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SoCalDomer
07-09-2008, 03:37 PM
Chance Carter - Defensive End
Evanston, IL Loyola Academy

HT: 6-4
WT: 235
GPA: 91%
Test: 23 ACT

Ranking
Rivals: :s::s::s:; NR WDE, Rating 5.6
Scout: :s::s::s:; #61 DE
ESPN: :s::s::s:; #54 DE, Grade 78


Statistics
'07: 64 Tackles, 5 TFL, 4 Fumbles Recovered
'08: 42 Tackles, 8 Sacks, 1 INT

Offers
Northwestern
Indiana
Nebraska

ND Recruiter: Rob Ianello

Decision: 10/18/09 Northwestern

SoCalDomer
07-09-2008, 03:38 PM
This kid is already receiveing a good bit of attention in the north. Lemming reports he will most likely be a national recruit by the time 2010 recruiting gets into full swing.

Reports are out that ND wants to get involved here early and may have given a verbal offer.

irishmarine
07-09-2008, 04:54 PM
i love how early they are talking to these kids. really lets them know that we like them and want them. its nice to feel the love

Legacy
07-11-2008, 02:06 AM
Rivals reports an offer.
Notre Dame Football: IrishIllustrated.com - Notre Dame Football (http://notredame.rivals.com/default.asp)

Epitome
07-30-2008, 06:30 PM
It is very likely that Chance will be a 5 Star next year. He was already invited to play in the Army All American game next year. Keep this name in mind.

Ultimate Penn St. Hater
07-30-2008, 06:34 PM
I like it.

SoCalDomer
09-02-2008, 01:49 PM
ND sent Chance a written offer this week.

IrishAddiction
01-04-2009, 04:07 PM
According to a poster on DD, his reaction to Lombards ND committment was quoted as him saying "Oh Sweet!". Random and little information, but what the hell, figured i would tell you guys.

Clausen2Kamara
01-04-2009, 08:46 PM
Ha nice IA..I see him coming to ND...our first standout DE to come since Victor.

irishmarine
01-05-2009, 03:57 AM
if that really was his responce then it sounds like he is excited to see his future team getting needed commits from needed positions. lets all hope that that was a sign he is commiting to the irish

wicket
01-05-2009, 06:23 AM
with the other option obviously being he really dislikes lombard and knows he isnt gonna be on the same team with him ;)

Denny
01-22-2009, 09:15 AM
Chance Carter will be at ND's junior day this weekend then visit Stanford in February and decide shortly after that. Looking good!

irishmarine
01-22-2009, 07:28 PM
positive thoughts...

Pinoy QB
01-22-2009, 09:04 PM
I like our Chance, get it!

OCIrish
02-04-2009, 10:22 PM
I'm hoping he commits to us as well. I love getting the Chicago kids again. It's something we had gotten away from, but with Ianello all over the Windy City scene, we've gotten some really good talent from there.

NDinL.A.
02-05-2009, 02:27 PM
From what I'm reading from 2 different sites, Chance is going to verbal early, and ND is in the lead. He's going to visit Stanford within 2 weeks, but it sounds like he's ND's to lose. We already have two 5*'s and a 4* verballed, and he would be another 4*. Plus we are on the radar of several of the top players in the country. Getting Chance would be an unreal start to what is shaping up to be possibly the top ND class ever (not exaggerating--it could be that special)...

Junkhead
02-05-2009, 02:36 PM
So you're saying there's a chance.....

NDinL.A.
02-05-2009, 02:54 PM
So you're saying there's a chance.....

YEAH!!! (I read you)

wicket
02-05-2009, 02:56 PM
So you're saying there's a chance.....

holy crap how many of these kinda jokes are we gonna have if the dude actually becomes irish and we have 4-5 years to actually make these jokes.

PADOMERNUT
02-05-2009, 04:14 PM
wait a minute, what was all that one in a million talk.....

IHateMarkMay
02-05-2009, 06:09 PM
Yeah, but we all know those 4 and 5 stars will drop because they are ND verbals...

IrishInFl
02-06-2009, 02:52 AM
Yeah, but we all know those 4 and 5 stars will drop because they are ND verbals...

Kinda like how Floyd dropped, er, wait...

IHateMarkMay
02-06-2009, 06:24 AM
Just like in every statistic, there are extremes. A lot of cases though, ND verbals do tend to drop. Look at Cierre and Shaq for instance.

bernbabybern820
02-06-2009, 10:19 AM
Just like in every statistic, there are extremes. A lot of cases though, ND verbals do tend to drop. Look at Cierre and Shaq for instance.

I fully expected Cierre to drop because of his quiet performance in the AA bowl practices as well as the game. Maybe not as much as he dropped but i thought the drop to 4 star was going to happen.

Jason Pham
02-06-2009, 01:17 PM
Profile updated.

Mjrosko
02-06-2009, 04:40 PM
How highly regarded is Chance?

Is he gonna be a five/four star or what?

Irish1587
02-10-2009, 04:06 PM
most projections i saw was an 4 star. Word is he was going to commit to us on his visit but the staff told him take his time and make the right choice. He has one visit left in Feb and from everything I Herd he wants his recruitment done by this month and is extremley high on us

irishmarine
02-10-2009, 04:14 PM
that would be great. our defensive recruiting is doing well. i just hope our offensive recruiting has as much promise. we already have a great tackle but i am still looking for another (hopefully the minnessota mountain)

Clausen2Kamara
02-10-2009, 04:32 PM
Wow. I'm very impressed how we are finally getting some diff makers on the D side of the ball!!

GOLDENISTHYTATE
02-10-2009, 07:12 PM
I hope this kid commits and about six others by tomorrow because Texas just had 10 kids commit in 2 days. Oh to be Mack Brown and sit on a goldmine of talent where you can tell Michael Crabtree "there is no room for you" and "Stafford thanks but no thanks". Jealous rant over.

Clausen2Kamara
02-10-2009, 10:33 PM
I'm pretty sure he wanted Stafford but I could be wrong...

irish4ever
02-11-2009, 07:47 AM
How highly regarded is Chance?

Is he gonna be a five/four star or what?

IMO, high enough (regardless of the star rating) that I hope he's all Irish!

NDinL.A.
02-15-2009, 03:43 PM
Looking more and more like he's a heavy Irish lean. Rivals just updated his site to show that ND is a 'high interest' whereas everyone else is medium interest. ESPU has ND at the top of his list as well. After he takes his visit to Stanford, and if they don't knock his socks off, then look for him to be commit #4 to ND within a month...

fightinirish68
02-15-2009, 04:37 PM
i wanna know why we cant go after guys like william gholston. 6'7 237 lb defensive end. 108 tackles 19 sacks 2 interceptions from d end. thats GREAT stats.

OCIrish
02-15-2009, 08:42 PM
Remember, just cause' they are great athletes, doesn't always mean they're great students. I don't know what his grades are like, but if they aren't worth a damn, then he's no good for us. Meaning he can't pass admissions.

mat33
02-15-2009, 09:36 PM
Is Chance being recruited as a DE/OLB like Neal or DE/DT like EJ?

fightinirish68
02-15-2009, 09:50 PM
i would imagine, due to depth, a true de

irishmarine
02-15-2009, 10:56 PM
great to hear he is leaning towards us. hope we can grab him and have him help recruit the area

NDsuperfan09
02-18-2009, 11:31 PM
i wanna know why we cant go after guys like william gholston. 6'7 237 lb defensive end. 108 tackles 19 sacks 2 interceptions from d end. thats GREAT stats.

Gholston is from the PSL in Detroit. I'm sorry but our track record there is terrible, plus the guy goes to a Michigan State pipeline and is a MSU lean. I know we heard the same stuff with Te'o but PSL kids don't go to ND. The academics are too shady in those schools and most kids want to stay in the Big Ten.

Irishlew
02-19-2009, 02:25 AM
i wanna know why we cant go after guys like william gholston. 6'7 237 lb defensive end. 108 tackles 19 sacks 2 interceptions from d end. thats GREAT stats.


Gholston is from the PSL in Detroit. I'm sorry but our track record there is terrible, plus the guy goes to a Michigan State pipeline and is a MSU lean. I know we heard the same stuff with Te'o but PSL kids don't go to ND. The academics are too shady in those schools and most kids want to stay in the Big Ten.

William Gholston has an Official Offer

fightinirish68
02-19-2009, 07:32 AM
William Gholston has an Official Offer

ha there it is! this guys huge and pretty good stats for a hybrid end.

fightinirish68
02-19-2009, 05:43 PM
it also wouldnt hurt if we could toss in our hat to fred harvey. he's from here in memphis and hes preetttty good ha

NDsuperfan09
02-20-2009, 01:18 AM
William Gholston has an Official Offer

Gholston also goes to a Michigan State pipeline school and lives with his coach who played football at MSU. Whens the last time we landed a player from the PSL in Detroit?

Irishlew
02-20-2009, 03:45 AM
Gholston also goes to a Michigan State pipeline school and lives with his coach who played football at MSU. Whens the last time we landed a player from the PSL in Detroit?

If memory serves Manti Te'o was a Hawaiian Polynesian LDS. When is the last time we landed a Hawaiian Polynesian LDS kid?

Why the hell you quoting me anyway...all i said was he had an official offer.

fightinirish68
02-20-2009, 08:59 AM
If memory serves Manti Te'o was a Hawaiian Polynesian LDS. When is the last time we landed a Hawaiian Polynesian LDS kid?

Why the hell you quoting me anyway...all i said was he had an official offer.

i would imagine big cousin vernon's school has a chance to snag him too

OCIrish
02-20-2009, 06:09 PM
How about we keep this thread for Chance Carter, I believe Vernon has his own thread.

The Polish Irishman
02-24-2009, 10:11 AM
Did Chance visit Stanford last weekend? I am pretty sure he said he was going to make a March decision.

irishmarine
02-24-2009, 10:46 AM
havent heard much asbout chance in a week or two. hope he is still an irish lean

IHateMarkMay
02-24-2009, 06:16 PM
Quite the GPA on this kid eh?

Irishlew
02-24-2009, 08:35 PM
havent heard much asbout chance in a week or two. hope he is still an irish lean

all indications are he's going to be our next commitment, probably by the B/G game.

big daddy
02-24-2009, 08:41 PM
I hope you're right irishlew. That would be a nice pick up for our defense.

irish4ever
02-25-2009, 07:30 AM
I hope you're right irishlew. That would be a nice pick up for our defense.

Agreed .... I really want him to commit to the Irish! Appears to have a lot of potential.

ndirish302000
02-25-2009, 12:54 PM
he has narrowed his list to ND, Stanford and Wisconsin with unofficial visits coming soon.

IHateMarkMay
02-25-2009, 06:44 PM
I am loving the chances.

Clausen2Kamara
02-25-2009, 09:43 PM
He is all ours from what I've heard.......

NDinL.A.
03-03-2009, 03:47 PM
What once looked like a slam dunk is now up in the air. Chance LOVED his visit to Stanford, and now has them as his leader. Everything about Stanford impressed him. Their boards are buzzing. He will visit Wisconsin this weekend. We have to get him out here for the spring game, and show him what ND is all about. He's big on education, which is one reason Stanford is so high on his list.

Kid's a good athlete, the kind of kid that we'd redshirt as he grows into his frame and gets better and better as his career advanced. Not a 5 star player, but the type of athlete we could really use down the line. I'd be dissapointed if we didn't get him...

irishmarine
03-03-2009, 06:25 PM
yeah he was supposed to be a lock... but how many times has that word been used incorrectly

Folsteam_Ahead
03-03-2009, 09:18 PM
stanford has an impressive setup out here in the bay. the new stadium helps make them seem more legit, but once he gets to ND and walks around campus, the stadium, and the gug...we'll be back on the top of his list come this spring. plus he'll be there with some other amazingly talented recruits. that's something stanford def cant boast.

let's start worrying if standford is still on top after his ND visit.

Clausen2Kamara
03-03-2009, 09:20 PM
Wow. Thats crazy. Hopefully when he visits ND he gets those same feeling he had again...

GOLDENISTHYTATE
03-04-2009, 01:07 AM
Hmm, play for a school that has a leprechaun for a mascot or for a school who's mascot is a tree? Tough choice. Come on Chance, come play for a school who's fans will support you no matter what!

Ultimate Penn St. Hater
03-04-2009, 11:03 AM
He said he's not planning to visit ND again before making his decision. I hope we land him, but it doesn't look too good right now.

Folsteam_Ahead
03-04-2009, 12:13 PM
ouch. so much for ND getting a rebuttal. hopefully people are just hyping up his reaction to stanford. either way the kid wins with a great education. it just depends on whether he wants to play for a legendary football program or not.

Ultimate Penn St. Hater
03-04-2009, 01:24 PM
ouch. so much for ND getting a rebuttal. hopefully people are just hyping up his reaction to stanford. either way the kid wins with a great education. it just depends on whether he wants to play for a legendary football program or not.

From the article, he seemed to hype Stanford himself.

Irishlew
03-04-2009, 02:17 PM
From the article, he seemed to hype Stanford himself.

exactly..he said Stanford is far and away the leader now.

IHateMarkMay
03-04-2009, 02:34 PM
So when do we officially lose him?

The Polish Irishman
03-04-2009, 04:11 PM
So when do we officially lose him?

U can't lose what you never had. 11 months to go until NSD, still a lot time to change his mind.

Polish Leppy 22
03-04-2009, 04:28 PM
DId he visit ND at all? Or did he visit Stanford and decide he doesn't need to visit anywhere else?

Irishlew
03-04-2009, 06:52 PM
DId he visit ND at all? Or did he visit Stanford and decide he doesn't need to visit anywhere else?

he's been to ND plently of times.

GOLDENISTHYTATE
03-04-2009, 07:01 PM
I thought he was going to be at the spring game? Either way, if he chooses Stanford, he's going to be sad when they are demolished by our boys in Paolo Alto come November. He will have wished he picked the Blue and Gold.

Polish Leppy 22
03-05-2009, 08:37 AM
USC will be saying the same thing about Manti, Shaq, and Cierre when the Trojans visit South Bend

Zorro50
03-05-2009, 10:37 AM
Did he change his name to no chance carter?

WabashFalcon
03-05-2009, 04:47 PM
Wow... the mood of this board switched faster than a NY tranny in post op...

OCIrish
03-05-2009, 08:34 PM
Wow... the mood of this board switched faster than a NY tranny in post op...

Yeah, it's amazing how fast things can change. I was reading over on rivals yesterday and was amazed at how many fans all of a sudden changed their tune to " I didn't really want him anyway, and he's not that good", I thought what the hell is this crap. It looked like a Michigan message board.

tko
03-05-2009, 10:27 PM
Yeah, it's amazing how fast things can change. I was reading over on rivals yesterday and was amazed at how many fans all of a sudden changed their tune to " I didn't really want him anyway, and he's not that good", I thought what the hell is this crap. It looked like a Michigan message board.

it's embarrassing

fightinirish68
03-05-2009, 11:09 PM
just the other day someone said theres no bigger of a lock than chance carter haha

irish4ever
03-06-2009, 07:28 AM
I thought what the hell is this crap. It looked like a Michigan message board.

:) scUM, I hate those bastards!

adsnorri
03-06-2009, 08:10 AM
I know i still want this kid, and i'm sure the staff does. There is a long time until NSD so with that said, we have a fighting chance at him.

IHateMarkMay
03-06-2009, 09:21 AM
I think all of this negative stuff on boards is somewhat of a coping mechanism. Trying to convince themselves about how they aren't that good, their competition isn't that good, or how they wont pan out in college. I guess if they say they didn't want him enough they start to actually believe they didn't want him in the first place.

NDinL.A.
03-06-2009, 09:55 AM
Yeah, it's amazing how fast things can change. I was reading over on rivals yesterday and was amazed at how many fans all of a sudden changed their tune to " I didn't really want him anyway, and he's not that good", I thought what the hell is this crap. It looked like a Michigan message board.

Yup. A sampling of things people on this board said:

great to hear he is leaning towards us. hope we can grab him and have him help recruit the area

That would be a nice pick up for our defense.

Agreed .... I really want him to commit to the Irish! Appears to have a lot of potential.

Come on Chance, come play for a school who's fans will support you no matter what!

It is very likely that Chance will be a 5 Star next year. He was already invited to play in the Army All American game next year. Keep this name in mind.

I'm hoping he commits to us as well. I love getting the Chicago kids again.

I think it's safe to say most of us pretty much wanted him. This board hasn't been nearly as bad as some of the other boards who have been quick to do what OCIrish was talking about, which is basically the Loser's Limp. ND fans saying that they really didn't want him in the first place is pathetic. I'll say what I said before, that I'm very disappointed to lose him, because he's the type of kid that can develop and be a force as an upperclassman. I hate losing any recruits that this staff thinks is ND material. Like someone else just said though, NSD is a long ways away, and plenty more recruits will come and go, and hopefully more will come and stay...

NDinL.A.
03-06-2009, 10:10 AM
Just went to his rivals site, and they had him listed at medium before, but they have him listed once again as 'high interest'. Who knows if they got some info to make them change it again, but I just thought I'd throw that out there. Plenty of time left still...

The Polish Irishman
03-06-2009, 10:47 AM
He still has not commited to anyone and I would love to get this kid. He is a player. We will know once the Blue and Gold Game if he has interest in the Irish.

IHateMarkMay
03-10-2009, 09:31 AM
One of scouts articles on the ND part is that Chance still has ND as his leader with the others following...
Notre Dame Fighting Irish Football, Basketball, and Recruiting Front Page (http://notredame.scout.com/)

The Polish Irishman
03-10-2009, 09:46 AM
So, they are saying there is a chance.

IHateMarkMay
03-10-2009, 09:51 AM
"What's with that one in a million talk?"

NDinL.A.
03-10-2009, 10:26 AM
Article says ND is in the lead again. Also says that Nebraska offered so he's going to take a visit there as well. Back and forth we go with this kid. I still think he ends up Irish but he's definitely one of those kids where I won't really think he's Irish until he actually signs (and even then I might be skeptical!:bbanana:).

Folsteam_Ahead
03-10-2009, 12:56 PM
this is all journalists getting fans into a frenzy over nothing. he's just checking out schools. he likes nd and stanford the most and now he wants to check out nebraska. big whoop. they're just facts, not front page headlines.

there's no reason to think his commitment wont be solid without that signature. we're 11 months from signing day. he's more than entitled to look at any school without us being skeptical. he may have positive things to say about nebraska too but that wont mean he's changed his mind like everyone thought after the stanford visit.

mooneytostle
03-11-2009, 03:57 AM
Article says ND is in the lead again. Also says that Nebraska offered so he's going to take a visit there as well. Back and forth we go with this kid. I still think he ends up Irish but he's definitely one of those kids where I won't really think he's Irish until he actually signs (and even then I might be skeptical!:bbanana:).

completely agree. Even if this kid verbally commits I will be skeptical until national signing day.

irishmarine
03-11-2009, 02:14 PM
im skeptical with everyone until nsd. its a defense mechanism now. hope for the best plan for the worst

Folsteam_Ahead
03-11-2009, 03:49 PM
i'm sure recruits are a bit skeptical of our program since we haven't put together a decent season since 2006. we have more to prove than they do. if we stumble out of the gates this year we'll lose lots of guys who were nd leans at one point.

NDinL.A.
03-12-2009, 10:09 AM
Just visited Nebraska. Said it was a good visit. Either it was only an OK visit, or he learned his lesson not to talk about how GREAT the trip was and how the new school was now the leader. He's getting looks from other schools now, like Illinois, but his top 4 are still the schools he's already visited: ND, Stanford, Wisconsin and Nebraska...

Folsteam_Ahead
03-12-2009, 12:20 PM
i think you're right about learning the ropes of what to/not to say. it would suck to be bombarded by the media at 17 without any interview experience.

Clausen2Kamara
03-12-2009, 07:16 PM
I still am really liking our chances...

WabashFalcon
03-13-2009, 12:19 AM
I still am really liking our chances...

So... you are telling me that there is a good oppertunity to land this individual. Perhaps a better option for the ability to land him.































Notice I am trying to say everything but Chance. HAHAHAHHAhahahahaahahahahahaha.....ha... Fuck I'm tired.

GOLDENISTHYTATE
03-24-2009, 07:50 PM
ESPN posted that Carter says he will only focus on the 4 schools that have offered him thus far: Notre Dame, Stanford, Wisconsin, and Nebraska. He has visited the first three and plans on visiting Nebraska in the near future. He also states that he plans to commit early, by May or so, and has no clear favorite. I am not sure of where this one will go.

Riddickulous
03-24-2009, 08:24 PM
I had heard his visit to Stanford made him a lock for the Cardinal. It's nice to hear he's still open to other opportunities.

SoCalDomer
03-24-2009, 09:26 PM
I had heard his visit to Stanford made him a lock for the Cardinal. It's nice to hear he's still open to other opportunities.

Chance was impressed with all of his visits. That's not surprising. I imagine the attention given to recruits on visits and the school putting their best face on is impressive to alot of recruits.

It is not surprising therefore that reports immediately after the visit would be good for that school. But after the post-visit shine wears off, and Chance considers all of the factors he is looking for (knowing that going to school there won't be a party everyday like it is on a visit), he seems to keep coming back to what a great opportunity going to ND would be.

I imagine ND will get serious consideration, just like he is giving to the other schools.

Clausen2Kamara
03-24-2009, 10:35 PM
Agreed Socal. I really do believe he will circle back to ND. He will realize that we are just as good at academics as Stanford and have a better football program...We also are a school who is close to home where his mom and pops could see him play. This is going to be an interesting recruitment to say the lleast.

WabashFalcon
03-24-2009, 11:48 PM
So... what you are telling me... is we have another chance for Chance? What was the chance of that chance for Chance?

fightinirish68
03-25-2009, 04:14 PM
i still say we have a chance

DirtySecret
03-25-2009, 06:07 PM
i still say we have a chance

They need to take a chance and run with it.

The Polish Irishman
04-08-2009, 10:21 PM
Chance was at practice today

OCIrish
04-08-2009, 11:20 PM
Yeah, he spoke with Coach Hart and Bryant Young introduced himself as well as spending time with Mendoza.

Irishlew
04-09-2009, 12:47 AM
sounds like good news

WabashFalcon
04-09-2009, 05:08 AM
So we still have a Chance?

















Neeeeeeeeeeeeeever gets old.

irish4ever
04-09-2009, 09:25 AM
Neeeeeeeeeeeeeever gets old.

Yeah, right!

DirtySecret
04-09-2009, 01:04 PM
So we still have a Chance?














Neeeeeeeeeeeeeever gets old.



A slim Chance, but a Chance indeed. Which is a Chance that I'm willing to Chance it all on.






Beat that!!! :)

NDinL.A.
04-16-2009, 09:32 PM
2 things:

1. According to Scout, Chance is now down to 3 schools, as he dropped Wisconsin from the list. He's visiting Nebraska this weekend and is really looking forward to it. Look for him to fall in love with them, put them at the top of his list, have every ND fan freak out, only to have everyone even again after 2 weeks of calming down.

2. Can we put a moratorium on all these bad 'Chance' puns? I think we've pretty much beaten that horse to death! I know I know, you think they're so cute, but just give my idea a chance before you shoot it down...

WabashFalcon
04-16-2009, 10:36 PM
2 things:

1. According to Scout, Chance is now down to 3 schools, as he dropped Wisconsin from the list. He's visiting Nebraska this weekend and is really looking forward to it. Look for him to fall in love with them, put them at the top of his list, have every ND fan freak out, only to have everyone even again after 2 weeks of calming down.

2. Can we put a moratorium on all these bad 'Chance' puns? I think we've pretty much beaten that horse to death! I know I know, you think they're so cute, but just give my idea a chance before you shoot it down...

Only if can give me a chance to rebuttle your discussion concerning Chance. Chances are that you would find it interesting to take a chance talking about Chance while taking chances on the stock market as of late...

fightinirish68
04-17-2009, 09:38 AM
the chance of us dropping the chance puns...well thats a slim chance to non

DirtySecret
04-18-2009, 05:29 PM
2 things:

1. According to Scout, Chance is now down to 3 schools, as he dropped Wisconsin from the list. He's visiting Nebraska this weekend and is really looking forward to it. Look for him to fall in love with them, put them at the top of his list, have every ND fan freak out, only to have everyone even again after 2 weeks of calming down.

2. Can we put a moratorium on all these bad 'Chance' puns? I think we've pretty much beaten that horse to death! I know I know, you think they're so cute, but just give my idea a chance before you shoot it down...

No Chance in hell!!

The Polish Irishman
04-20-2009, 05:06 PM
Any update on his visit to NE? Chance the visit was a 10?

NDinL.A.
04-20-2009, 05:13 PM
Enjoyed the visit, but was much more tempered in his comments. Yes. he said his visit was a 10, but that was about it for the over-the-top, I-love-this place-more-than-anything type comments. The rest of his comments were much more standard. Lesson learned, I'm sure. I'm sure it's still a 3 horse race between ND, Stanford and Nebraska...

BGIF
06-03-2009, 11:09 AM
not yet anyway.

DE Carter delays decision

Kurelic ESPN

Offer List still the same ND SU NU WIS IU
Short List still the same ND SU & NU


It's hard to say which one I liked better. I'm also looking at Boston College, and I might take a look at Michigan.

No leader

GOLDENISTHYTATE
06-03-2009, 03:42 PM
It is only June and this kid's recruitment has already been a roller coaster. I need to sit down

jason_h537
06-03-2009, 04:26 PM
hes just a kid who thought he would decide early then the roller coaster of recruiting got a hold of himand now he wants to sit back and make a decision. These are 16 and 17 year olds who are being courted by someof the biggest programs in the country and are getting attention that they never had before. let him take his time.

BGIF
06-04-2009, 03:32 AM
hes just a kid who thought he would decide early then the roller coaster of recruiting got a hold of himand now he wants to sit back and make a decision. These are 16 and 17 year olds who are being courted by someof the biggest programs in the country and are getting attention that they never had before. ...

Really? I don't think that's ever happened before.


He's got 5 offers not 50.

He's got "the same shortlist of 3" but he's not dropping the other two while adding ... "I'm also looking at Boston College, and I might take a look at Michigan."



Did you ever have to make up your mind
Pick up on one and leave the other behind
It's not often easy and not often kind
Did you ever have to make up your mind

Did you ever have to finally decide
Say yes to one and let the other one ride
There's so many changes and tears you must hide
Did you ever have to finally decide

Sometimes there's one with big blue eyes, cute as a bunny
With hair down to here, and plenty of money
And just when you think she's that one in the world
Your heart gets stolen by some mousey little girl

And then you know you'd better make up your mind...

Sometimes you really dig a girl the moment you kiss her
And then you get distracted by her older sister
When in walks her father and takes you a line
And says, "You better go home, son, and make up your mind"

And then you bet you'd better finally decide..


Paralysis by analysis leaves you in the station when the train pulls out.

If he doesn't make HIS decision somebody else will make it for him.

The Polish Irishman
07-23-2009, 11:51 AM
The South Bend Tribune is reporting Chance will visit ND again next week. So you saying there is a chance...........

NDinL.A.
07-23-2009, 01:04 PM
Yeah, I read that too and he had everyone's hopes up again that he might be in ND's plans again. Then ISD just reported that he told them he wouldn't be coming next week.

What a weird, weird recruitment this guy has gone through. Early offers from the likes of ND, about to commit to seemingly 3 different schools at different times, now complete silence. His recruitment is like the exact opposite of the late bloomers, like Jesse Scroggins. I really wonder if ND pulled his scholly, or made it 'unactionable'...

WabashFalcon
07-23-2009, 05:11 PM
So... we don't have a Chance?

BGIF
07-23-2009, 05:58 PM
So... we don't have a Chance?

No Luc either

Bubba
07-23-2009, 06:26 PM
I'm sure this guy is great. But ... Do we really need another DE in this class? We have 3 already. I know that there were some who said one of them could grow into a DT, which would be great. But, I'd sure be happier to see some action with DTs as far as recruiting goes.

BGIF
07-23-2009, 11:34 PM
I'm sure this guy is great. But ... Do we really need another DE in this class? We have 3 already. I know that there were some who said one of them could grow into a DT, which would be great. But, I'd sure be happier to see some action with DTs as far as recruiting goes.

Good question. As Lueders (240), Martin (240), and Utupo (250) are just entering their senior years they're probably going to arrive at ND at 255 -270. At 6-0 - 6-1, Utupo is the most likely candidate to move inside but depending on their growth and development either of the others could end up inside.

Ian Williams and Paddy Mullen each have 2 years of eligibilty left going into '09 but Hafis Williams, Brandon Newman, Sean Cwynar, and Tyler Stockton have all 4 years left. Ethan Johnson has 3 left.

At DE, KLM has 4 years, Neal and Wade each have 2 and Nwankwo 3. Ethan Johnson could play outside. Nwankwo could also "grow" to the inside.

Looking at the people and eligibility I'd add a DT and another DE. But is there room for Chance if Shembo says, "Yes" or if Moore is viewed as growing into a DE? They both have the potential.

BillyIrish
07-23-2009, 11:39 PM
where do we have Barr pegged? OLB? DE? RB?

BGIF
07-23-2009, 11:40 PM
where do we have Barr pegged? OLB? DE? RB?


Yes!

BillyIrish
07-23-2009, 11:41 PM
thats what i am sayiing. with Barr Shembo and Carter it is becoming a numbers game. It kind of sounds like Chance might be on the outside!

BGIF
07-24-2009, 12:00 AM
thats what i am sayiing. with Barr Shembo and Carter it is becoming a numbers game. It kind of sounds like Chance might be on the outside!

I raised the question with considering Barr. Whether he comes to ND or not I said some months back that I suspect he'll grow into a LB. In college he could well grow into a DE. IF he wants to stay at RB he needs to start dieting, now.

WabashFalcon
07-24-2009, 12:02 AM
So... when is Chance's last Chance to take a chance with ND?

jason_h537
07-24-2009, 12:41 AM
Think his Chance passed already. Shembo has his spot saved just in case. Utopo could certianly grow into a DT and Barr plays wherever he can make the biggest impact.

WabashFalcon
07-24-2009, 12:59 AM
Hell... I'd give Barr a scholly even if all of our DE spots are filled.

BCSorBust
07-24-2009, 09:34 AM
Hell... I'd give Barr a scholly even if all of our DE spots are filled.

I would too. Get him on campus and be honest that you'll play him where he earns his spot the quickest.

And then let him earn it at FULLBACK. Kid would be a beast at that spot and give us that weapon - I'm hoping Alldridge is that for the team this year.

NDsuperfan09
07-24-2009, 01:57 PM
I don't think we would take Carter at this stage. Shembo is likely to end up Irish within the next couple of months and that would mean 4 ends.

texas fighting irish
07-26-2009, 03:42 PM
Does anyone know if we pulled the offer from him my blue and gold mag dropped him from the offer list.

jason_h537
07-26-2009, 06:30 PM
I don't think the staff pulled the scholly but from reading recruiting sites it sound as if there have truned their attention to other recruits.

texas fighting irish
07-27-2009, 05:44 PM
I have heard mix reviews on carter that he is not that great of a player

NDinNM
07-27-2009, 05:59 PM
I have heard mix reviews on carter that he is not that great of a player

I dont know what to make of him either. Wisconsin pulled their offer from him and with less intrest coming from the ND coaching staff Im starting to think that he might not be as good as advertised

texas fighting irish
07-27-2009, 06:14 PM
so whos left for him stanford?

WabashFalcon
07-27-2009, 06:54 PM
Hey... a terrible showing at major combines can have this kid sink like a rock...

texas fighting irish
08-01-2009, 06:05 AM
Yeah that must have been a really bad showing.

The Polish Irishman
08-03-2009, 02:35 PM
Yes, there still is a chance

jason_h537
08-03-2009, 04:45 PM
Not if Shembo commits Tuesday

The Polish Irishman
08-03-2009, 05:05 PM
Per ISD:

Chance is visiting on Friday

WabashFalcon
08-03-2009, 07:18 PM
So... if Prince committs... and then Chance wants to commit... who do we move to DT/OLB?

jason_h537
08-03-2009, 07:20 PM
If Shembo commits we are done with Carter. Last spot is being saved for Anthony Barr

texas fighting irish
08-03-2009, 10:33 PM
So if Carter committed to us would we still take him?

NDinL.A.
08-03-2009, 10:39 PM
If Shembo commits we are done with Carter. Last spot is being saved for Anthony Barr

I don't think that's true Jason. Shembo is almost a foregone conclusion at this point the way ND recruiting guys are talking (of course, anything can happen). Even buddy Kendall Moore has said as much. If the ND staff was confident he was going to commit, why let Chance visit Friday if they don't have plans for him? This isn't Florida; CW and the fellas don't operate that way.

If Chance wants to commit, that takes up another spot and we're at 15 (if Shembo commits as well), but that leaves 10 more schollies and possibly more w/ a couple EE's. They'll be room for the D-Line commits, as Shembo is a hybrid and you always leave a spot open for a stud like Barr, no matter where you put him.

This will all play out in the end. And with the way Chance's recruitment has panned out, nothing will surprise me; even if he were to commit to ND or anyone else for that matter, I wouldn't feel good about that commitment until NSD...

texas fighting irish
08-03-2009, 11:40 PM
Carter has always been high on a school he just visited then changes his mind after he sees another school am i right about that?

The Polish Irishman
08-05-2009, 11:03 PM
According to ISD:

Chance does not have a chance with ND now, but things could change later in recruiting as we all know. So perchance there would be a chance later.

DirtySecret
08-05-2009, 11:08 PM
From what I read on other boards that Justin Utupo will probably be move to DT.. So that means if Chance commits to ND than they take him.

jason_h537
08-06-2009, 12:06 AM
Article on Rivals concerning his situation. Basically ND will take him if they have room, but it doesn't look likely. Kinda feel for the kid after reading it, i hope he has a monster senior year.

NDinL.A.
08-06-2009, 03:06 AM
Article on Rivals concerning his situation. Basically ND will take him if they have room, but it doesn't look likely. Kinda feel for the kid after reading it, i hope he has a monster senior year.

Yeah, me too, I feel bad for the kid. From his quotes, he sounded kinda bummed, almost embarrassed even. He had his chance at an ND scholly, but really wanted to do his homework, and he shot his wad at the same time. He simply isn't a Jeff Luc or a Chris Martin, where a scholly will be waiting for you no matter what. In the eyes of the recruiters, he's a good prospect that didn't jump in when he had the opportunity. You snooze, you lose, unfortunately for him. Now he has to open up his recruitment to new schools, while ND told him they'd be in touch as the season progressed.

Also, it's nice that the coaches were up front with him, unlike other Liars, errrrrrrr, coaches who shall rename nameless...

TexasNDFan
08-06-2009, 03:50 AM
Hopefully ND can take this guy, as the Giants has shown especially their Super Bowl year, you can never have too many pass rushing DE's.

Irish in Hudson
08-06-2009, 08:26 PM
I know these kids can get a big head when all the attention is turned to them--3 to 5 stars and everyone is your friend. Frankly, I blame the parents for not directing them to schools where they can maximize their earning potential after college, either from the NFL or the real world. If you think about it, there are only a handful of schools where you have a legitimate shot at the national title and get a superior education. While Stanford, Duke, Northwestern and Vanderbilt will give you a resume that opens doors, none have a prayer at the big prize. I'm not sure who is the closest to the Irish, but the bottom line is once they offer, and you aren't the type of player (and very few are) that they will hold a spot to signing day--better take it.

While I appreciate the fact that a young man doesn't want to commit just to "save a spot" and later break his word, there really isn't a reason to wait and find yourself playing for a lesser school.

jiggafini19
08-06-2009, 09:09 PM
This ship has sailed. Hopefully he winds up somewhere on a full ride and gets an opportunity.

His coach wanted him to commit to ND right away, and the guy is an Illini alum at that. Whether or not Carter wanted to enjoy attention, I don't know that for certain. If that is truly the case, lesson learned. Personally I think it is nothing more than speculation of ND fans that are basing it more on opinion than fact.

WabashFalcon
08-06-2009, 10:04 PM
Who knows... maybe we get a couple EEs... have an open spot near the end of the line... toss him a bone.

jason_h537
08-06-2009, 10:50 PM
Reading thearticle i pictured Booby from friday night lights when he gets in the car with his grandpa and starts crying, only he missed his chance at a free ride at ND. Hopefully everything works out for him and who knows with a solid senior year could end up in a ND uni anyway

BGIF
09-25-2009, 12:00 PM
September 25, 2009 by Bill Kurelic
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Illinois DE talking to Nebraska
Defensive end Chance Carter (Evanston, Ill./Loyola Academy) is primarily looking at four schools, Nebraska, Missouri, Northwestern and Cal. He said the Cornhuskers are the only one of the four that has offered a scholarship at this point.<!-- end free preview text -->

How do you not get an offer from Northwestern?

jason_h537
10-19-2009, 01:47 AM
Commited to Northwestern Sunday. Wish him the best.

tko
10-19-2009, 07:04 AM
good luck Chance. i love fitzgerald and he'll be getting a solid education.

JefMaj
10-19-2009, 07:59 AM
Good school - plays some second tier competition outside of conference - which has come to bite them. Won't see BCS Bowl or Rose Bowl. Big fish in a little pond - nice city. Get's to keep his family close. Close to the Cubs.

The Polish Irishman
01-24-2010, 11:21 PM
Is there a chance?

irish4ever
01-25-2010, 07:26 AM
Is there a chance?

No chance for Chance!

jason_h537
01-25-2010, 02:29 PM
We need DE's

GOLDENISTHYTATE
01-25-2010, 03:26 PM
I can't see this kid reconsidering us after we pretty much told him we had no room. Kids don't want to be second fiddle.

BGIF
01-25-2010, 07:02 PM
I can't see this kid reconsidering us after we pretty much told him we had no room. Kids don't want to be second fiddle.

Second Fiddle?

He's got 3 offers. He got selected to the USAA Bowl. Injured his ankle, played in the game but didn't improve his rankings. He actually dropped 6 or 7 slots on Scout and dropped into the Not Ranked category on Rivals.