikes-blog/1543-moore-waiting-for-call)

that paints a different picture than that prior message did,

"I haven't spoken to him yet. He called and left a message, but I haven't heard from him yet. I'm definitely looking forward to that. I want to see what they're going to do on the defensive side of the ball."



On his commitment to Notre Dame:
"I'm definitely still committed to Notre Dame. I'm all the way with Notre Dame. I'm just taking a wait and see approach to this. I still have to see about the situation defensively. I just want to talk to coach Kelly and see what the situation is going to be up there. I might come back up there for a visit. My dad says he thinks I'm living in fantasy land when I say I know how cold it's going to be up there. I might come up there again and just check it out and meet the coaches and see how things look, but I need to talk to my dad about that."

jason_h537
12-15-2009, 07:17 PM
pretty funny stuff frompops

mbeckha
12-15-2009, 07:40 PM
pretty funny stuff frompops

Thats really doesn't sound to funny, sounds like dad is trying to sway him home.

vernfootball1
12-28-2009, 07:00 PM
So does Kendall Moore still consider himself committed to Notre Dame? “Definitely,” Moore said. “I am committed to Notre Dame and that’s where I plan on going. My (other) visits are just a backup plan. They’re just helping solidify my decision.” Another thing that has helped solidify Moore's status with the Irish is the newly-hired coach Brian Kelly. “I like coach Kelly and the new energy he's..."



Just saw this on scout im not a premium member so i dont know what else he says i guess hes just talkin bout coach kelly, but im guessing nothing really new though

Maddog77
12-29-2009, 05:18 AM
ISD has said all along they think he will still end up in South Bend.

BGIF
01-07-2010, 11:34 AM
Per Bob Wieneke SBT 1/6

South Bend Tribune: Notre Dame Football: Recruits warming up to new Irish staff (http://www.southbendtribune.com/article/20100106/SPORTS13/100109701/1021/Sports)

Met with Tony Alford on Tuesday.

I'm definitely still committed. I'm still solid.


Moore said Wednesday. As for visits elsewhere.


I'm not exactly sure.You never know what can happen.

The Polish Irishman
01-18-2010, 10:39 AM
No longer a Soft Verbal on Scout. Solid. Will not take any more visits. The coaching staff is visiting this week.

BGIF
01-18-2010, 10:51 AM
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Linebacker Kendall Moore from Southeast Raleigh High School (Raleigh, N.C.) has been waiting for the opportunity to get to know Brian Kelly has his new staff. Kelly met with Moore and his family the first week of January and this week he’ll host two of Kelly’s assistant coaches.

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BCSorBust
01-18-2010, 05:24 PM
This is good to hear. It's making me really drink the koolaid that the recruiting will be fine and that it may take 2-3 years but we are on the right track.

TerryTate
06-10-2010, 06:11 PM
Notre Dame Football - Good Things Come To Those Who Work (http://www.irishsportsdaily.com/football/2646-good-things-come-to-those-who-work)

BGIF
06-10-2010, 06:41 PM
Thank you, Corwin!

NeuteredDoomer
06-10-2010, 07:20 PM
Thank you, Corwin!

Yep. Classy move.

DirtySecret
06-10-2010, 08:40 PM
Thank you, Corwin!

I always love Corwin Brown. He's great guy with the right attitude for the college game..

mick2
11-03-2011, 11:51 AM
will moore be the guy who steps up when teo leaves? he layed that dude out on saturday and looks pretty athletic.

I know you cant really replace a guy like teo, or floyd for that matter, sometimes i worry about next year especially if teo goes. losing leadership like floyd teo and smith is gonna be tough.

Sherm Sticky
11-03-2011, 12:27 PM
will moore be the guy who steps up when teo leaves? he layed that dude out on saturday and looks pretty athletic.

I know you cant really replace a guy like teo, or floyd for that matter, sometimes i worry about next year especially if teo goes. losing leadership like floyd teo and smith is gonna be tough.
I believe Moore is being groomed to replace Teo. Moore is def one heck of an athlete, hitter and competitor. I know he is somewhat raw in his recognition and coverage skills though. But, I do love this kid.

TerryTate
11-03-2011, 12:35 PM
I always love Corwin Brown. He's great guy with the right attitude for the college game..

Wow...

I also like Kendall Moore a lot. Lots of depth at MLB. Rabasa and Grace will get a shot next year as well.

Sherm Sticky
11-03-2011, 01:11 PM
Wow...

I also like Kendall Moore a lot. Lots of depth at MLB. Rabasa and Grace will get a shot next year as well.
lol seriously wow...

Rack Em
11-03-2011, 01:21 PM
I also like Kendall Moore a lot. Lots of depth at MLB. Rabasa and Grace will get a shot next year as well.

Is there any chance that Rabasa and/or Grace leapfrog Calabrese into the Will? Or are they working at that position already? I think that might be a more difficult jump for Rabasa considering he was a DE in high school. Coverage identification may be more difficult for him than Grace.

Not to get too far off topic, but I did like seeing Moore's physical style of play last weekend. Hopefully he'll have another year to learn from Teo.

irishog77
11-03-2011, 01:33 PM
I think Moore and Grace/Rabassa/_____ will all be in the mix this offseason, whether Teo stays or leaves. Fox and Carlo have been average players, with no sign of an impending breakout coming. I'd be shocked if both Fox and Carlo get invited back for a 5th year after next year. One of them getting a 5th year is possible for sure, but I don't know how probable.

Sherm Sticky
11-03-2011, 01:47 PM
I think Moore and Grace/Rabassa/_____ will all be in the mix this offseason, whether Teo stays or leaves. Fox and Carlo have been average players, with no sign of an impending breakout coming. I'd be shocked if both Fox and Carlo get invited back for a 5th year after next year. One of them getting a 5th year is possible for sure, but I don't know how probable.
Justin Utopo might be in the conversation also. He has made some nice plays on special teams already. With him we have to remember he was a DE/DT in high school so transitioning to ILB was a huge jump for him, as it might also be for Rabasa.

fitz_bu47
11-03-2011, 01:49 PM
Carlo and Fox have been pretty good, no team has an all american at every position....The only problem I have had w/ Carlo, was that bonehead taunting penalty against USC.....As for this thread, I feel very comfortable w/ Kendall Moore stepping up when Manti is gone, whether that be next season or not.

returnofthemack
11-03-2011, 02:05 PM
Carlo isn't an All-American caliber player but he is pretty good. What I like about him is that he brings the nastiness and hard-nosed element to our defense. He is a hard-hitter and someone to be feared. He plays with swagger and you need at least one player like that at each level (Lynch on D-line, Carlo LB, RJ in the secondary).

Te'o4Heisman
11-03-2011, 02:25 PM
I think Moore and Grace/Rabassa/_____ will all be in the mix this offseason, whether Teo stays or leaves. Fox and Carlo have been average players, with no sign of an impending breakout coming. I'd be shocked if both Fox and Carlo get invited back for a 5th year after next year. One of them getting a 5th year is possible for sure, but I don't know how probable.

I disagree. Carlo has been playing for basically 2 years now and has not shown much improvement in his recognition, reaction time, or coverage skills, but Foxy has improved drastically as the season has gone on. He is much more athletic than Carlo and his reads and physicality have improved each week. Lets not forget playing inside is completely new to this kid at the D-1 level and if he continues with his current progression he will be a nice player for us next year and in 2013.

fitz_bu47
11-03-2011, 02:30 PM
Carlo isn't an All-American caliber player but he is pretty good. What I like about him is that he brings the nastiness and hard-nosed element to our defense. He is a hard-hitter and someone to be feared. He plays with swagger and you need at least one player like that at each level (Lynch on D-line, Carlo LB, RJ in the secondary).

Totally agree, I love his attitude, just have to be smart w/ it...Which he normally is, that one penalty against USC is the only time I can remember him losing it. Next year I would obviously love to have Manti back, but if he graduates and leaves, I am very comfortable w/ Carlo/Fox/Kendall/Utupo/Grace/Rabasa.

irish4ever
11-03-2011, 02:58 PM
Carlo and Fox have been pretty good, no team has an all american at every position....The only problem I have had w/ Carlo, was that bonehead taunting penalty against USC.....As for this thread, I feel very comfortable w/ Kendall Moore stepping up when Manti is gone, whether that be next season or not.

I think that Fox is out of position and whiffs on tackles too much to be considered "pretty good". He has some improvement to do to get to "pretty good".

BeauBenken
11-03-2011, 03:19 PM
I disagree. Carlo has been playing for basically 2 years now and has not shown much improvement in his recognition, reaction time, or coverage skills, but Foxy has improved drastically as the season has gone on. He is much more athletic than Carlo and his reads and physicality have improved each week. Lets not forget playing inside is completely new to this kid at the D-1 level and if he continues with his current progression he will be a nice player for us next year and in 2013.

I disagree here. Carlo has done much better in coverage this year.

NDisme
11-03-2011, 07:16 PM
I think fox has been awful, plain and simple just bad.

rocket66
11-03-2011, 07:19 PM
I think fox has been awful, plain and simple just bad.

Me too

anarin
11-03-2011, 07:24 PM
love that a discussion between fox and carlo has taken over the kendall moore thread.

irishog77
11-03-2011, 07:28 PM
I'm sure Kendall checks this at least 11 times a day :yes:



:joke:

Sherm Sticky
11-13-2011, 12:57 AM
Can't wait till this kid becomes a starter...swag!

UmphreakDomer
11-13-2011, 01:01 AM
fox and calabrese are out of the play as soon as it gets by them. it looks like moore can chase it down. id like to see moore start this year. or at least rotate in on second and third downs behind carlo.

UmphreakDomer
11-13-2011, 01:01 AM
love that a discussion between fox and carlo has taken over the kendall moore thread.

1st day?

JoeyGetherall
11-13-2011, 01:11 AM
I would like to see him get more tick. Not sure what's holding the staff back from rotating him in a bit more.

Pachuco
01-29-2013, 02:10 PM
Will we see Mr. K Moore on the field this year? What will prevent him from seeing time?

The times I have seen him play, I've liked.

Whiskeyjack
01-29-2013, 02:17 PM
Will we see Mr. K Moore on the field this year? What will prevent him from seeing time?

Kelly stated in today's press conference that he expects Fox, Calabrese and Grace to vie for the starting spots at MILB and WILB. So that doesn't bode well for Moore's prospects as a starter.

That said, Fox will reportedly miss spring camp while he recovers from surgery (torn labrum), so there should be plenty of reps available for Moore to distinguish himself.

anarin
01-29-2013, 02:19 PM
Ive always wondered why he doesnt get PT. Everytime i've seen him he has made plays.

Whiskeyjack
01-29-2013, 02:21 PM
Ive always wondered why he doesnt get PT. Everytime i've seen him he has made plays.

Te'o never came off the field, and Darlo Calabrox was ahead of him on the depth chart. He's got a shot now that Te'o is moving on.

Sherm Sticky
01-29-2013, 02:30 PM
Even if he doesn't start this upcoming season, he is a valuable special teams player and by all accounts a great teammate.

Irishman77
01-29-2013, 02:33 PM
Moore was almost always the first man in on the kick off team.

Irish Houstonian
01-29-2013, 02:54 PM
He showed serious run-stuffing ability in the last B/G game. It's a wonder why we didn't see any of him against Mich St or Stanford.

Buster Bluth
01-29-2013, 03:23 PM
Te'o never came off the field, and Darlo Calabrox was ahead of him on the depth chart. He's got a shot now that Te'o is moving on.

This.

RDU Irish
01-29-2013, 05:34 PM
I hope this is an example of ND starting to reload instead of retooling. When he hits the field, I have high confidence in Moore getting the job done at a high level. In the meantime, he elevates special teams. As the rest of the team develops this level of depth, it will show through special teams and fewer underclassmen in the starting lineup. Those that do start will be at risk of jumping early to the NFL. Good problem to have.

Big fan of this kid. Can't wait to see more and won't be surprised if he pushes his way to the starting lineup sometime in 2013.

irishff1014
01-29-2013, 05:52 PM
Even if he doesn't start this upcoming season, he is a valuable special teams player and by all accounts a great teammate.

ST is still very important and you are still on the ND football team.

RDU Irish
02-08-2013, 10:01 AM
Rather than bump Nix's thread asking why we are talking about K-Moore in there, I'll just bump Kendall instead. Point made that T'eo kind of hogged playing time in the middle which should really get the back ups jacked up for spring practice and some real playing time. Kendall has two years of eligibility left if I am not mistaken and definitely looks the part. I'm hoping this local kid can find his stride and pleasantly surprise a lot of fans.

Domina Nostra
02-08-2013, 10:38 AM
Rather than bump Nix's thread asking why we are talking about K-Moore in there, I'll just bump Kendall instead. Point made that T'eo kind of hogged playing time in the middle which should really get the back ups jacked up for spring practice and some real playing time. Kendall has two years of eligibility left if I am not mistaken and definitely looks the part. I'm hoping this local kid can find his stride and pleasantly surprise a lot of fans.

I think this is two good points: (1) 2 years of eligibility left; (2) playing behind one of the best MLB not just in the country, but in the country in a few years.

The thing I don't understand--meaning I don't know the positions well enough to understand--is why didn't Moore or Grace take time away from Carlo or Fox if they are pretty good too? Is there that big a difference between MIKE and WILL? Is one more downhill?

EuropeanDomer
02-08-2013, 11:00 AM
Every time Kelly & the staff talk about the middle LB position, they always talk and praise Grace more than Moore so i think Jarrett has the edge over Moore in this battle.

RDU Irish
02-08-2013, 11:07 AM
Every time Kelly & the staff talk about the middle LB position, they always talk and praise Grace more than Moore so i think Jarrett has the edge over Moore in this battle.

Great point.

Domina Nostra
02-08-2013, 11:08 AM
My question is, was the pecking order:

1) Te'o
2a) Fox
2b) Calabrese
3) Grace
4) Moore

or

1) T'eo
2) Grace
3) Moore
------
1a) Fox
1b) Calabreses

Grahambo
02-08-2013, 11:16 AM
Every time Kelly & the staff talk about the middle LB position, they always talk and praise Grace more than Moore so i think Jarrett has the edge over Moore in this battle.

That or they feel Moore is better but trying to get him to commit himself to that next level. Mind games if you will. Get hungry type of thing.

Bogtrotter07
02-08-2013, 11:19 AM
I really think they look at it as two positions, WILL and MIKE. Diaco said yesterday the MIKE needed to have verbal skills, part of a unique talent set. Made me think that it was

Te'o ----------- Fox
Grace --------- Calabreese
----------------- Moore

Luckylucci
02-08-2013, 11:21 AM
I believe Domina's first scenario is correct. Manti was never coming off the field. So you put your next two best ILB's at the other spot (WILL) and let them split reps. As of this last season Grace had passed up moore in the staff's eyes, IMO. I believe even the two deep that comes out before every game shows that. If Kendall has a good spring and fall camp we might see a lot of the same out of the MIKE and WILL next season. Where Kendall and Grace share reps pretty consistantly.

Emcee77
02-08-2013, 11:22 AM
I think this is two good points: (1) 2 years of eligibility left; (2) playing behind one of the best MLB not just in the country, but in the country in a few years.

The thing I don't understand--meaning I don't know the positions well enough to understand--is why didn't Moore or Grace take time away from Carlo or Fox if they are pretty good too? Is there that big a difference between MIKE and WILL? Is one more downhill?

No, basically the same position, just responsibility for different gaps. Deeb told 247, way back last summer, around the time that he committed, that the coaches told him that the only difference is that the MIKE makes the calls, so whichever of the top 2 ILBs is most comfortable doing that plays MIKE, and the other plays WILL.

Kelly has consistently spoken highly of Grace. I assume that the only reason he didn't play much is that there weren't enough reps to go around. Darlo Calabrox had WILL locked down and Teo had MIKE locked down by himself.

Domina Nostra
02-08-2013, 11:26 AM
No, basically the same position, just responsibility for different gaps. Deeb told 247, way back last summer, around the time that he committed, that the coaches told him that the only difference is that the MIKE makes the calls, so whichever of the top 2 ILBs is most comfortable doing that plays MIKE, and the other plays WILL.

Kelly has consistently spoken highly of Grace. I assume that the only reason he didn't play much is that there weren't enough reps to go around. Darlo Calabrox had WILL locked down and Teo had MIKE locked down by himself.

Interesting. So it will likely be Fox and Calabrese unless either:

1) Neither guy can call the defense; or
2) Grace or Moore overtakes them.

Luckylucci
02-08-2013, 11:59 AM
Hadn't heard this one yet (Darlo Calabrox). Thats pretty funny.

Emcee77
02-08-2013, 12:11 PM
Hadn't heard this one yet (Darlo Calabrox). Thats pretty funny.

Credit to Whiskey

Bogtrotter07
02-08-2013, 12:38 PM
Can anyone else remember Kelly talking about Grace succeeding Manti. It was during a news conference and I swear that his point was that Jared Grace won't equal a Manti (out of the box) but that the overall defense may improve enough that the defense is actually better next year.

That led me to believe that Grace was sliding into Mike. Grace and Moore got some play time this year, after the first three, but that is all I can come up with.

Domina Nostra
02-08-2013, 01:25 PM
Can anyone else remember Kelly talking about Grace succeeding Manti. It was during a news conference and I swear that his point was that Jared Grace won't equal a Manti (out of the box) but that the overall defense may improve enough that the defense is actually better next year.

That led me to believe that Grace was sliding into Mike. Grace and Moore got some play time this year, after the first three, but that is all I can come up with.

That was my impression as well.

Luckylucci
02-08-2013, 02:04 PM
Yes, if we had to put a team on the field today, it is my understanding that Grace will be the starter. Kelly did mention that if it was any other ILB that Grace was behind he would have seen the field more but because Teo never came off the field it was hard to get him minutes.

Emcee77
03-09-2013, 08:48 PM
Kelly stated in today's press conference that he expects Fox, Calabrese and Grace to vie for the starting spots at MILB and WILB. So that doesn't bode well for Moore's prospects as a starter.

That said, Fox will reportedly miss spring camp while he recovers from surgery (torn labrum), so there should be plenty of reps available for Moore to distinguish himself.

Update ... SBT has a fresh interview with Kelly up. When asked about ILB, this time he mentioned some additional possibilities, namely Danny Spond bouncing inside and Kendall Moore getting in the mix. So Moore's prospects may not be as dire as we thought after that previous presser.

Bogtrotter07
03-10-2013, 11:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiskeyjack
Kelly stated in today's press conference that he expects Fox, Calabrese and Grace to vie for the starting spots at MILB and WILB. So that doesn't bode well for Moore's prospects as a starter.

That said, Fox will reportedly miss spring camp while he recovers from surgery (torn labrum), so there should be plenty of reps available for Moore to distinguish himself.

Update ... SBT has a fresh interview with Kelly up. When asked about ILB, this time he mentioned some additional possibilities, namely Danny Spond bouncing inside and Kendall Moore getting in the mix. So Moore's prospects may not be as dire as we thought after that previous presser.


This provides more information on a bunch of things. If Kelly is talking about bouncing Spond inside, that speaks to Okwara Councell, and Smith, or some combination of them being the future of DOG. If Spond goes inside to WILL that solidifies our inside linebackers in pass coverage, which would be a good move. If they move Spond in, and he starts, do you realize how much our speed at linebacker will improve from last year to this? Let alone from CW's last year?

Next point: with everyone in the mix that Kelly just implied, do you realize how many can play now? With reserves in case of injury?

Finally, Kelly said Carlo will be back. So Danny Fox will be back. Wow.

The best thing about the interview is what he learned from the NCG. The one game season!

And I like the stability he tried to throw in a the end with the NFL fiasco. I just think his communication was a little soft.

stlnd01
03-10-2013, 12:28 PM
Next point: with everyone in the mix that Kelly just implied, do you realize how many can play now? With reserves in case of injury?


I think that speaks directly to the depth he's trying to build. Which he rightly discussed as a limiting factor in pre-NCG practices, and probably on special teams too. But we still need to develop depth on the offensive line. I realize the O-Line tends to rotate less in-game than defensive front seven, but you can't practice full bore on just one side of the ball. Hopefully that comes with these incoming freshmen.

As for the topic of the thread: All I know about Kendall Moore is that every time I've noticed #8 the last couple of years, he's been knocking someone's head off on special teams or in mop-up time. I'd like to think there's a way to get that guy on the field for more meaningful minutes.

Patulski
03-10-2013, 12:54 PM
Can anyone else remember Kelly talking about Grace succeeding Manti. It was during a news conference and I swear that his point was that Jared Grace won't equal a Manti (out of the box) but that the overall defense may improve enough that the defense is actually better next year.

That led me to believe that Grace was sliding into Mike. Grace and Moore got some play time this year, after the first three, but that is all I can come up with.

I remember that as well. I remember it as Kelly saying something like Manti was keeping "a pretty good player in Jared Grace" off the field. However, you never know when coaches use the media to encourage players and/or to motivate them.

Nevertheless, I think this will be a heavily contested spot. You do not replace a guy with Manti's talent easily. He didn't win all those post season awards for nothing. If we are to be as dominating defensively in rush defense, we have to replace two solid guys up the middle in Manti and Motta. Let's hope we've got the talent waiting in the wings.

Bogtrotter07
03-10-2013, 02:33 PM
I think that speaks directly to the depth he's trying to build. Which he rightly discussed as a limiting factor in pre-NCG practices, and probably on special teams too. But we still need to develop depth on the offensive line. I realize the O-Line tends to rotate less in-game than defensive front seven, but you can't practice full bore on just one side of the ball. Hopefully that comes with these incoming freshmen.

As for the topic of the thread: All I know about Kendall Moore is that every time I've noticed #8 the last couple of years, he's been knocking someone's head off on special teams or in mop-up time. I'd like to think there's a way to get that guy on the field for more meaningful minutes.

Agreed. I think over the years ND has had a lot of linebackers that it hasn't quite rung true until they were upperclassmen. And it is not like Manti didn't cause his own log jam. Now Grace is ready to explode. And Kendall, if he has a weakness, it has been coverage.

But to the other point. With Fox and Calabrese both back, being that they might not even start, do you know that conceivably, 10 to 12 linebackers could rotate in and out during first team reps? Do you know what that could do for reps down the stretch? Coupled with O-Line depth, that could make all the difference in an NC run!

MJ12666
03-10-2013, 02:43 PM
I don't recall Grace playing any meaningful minutes (if at all for that matter) last year. So I am just curious as how you came to the conclusion that Grace "is ready to explode"? Have you been able to watch "closed" practices?

Bogtrotter07
03-10-2013, 03:07 PM
I don't recall Grace playing any meaningful minutes (if at all for that matter) last year. So I am just curious as how you came to the conclusion that Grace "is ready to explode"? Have you been able to watch "closed" practices?

First of all my writing is a bit allegorical and prone to hyperbole. That wasn't the term that I should have used, because if he exploded literally, that would be messy.

I talked to a couple of different people that were at a number of end of season, and NCG practice sessions, as well as a couple who see and know the results of conditioning, etc.

The three cats (or wolves or krugers, if you prefer) that keep coming up are Grace, Okwara, and Jones. Guys to really watch. Back to Grace. He is 6'4", has his weight up, moves well, has improved his quicks and has that same hyper-velocity that Manti did; you know, where his body seems to explode into the tackle? Sorry.

Domina Nostra
03-10-2013, 03:26 PM
With all the normal caveats... I would love to see this:

CAT: Shembo/Okwara/Williams
MIKE: Grace/Fox
WILL: Spond/Calabrese
DOG: Councell/Smith

I think we need more speed on the inside, and Spond has the size to play the position. We have enough talent at DOG to make the move. If we don't do it, we are going to be weak in the center and keep Councell and Smith off the field at the same time. Just my opinion...

Bogtrotter07
03-10-2013, 03:31 PM
With all the normal caveats... I would love to see this:

CAT: Shembo/Okwara/Williams
MIKE: Grace/Fox
WILL: Spond/Calabrese
DOG: Councell/Smith

I think we need more speed on the inside, and Spond has the size to play the position. We have enough talent at DOG to make the move. If we don't do it, we are going to be weak in the center and keep Councell and Smith off the field at the same time. Just my opinion...

Excellent!

My personal would be:

CAT: Shembo/Williams/Okwara/
MIKE: Grace/Moore/Fox
WILL: Spond/Fox/Calabrese
DOG: Councell/Smith/Okwara/

I would see this as all three get first team reps. We certainly have the same idea!

scUM Hater
03-10-2013, 09:15 PM
Just remember Calabrese can't cover anybody......anybody.

stlnd01
03-10-2013, 09:54 PM
Just remember Calabrese can't cover anybody......anybody.

But his people...

Redbar
03-10-2013, 10:03 PM
I'm pulling for Kendall, really been a team guy, and the guy hits with bad intentions. I hope he earns some reps.

Old Man Mike
03-11-2013, 12:10 AM
Wish the best for Kendall but I haven't really heard nor seen anything yet that makes me believe that he'll bust the two-deep.

Kelly's comment about Spond is loaded with possible meaning. I tried to think like Diaco [unsuccessfully of course] several weeks ago when we were discussing the abundance of talent that we have at linebacker [with three starters returning and their backups as well]. I tried to imagine who are my best "eight", and how do I get them on the field?

I thought that the best eight were Spond, Councell, Grace, Fox, Calabreese, Shembo, Williams, and JSmith --- this because I stubbornly refused to think of Okwara as a LB. But, I'm giving up on that, so I'm replacing Williams with Okwara.

Because Kelly hints of Spond going inside, that would mean that he believes that JSmith is just too good to play only special teams. If Spond REALLY DOES move inside, then my next stellar wrong "plan" is:

Will: Spond, then Fox;
Mike: Grace, then Calabreese;
Cat: Shembo, then Okwara;
Dog: Councell, but watch-out!, JSmith.

This would get tremendous athleticism on the field. Sadly, it would leave some pretty fine athleticism off it. [including Kendall].

STLDomer
03-11-2013, 12:20 AM
I really don't think Kelly was inferring that moving Spond was in the cards. Hansen brought up moving him inside among other possibilities and Kelly just reflected those possibilities back at him, it's not like Kelly brought up Spond. Just my opinion though.

Patulski
03-11-2013, 11:16 AM
I tried to imagine who are my best "eight", and how do I get them on the field?

I thought that the best eight were Spond, Councell, Grace, Fox, Calabreese, Shembo, Williams, and JSmith --- this because I stubbornly refused to think of Okwara as a LB. But, I'm giving up on that, so I'm replacing Williams with Okwara.

Will: Spond, then Fox;
Mike: Grace, then Calabreese;
Cat: Shembo, then Okwara;
Dog: Councell, but watch-out!, JSmith.

Here's what Kelly just said about Williams (http://www.southbendtribune.com/news/sbt-notre-dame-football-kelly-unravels-bizarre-offseason-looks-ahead-20130309,0,6377329.story?page=3), who you've apparently relegated to 3rd string Cat.

"We think the combination of those two guys (Shembo and Willliams) gives us the best chance at that position. And so what I think you’ll see, across the board with this team, is the sum of this team is going to be greater than any one of its parts. If you stand back and look at it, that’s this kind of football team that’s coming together — a lot of guys playing, a lot of guys contributing. And the strength of us will be Ishaq and Shembo playing that position.

That's a pretty definitive statement about Williams' value in a pre spring ball climate.

Emcee77
03-11-2013, 11:29 AM
I really don't think Kelly was inferring that moving Spond was in the cards. Hansen brought up moving him inside among other possibilities and Kelly just reflected those possibilities back at him, it's not like Kelly brought up Spond. Just my opinion though.

True, we don't want to get carried away; Kelly was just mentioning possibilities.

But it's important news that Kelly is open to some of these options. When asked about ILB at his last presser, he said he expected Grace, Calabrese and Fox to compete, with no mention of Spond or Moore. Now we have more possibilities to keep an eye on this spring.

IrishLax
03-11-2013, 11:38 AM
When it comes to Spond playing ILB, I imagine you'd only see that on passing downs in a formation like...

Ishaq-Tuitt-Vanderdoes-Shembo

J. Smith/Councell - Spond - Nickel

The idea being you want you best coverage LBs on the field and you want to get after the passer. Last year Manti NEVER came off the field... that won't be the case this year. Jaylon on Day 1 will be able to drop in coverage better than any other LB on our roster AND can rush the passer from that OLB position giving him incredible flexibility on passing downs. Councell can probably do similar things and might be a better overall package than Jaylon to start due to experience. Spond we've already seen be quite proficient in zone coverage and seems like the ideal "ILB" to leave on the field if you're going to have one.

I strongly doubt you'd see Spond play any ILB on first down and extremely rarely (if ever) on second down.

Redbar
10-27-2013, 02:33 AM
Bump. Dominating play at the end of the Air Force game.

GoldenIsThyFame
10-27-2013, 10:38 AM
Making his case for a 5th year....

CanadalovesND
10-27-2013, 10:40 AM
He certainly is.

Could be next year's MIKE with Grace at WILL.

NoJusticeNoPeace
10-27-2013, 01:18 PM
He better get a 5th year with our issues at ILB next year. He showed yesterday that he's good enough to play for Notre Dame, and it's not like we have way too many ILBs.

Emcee77
10-27-2013, 01:47 PM
He certainly is.

Could be next year's MIKE with Grace at WILL.

Reverse that and I agree. He looked like a hell of an athlete out there. If he can do that against non-option teams without getting lost, he should definitely be in position to take a starting role next year.

stlnd01
10-27-2013, 04:13 PM
I don't know how he doesn't get a fifth year. We need ILBs. And he could certainly play his way into the rotation. Guy's always hit like a truck on special teams and when he's in during mop-up time. I guess coverage skills (and Teo?) have kept him from more significant minutes. But that's teachable.

Bogtrotter07
10-27-2013, 05:13 PM
I thought that his play yesterday was as good as anybody's against the AFA competition. He looked like he could deliver a quarter ton load pretty damned fast to me.

I remember earlier in the season on punt coverage when the ball hit him because he was standing way too under it.

But I don't see how they can keep this kid out of the lineup. He looks like he can fold people in half to me. I would like someone who really knows something to 'splain this one to me!

JoeyGetherall
10-27-2013, 05:56 PM
Never understood why he doesn't get more tick. I assumed he was in Diacos dog house or something. I figured coming into this season he would be a starter or at least in the rotation.

Old Man Mike
10-27-2013, 06:26 PM
Bogs&Joey: I don't know the answer to your puzzlement, but for what little it is worth, my opinion --- Kendall tends to be lost, sometimes wildly so, many times when the ball is not simply run. I have seen him confused in the way Carlo gets at his worst. Kendall is in some ways like Carlo: a downhill slobberknocker and rarely in touch with the passing game. If a Light popped on for him at Air force, great. We can certainly use his physicality.

rtrn2glory
10-27-2013, 06:48 PM
thing is with kendall since we seem to play 2 option teams a year bringing him back for a 5th may be worth having him for those two games alone.

Bogtrotter07
10-27-2013, 09:23 PM
Bogs&Joey: I don't know the answer to your puzzlement, but for what little it is worth, my opinion --- Kendall tends to be lost, sometimes wildly so, many times when the ball is not simply run. I have seen him confused in the way Carlo gets at his worst. Kendall is in some ways like Carlo: a downhill slobberknocker and rarely in touch with the passing game. If a Light popped on for him at Air force, great. We can certainly use his physicality.

For gods sake, then, do the right thing! Put him on the field and tell him where to go and who to destroy!


It works for the SEC!

JoeyGetherall
10-28-2013, 01:01 AM
Bogs&Joey: I don't know the answer to your puzzlement, but for what little it is worth, my opinion --- Kendall tends to be lost, sometimes wildly so, many times when the ball is not simply run. I have seen him confused in the way Carlo gets at his worst. Kendall is in some ways like Carlo: a downhill slobberknocker and rarely in touch with the passing game. If a Light popped on for him at Air force, great. We can certainly use his physicality.

You're probably right. I figured it was something to do with his lack "scheme comprehension" etc in practice. I obviously defer to coaches when it comes to playing time because they see these kids everyday but at a fan it's a bit puzzling when you see his game day performance, albeit he has had limited time unusually against string and on special times. But as bogs suggest sometimes you just have to recognize him for what he is a go let the kid rip it from time to time. I hope we see him a bit more the last 1/3 of the season.

BGIF
10-28-2013, 01:16 AM
You're probably right. I figured it was something to do with his lack "scheme comprehension" etc in practice. I obviously defer to coaches when it comes to playing time because they see these kids everyday but at a fan it's a bit puzzling when you see his game day performance, albeit he has had limited time unusually against string and on special times. But as bogs suggest sometimes you just have to recognize him for what he is a go let the kid rip it from time to time. I hope we see him a bit more the last 1/3 of the season.

Wasn't that exactly what fans said about Alice's boy?

JoeyGetherall
10-28-2013, 01:22 AM
Wasn't that exactly what fans said about Alice's boy?

Haha ya. I would be ok with him and her still being Irish though.

STLDomer
10-28-2013, 01:28 AM
Kelly in the spring:“Kendall runs and hits. We've just got to get him to run and hit the right people on a consistent basis. He's got great energy and great enthusiasm.”

Emcee77
10-28-2013, 01:31 AM
Kelly in the spring:

Thanks for finding this. I was about to paraphrase and then I got paranoid that I was going to butcher it.

No question that Moore has the physical ability to be a star ILB for us. The question that remains is just whether he has the mental ability/instincts to be in the right place at the right time no matter what the opponent is doing to confuse him. He looked great against Air Force, but when we play the academy teams, everyone knows just what they are going to do. That won't be true for most of our opponents. I get the impression that for every rep in which he makes a great hit and tackle, there's another in which he is lost.

dublinirish
10-28-2013, 06:46 AM
you would think Kendall would be in on goal line/short yardage situations where his bulk and hitting would be of use.

RDU Irish
10-28-2013, 09:21 AM
Great game, Kendall! Looks like he will have another chance at big minutes this week vs. Navy too.

IrishTP
10-28-2013, 09:25 AM
Hes had a few off field issues too but good kid and obviously high effort kid. Itll be interesting if he does comeback, im all for it.

Polish Leppy 22
10-28-2013, 09:41 AM
For gods sake, then, do the right thing! Put him on the field and tell him where to go and who to destroy!


It works for the SEC!

A few NFL teams, too

Irishfan33
10-28-2013, 10:55 AM
You guys are getting way to high on this kid because he can hit real nice....
He will not see the field unless its AF/NAVY/obvious running downs.

He is undisciplined/does not know how to play assignment football on passing downs.

Will probably be back next season but not for good reasons.

Redbar
10-28-2013, 11:33 AM
You guys are getting way to high on this kid because he can hit real nice....
He will not see the field unless its AF/NAVY/obvious running downs.

He is undisciplined/does not know how to play assignment football on passing downs.

Will probably be back next season but not for good reasons.

I think this sounds a bit critical, to put it nicely. I don't think any of us have seen enough of him to say he is undisciplined and does not know how to play assignment football. The coaches have intimated this, but never have they/would they characterize it in such a way that, "this is just who he is". Kendall is a work in progress just like every other guy who has ever put on the gold helmet. People are getting excited because the kid makes a lot of plays when he is playing in his comfort zone (the run game), maybe he can improve in the passing game like... just about every other linebacker on the team and maybe he will figure out "who to hit" as Coach said, or maybe he will be a situational player. Either way your post comes across like he can't or won't improve and like we shouldn't cheer on a guy who plays with great passion and energy despite very limited minutes. If we can't be excited about him who should we get excited about?

Bogtrotter07
10-28-2013, 11:42 AM
You guys are getting way to high on this kid because he can hit real nice....
He will not see the field unless its AF/NAVY/obvious running downs.

He is undisciplined/does not know how to play assignment football on passing downs.

Will probably be back next season but not for good reasons.

I am not intending to be high on him. I am frustrated with the coaching staff, however.

Did you watch Kelly's post game press conference. Was it my imagination, or did you hear Kelly admit that the Irish were not using the correct defensive schemes, leaving Jaylon on an island with contain, qb and pitch man, and not using the right blocking scheme, zone against a three man front that buries the nose man deep, where a gap scheme would be infinitely better?

I am also not intending to be high on Anthony Rasaba, but I thought he played very large while he was in! I am interested in your comments.

Ndaccountant
10-28-2013, 11:42 AM
I think this sounds a bit critical, to put it nicely. I don't think any of us have seen enough of him to say he is undisciplined and does not know how to play assignment football. The coaches have intimated this, but never have they/would they characterize it in such a way that, "this is just who he is". Kendall is a work in progress just like every other guy who has ever put on the gold helmet. People are getting excited because the kid makes a lot of plays when he is playing in his comfort zone (the run game), maybe he can improve in the passing game like... just about every other linebacker on the team and maybe he will figure out "who to hit" as Coach said, or maybe he will be a situational player. Either way your post comes across like he can't or won't improve and like we shouldn't cheer on a guy who plays with great passion and energy despite very limited minutes. If we can't be excited about him who should we get excited about?

I agree.

I will say this tho. Expecting him to come in and play like a late round pick is probably unrealistic. However, I think he can effectively take the place of Carlo, since they have similar strengths and weaknesses.

Emcee77
10-28-2013, 11:51 AM
I agree.

I will say this tho. Expecting him to come in and play like a late round pick is probably unrealistic. However, I think he can effectively take the place of Carlo, since they have similar strengths and weaknesses.

Yep, I was thinking the same thing. No reason Moore can't come back next year and be an effective WILL who is tough against the run and at least decent against the pass, in a square-peg-in-a-round-hole kind of way (which is to say a bit worse than decent, lol, but good enough to get on the field).

Irishfan33
10-28-2013, 11:56 AM
I think this sounds a bit critical, to put it nicely. I don't think any of us have seen enough of him to say he is undisciplined and does not know how to play assignment football. The coaches have intimated this, but never have they/would they characterize it in such a way that, "this is just who he is". Kendall is a work in progress just like every other guy who has ever put on the gold helmet. People are getting excited because the kid makes a lot of plays when he is playing in his comfort zone (the run game), maybe he can improve in the passing game like... just about every other linebacker on the team and maybe he will figure out "who to hit" as Coach said, or maybe he will be a situational player. Either way your post comes across like he can't or won't improve and like we shouldn't cheer on a guy who plays with great passion and energy despite very limited minutes. If we can't be excited about him who should we get excited about?

Work in progress, he's been here 4 years already.
I cheer him on, he's a ND football player, everytime i've talked to him after practice i've told him nothing but things like, great job today kid,way to get after it, looking good. And look i know you've only had the chance to see him on limited TV time but i've had the chance to see him now for a couple of years in practice and 3rd string is his place in a good defense.

On a team with nobody sure he would be playing and making great hits but his team would suffer when he has to play coverage. Welch,Koyack,Heurman,Smythe wear him out.

Dont you thing Diaco would have him out there if he trusted him.... just saying

Redbar
10-28-2013, 12:48 PM
Work in progress, he's been here 4 years already.
I cheer him on, he's a ND football player, everytime i've talked to him after practice i've told him nothing but things like, great job today kid,way to get after it, looking good. And look i know you've only had the chance to see him on limited TV time but i've had the chance to see him now for a couple of years in practice and 3rd string is his place in a good defense.

On a team with nobody sure he would be playing and making great hits but his team would suffer when he has to play coverage. Welch,Koyack,Heurman,Smythe wear him out.

Dont you thing Diaco would have him out there if he trusted him.... just saying

Manti was a work in progress going in to his senior year. I am not saying, nor have I ever said he should be starting or he is getting hosed. I bumped the thread to acknowledge a really nice game for a guy who always comes in and plays with great effort and violence even though his minutes are extremely limited. I think that is worth cheering. I would like to think he is working on his game in such a way that at some point, maybe in his fifth year, when we will be "ILB thin" he can carve out a niche. If not, I still think it was worth acknowledging his effort this past Saturday. I do think he would be valuable on this team next year, for the reason stated above, and am curious why you think he will be asked back "but not for good reasons."

Old Man Mike
10-28-2013, 12:48 PM
Irishfan: very interesting semi-inside comments. They fit VERY well with the coachspeak hints I've heard over two years, and the witnessing of the few real game [and Spring game] plays we've been able to watch.

When we on IE are discussing some "bench" player, or someone that some of us don't believe is getting enough reps, and you have some of these thoughts: Please share them with us. We on IE are typically starving for actual "earned opinions", rather than knee-jerk stream-of-consciousness opinions.


Redbar: of course I agree with you too about our constant duty to congratulate our guys for their accomplishments. So, kudos to that as well.

GoldenIsThyFame
11-19-2013, 02:10 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&amp;src=hash">#NotreDame</a> HC Brian Kelly on senior LB Kendall Moore: &quot;He's left...a favorable impression about where he's going, where he's trending.&quot;</p>&mdash; Brian Hamilton (@ChiTribHamilton) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiTribHamilton/statuses/402853016333586432">November 19, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Aka he is playing his way into a 5th year

ND NYC
11-19-2013, 02:16 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&amp;src=hash">#NotreDame</a> HC Brian Kelly on senior LB Kendall Moore: &quot;He's left...a favorable impression about where he's going, where he's trending.&quot;</p>&mdash; Brian Hamilton (@ChiTribHamilton) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiTribHamilton/statuses/402853016333586432">November 19, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Aka he is playing his way into a 5th year

feels like Kendall has been here for about 6 or 7 years already