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NDCrusader
04-10-2018, 09:59 AM
DE / OLB / TE
Port Huron, MI
Northern HS
https://i.imgur.com/6dRF7CH.jpg

Measurements:
6-5
255

Rankings 4-10-18:
247 Comp ..... NR
247 ............... 3* ..... #14 SDE ..... #339 OA ..... 84
Rivals ............ NR
ESPN ............. NR

Rankings 12-6-18:
247 Comp ..... 3* ..... #17 SDE ..... #349 OA ..... .8880 rating
247 ............... 3* ..... #14 SDE ..... #278 OA ..... 89
Rivals ............ 3* ..... #24 OLB .......................... 5.6
ESPN ............. 3* ..... #24 DE ....... #245 OA ...... 79

Offers:
Notre Dame
CMU
Michigan
Purdue
Toledo
WMU
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Bama
Clemson
IU
Iowa
Louisville
MSU
NEB
Northwestern
OSU
Pitt
UVa
Wiscy

Media Links:

Twitter = https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor

https://www.hudl.com/profile/8012697/Braiden-McGregor

Highlights:

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dublinirish
04-10-2018, 10:03 AM
visiting ND today per the D Zone

https://www.thedzone.com/news/port-huron-northern-2020-olb-te-braiden-mcgregor-is-visiting-d1-program-on-tuesday-story

NDCrusader
04-10-2018, 10:04 AM
Visiting today.

3.6 GPA

Had a nice Soph stat line:

11 G ... 98 Tkl ... 17.0 TFL ... 1 Sk ... 11 QBH ... 3 FF ... 3 FR ... 1 Int ... 3 Blk Pnt.

Athletic 2 way player with good size at this stage. Plays OLB/Drop on D, TE on O, nice blocking clip in his film.

NDCrusader
04-10-2018, 06:26 PM
Offered today per Matt Freeman

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2020 Port Huron (Mich.) ATH Braiden McGregor (<a href="https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BraidenMcgregor</a>) tells me <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> offered him after Tuesday's visit. <a href="https://t.co/LCepOy2pu5">https://t.co/LCepOy2pu5</a> <a href="https://t.co/BqDU5aykYt">pic.twitter.com/BqDU5aykYt</a></p>&mdash; Matt Freeman (@mattfreemanISD) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/983831648851628032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

NDCrusader
04-11-2018, 01:03 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">After a great visit, I am very humbled and excited to receive my 4th D1 offer from the University of Notre Dame. Thank you to the entire staff for making me feel at home. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoIrish?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoIrish</a> ☘️ <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachBrianKelly?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CoachBrianKelly</a> <a href="https://t.co/hMR0DTojax">pic.twitter.com/hMR0DTojax</a></p>&mdash; Braiden McGregor (@BraidenMcgregor) <a href="https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor/status/983845832897318912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

dublinirish
04-11-2018, 08:05 AM
Big time offer for him, his previous offers were mainly MAC schools and SCUM and Sparty haven't come in for him yet

NDCrusader
04-22-2018, 02:30 PM
First CB goes to Michigan from UM analyst, Ace Anbender.

Offered by UM yesterday

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So amazing be apart of this day and be there for his sixth D1 offer. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoBlue?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoBlue</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BraidenMcgregor</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TaraMcGregor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TaraMcGregor</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachJim4UM?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CoachJim4UM</a> <a href="https://t.co/BZb8vF2wX9">pic.twitter.com/BZb8vF2wX9</a></p>&mdash; Steeleigh McGregor (@steeleighmcg) <a href="https://twitter.com/steeleighmcg/status/987837642854359040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

dublinirish
05-08-2018, 02:18 PM
https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame/Article/Notre-Dame-Football-seeing-top-talent-in-Michigan-while-out-recruiting-118072336

According to a source, Irish Illustrated has been informed that defensive backs coach Todd Lyght will make his way to Northern high school to check in on McGregor on Tuesday. This comes after a recent in-school visit from Notre Dame defensive line coach Mike Elston. It’s clear McGregor is a priority for this coaching staff.

beryirish
06-05-2018, 09:28 AM
https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame/Article/Priority-2020-SDE-heading-to-Notre-Dame-this-week-118767971

Priority 2020 SDE heading to Notre Dame this week

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You’d be hard-pressed to find a more athletic strong-side defensive end than Braiden McGregor, who will arrive in South Bend later this week.

The 6-foot-5, 235-pound sophomore from Port Huron (Mich.) was a big-time producer in the fall, knocking out 98 tackles, 18 tackles for loss, a sack, an interception, three forced fumbles, three fumble recoveries, and three blocked punts.

dublinirish
08-13-2018, 02:28 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Port Huron Northern 2020 OLB/DE/TE Braiden McGregor (6'5 225) talks to The D Zone about his huge off-season (MSU, UM, &amp; ND offers), preparations for upcoming season, and much more.<br><br>To view the full interview, click on the link:<a href="https://t.co/dz2zX5QmIs">https://t.co/dz2zX5QmIs</a> <a href="https://t.co/czncq0nS31">pic.twitter.com/czncq0nS31</a></p>&mdash; The D Zone (@TheD_Zone) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheD_Zone/status/1027324366198108160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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arrowryan
09-02-2018, 08:30 AM
Loy and Wiltfong CB'd him to Notre Dame

NDCrusader
09-02-2018, 10:45 AM
Loy and Wiltfong CB'd him to Notre Dame

Did they say it's based on talking with him or is it just because ND won and he got to experience a big time atmosphere in South Bend?

If the latter, too many of these analysts give CB's based on a team winning a game when they visit. It's not like he's not going to see more big time atmospheres, he'll see Ohio St/Penn St/Mich St at the Big House... the team that most feel led up until last nights delicious loss.

NDMIA
09-04-2018, 03:46 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> made it abundantly clear to 2020 SDE Braiden McGregor that he’s a top priority during his visit on Saturday. (VIP)<br><br>“I could definitely see myself there and playing in the blue and gold.”<a href="https://t.co/Ss84q11Ufu">https://t.co/Ss84q11Ufu</a> <a href="https://t.co/A8MGuV5GO9">pic.twitter.com/A8MGuV5GO9</a></p>&mdash; Kevin Sinclair (@KevinSinclair_) <a href="https://twitter.com/KevinSinclair_/status/1036664049944080384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ND Football Recruiting | First College Game A Major Success For McGregor <br><br>“When I walked out on the field with my family and coaches, I was like, ‘Wow. I could definitely see myself here.’” 2020 DE Braiden McGregor (<a href="https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BraidenMcgregor</a>) <br> <a href="https://t.co/JJGIxfGAgx">https://t.co/JJGIxfGAgx</a></p>&mdash; Matt Freeman (@mattfreemanISD) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/1036704222367154181?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2020 DE Braiden McGregor (<a href="https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BraidenMcgregor</a>) had heard plenty about game day in South Bend heading into his visit this past weekend.<br><br>He was not disappointed. <br><br>McGregor went in-depth with BGI about the trip and more.<a href="https://t.co/2WARwnXH8b">https://t.co/2WARwnXH8b</a></p>&mdash; Corey Bodden (@BGI_CoreyBodden) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_CoreyBodden/status/1036971543304327173?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Last 3 CB's for McGregor:
Tom Loy - ND CB
Derrell Hart - ND CB
Steve Wiltfong - ND CB

dublinirish
09-06-2018, 02:38 PM
offered by louisville and pitt

ab2cmiller
09-06-2018, 02:50 PM
offered by louisville and pitt

This one is over before it ever started. BVG is a closer.

NDCrusader
09-06-2018, 02:57 PM
This one is over before it ever started. BVG is a closer.

Closer to getting fired. Even Diaco held Bama under 50 and he doesn't have a DC job.

Oh and BTW, McGregor's been eating his Wheaties.

ab2cmiller
10-26-2018, 09:38 AM
ISD freebie offering some insights as to some 2020 Defensive Recruits
https://irishsportsdaily.com/s/7563/2020-defensive-outlook

The Illinois native had been to South Bend multiple times, but the season-opener against Michigan was his first college game and it was eye-opening. The Irish are in a great spot as his family is fond of the school and Mike Elston. Notre Dame has done a fine job of making him feel both comfortable and a priority. Michigan is likely the biggest competition and he was in Ann Arbor earlier this month, although Ohio State could quickly become a factor after offering earlier this month. McGregor is expected in East Lansing this weekend as well, so Michigan State is in the mix too. He’s talked about potentially committing in January or during the spring as he’s starting to get increased clarity after previously talking about wanting to use officials to see different parts of the country.

NDCrusader
11-14-2018, 03:53 PM
Sinclair CB for ND.

Visited again for FSU.

So it's him, Loy, Wiltfong and some nobody for ND

vs.

Anbender (MI) and Trieu with older Michigan CB's.

When Trieu flips, the end is near.

I didn't think they would land Mills & McGregor but it sure looks that way now.

Add Kaden Johnson and I'll be thrilled. I think Mills slides inside to become the stretch DT like Jillery.

Luckylucci
11-14-2018, 04:39 PM
Sinclair CB for ND.

Visited again for FSU.

So it's him, Loy, Wiltfong and some nobody for ND

vs.

Anbender (MI) and Trieu with older Michigan CB's.

When Trieu flips, the end is near.

I didn't think they would land Mills & McGregor but it sure looks that way now.

Add Kaden Johnson and I'll be thrilled. I think Mills slides inside to become the stretch DT like Jillery.

Moved up his timeline to the Spring as he said he still wants to be able to take some OV's but is nearing a decision. We do seem to be in a good spot as of now. My only hesitation is I do think UM might being discounted a little more than what 247 is letting on.

Surprised they didn't offer Kaden on his visit. As, I think they have underrecruited the Drop position as of today. Mostly because I think most of the "drop" prospects we look good for, aren't going to be Drop DE's for very long. Mainly McGregor and Logan Redding.

I agree, I think his best long term position is a 3-4 DE/4-5T. Which he'd play here from time to time like Lea has done this year. But, in this base scheme he'd be a 3T.

NDMIA
11-14-2018, 10:12 PM
Moved up his timeline to the Spring as he said he still wants to be able to take some OV's but is nearing a decision. We do seem to be in a good spot as of now. My only hesitation is I do think UM might being discounted a little more than what 247 is letting on.

Surprised they didn't offer Kaden on his visit. As, I think they have underrecruited the Drop position as of today. Mostly because I think most of the "drop" prospects we look good for, aren't going to be Drop DE's for very long. Mainly McGregor and Logan Redding.

I agree, I think his best long term position is a 3-4 DE/4-5T. Which he'd play here from time to time like Lea has done this year. But, in this base scheme he'd be a 3T.

2 DTs, 3 DEs in 2020, thats what Im calling as the needs

DTs
.9503 4* Cole Brevard
.9485 4* Rylie Mills
.9141 4* Jordan Butler
.9082 4* Denver Warren
.8986 3* Aidan Keanaaina

DEs
.9784 4* Darrion Henry
.9746 4* Jacolbe Cowan
.9521 4* Tyler Baron
.9406 4* Kaden Johnson
.9128 4* Xavier Carlton
.8880 3* Braiden McGregor
.8700 3* Jalen Logan-Redding

Not a bad looking group of top prospects. Id love it if they offered a couple more guys like Denver Warren and Kaden Johnson, but theyre doing work on their top of the board dudes. DT looks really strong once again. I hope they start off with Rylie Mills, Aidan Keanaaina, and Braiden McGregor in the class. That would be a sensational start and then theyd have to look for 2 more DEs probably. I think Xavier Carlton has a surprising amount of interest in ND and Tyler Baron needs to drive up to campus and have his eyes opened!

Naz2002
11-14-2018, 11:32 PM
Cross Denver Warren off your list. I can promise you he won’t end up at ND.

NDCrusader
11-14-2018, 11:50 PM
Cross Denver Warren off your list. I can promise you he won’t end up at ND.

Come on man... spill dem beans. He got the Duke/Wiscy combo offer which screams qualifier. Does he openly not like ND - did a bridge get burnt?

Good luck against Batavia this weekend. I'll be watching if it's streamed. What do you think of Michael Jansey? If there was no Jack Kiser, I'd have been all over him.

NDMIA
11-15-2018, 12:28 AM
Come on man... spill dem beans. He got the Duke/Wiscy combo offer which screams qualifier. Does he openly not like ND - did a bridge get burnt?

Good luck against Batavia this weekend. I'll be watching if it's streamed. What do you think of Michael Jansey? If there was no Jack Kiser, I'd have been all over him.

Im with you. BC, Duke, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin is not a terrible host of options academically. Hes also a talented player at a position of need and fits the mold of a NT that ND doesnt really have on their roster in terms of size (they had Darnell Ewell but he was a bust). Id love an explanation as to why he wouldnt ever be at ND.

NDIrish88
11-15-2018, 07:49 AM
2 DTs, 3 DEs in 2020, thats what Im calling as the needs

DTs
.9503 4* Cole Brevard
.9485 4* Rylie Mills
.9141 4* Jordan Butler
.9082 4* Denver Warren
.8986 3* Aidan Keanaaina

DEs
.9784 4* Darrion Henry
.9746 4* Jacolbe Cowan
.9521 4* Tyler Baron
.9406 4* Kaden Johnson
.9128 4* Xavier Carlton
.8880 3* Braiden McGregor
.8700 3* Jalen Logan-Redding

Not a bad looking group of top prospects. Id love it if they offered a couple more guys like Denver Warren and Kaden Johnson, but theyre doing work on their top of the board dudes. DT looks really strong once again. I hope they start off with Rylie Mills, Aidan Keanaaina, and Braiden McGregor in the class. That would be a sensational start and then theyd have to look for 2 more DEs probably. I think Xavier Carlton has a surprising amount of interest in ND and Tyler Baron needs to drive up to campus and have his eyes opened!

Are Mills and McGregor now ending up as 3tech? Isn't ND in need of SDE's? I assume they could play both.

NDMIA
11-15-2018, 10:13 AM
Are Mills and McGregor now ending up as 3tech? Isn't ND in need of SDE's? I assume they could play both.

McGregor is listed at 65-66 and 230-250 on sites so I dont think theres a chance hes ballooning up to 65 295-305 during his career at ND. I think hell be a SDE at ND and a good one to boot. He could grow a bunch in terms of weight gain but I think Rylie Mills is the one doing that and hell probably shift inside if reports are true about him being already around 275lbs as a high school junior.

NDIrish88
11-15-2018, 10:24 AM
McGregor is listed at 65-66 and 230-250 on sites so I dont think theres a chance hes ballooning up to 65 295-305 during his career at ND. I think hell be a SDE at ND and a good one to boot. He could grow a bunch in terms of weight gain but I think Rylie Mills is the one doing that and hell probably shift inside if reports are true about him being already around 275lbs as a high school junior.

Thanks. That is what I thought too.

NDCrusader
11-15-2018, 11:48 AM
Im with you. BC, Duke, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin is not a terrible host of options academically. Hes also a talented player at a position of need and fits the mold of a NT that ND doesnt really have on their roster in terms of size (they had Darnell Ewell but he was a bust). Id love an explanation as to why he wouldnt ever be at ND.

Warren's 6-1.5 in cleats, not the optimistic 6-3 he threw out there on Hudl & Twitter. So he's right there with Franklin and Hinish.

I'm not on his bandwagon, I'm just curious why he's not a fit.

zelezo vlk
11-15-2018, 11:56 AM
Maybe he's trying to leave the Midwest

NDMIA
11-15-2018, 01:25 PM
Warren's 6-1.5 in cleats, not the optimistic 6-3 he threw out there on Hudl & Twitter. So he's right there with Franklin and Hinish.

I'm not on his bandwagon, I'm just curious why he's not a fit.

I meant weight. ND has...

RS SR Jonathan Bonner 64 295lbs
RS JR Micah Dew-Treadway 64 300lbs
SO Kurt Hinish 62 295lbs
FR JaMion Franklin 61 306lbs

When I posted the comment above I actually spaced on JaMion Franklin, but I mean like some more big dudes a la Louis Nix (62, 330lbs). Now I know the defense has changed and they are probably looking for more athletic dudes, but Im just wondering if ND would look for a guy in Denver Warrens mold whos probably playing in college at 61 315lbs which is a double team eater. Cause Bonner and Hinish are good but honestly dont know how great they are. I have a tough time analyzing 1T while watching a football game (I dont really look at that position).

ResLife Hero
12-06-2018, 05:23 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Game day!! <a href="https://t.co/3GiNkm8SZ2">pic.twitter.com/3GiNkm8SZ2</a></p>&mdash; Braiden McGregor (@BraidenMcgregor) <a href="https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor/status/1070792363558268928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 6, 2018</a></blockquote>
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NDCrusader
12-06-2018, 07:04 PM
OK, Mr McGregor's got some bunnies AND more importantly, some long arms.

For all you regular humans bound by the laws of gravity, play #1 is pretty impressive for a 6-5/240 something pounder.

Just moved up my ladder.

NDCrusader
12-06-2018, 07:07 PM
HOLD UP!

This is the definition of a DROP! Go to the 1 minute mark and watch. OMG.

New favorite '20 prospect. I'll be back when I get done with his hawkey highlights.

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Luckylucci
12-06-2018, 10:06 PM
Love the prospect, but I think he grows into a SDE. That frame will hold a lot of really good weight. I think we add McGregor, Mills, and another Drop

arrowryan
12-09-2018, 11:19 AM
Compared to what we already have in Okwara, he looks pretty slow to be a drop. I think he's a SDE all the way.

He's a really important recruit though. They will need to continue bring in quality defensive ends if they want to continue this success.

NDCrusader
12-09-2018, 11:35 AM
I wasn't saying he'll BE a Drop, just saying that he had the ball skills on that play. I've been on him as a SDE when the analysts were saying ND liked him at Drop potentially. He's gained a ton of weight just since ND got involved. McGregor's self reporting at 255 right now. He's gonna play @ 280+ in college if he's a real 6-5.

Gotta like Drop skills coming from a LB background, rolled into the strongside with length and plus athleticism. Ade Ogundeji has flashed at SDE and could be the starter in '20... McGregor is much more athletic than he was as a Jr.

Comparing anyone ND has been close to at WDE to Okwara is a waste of time. He's in a different universe.

arrowryan
12-09-2018, 11:40 AM
I wasn't saying he'll BE a Drop, just saying that he had the ball skills on that play. I've been on him as a SDE when the analysts were saying ND liked him at Drop potentially. He's gained a ton of weight just since ND got involved. McGregor's self reporting at 255 right now. He's gonna play @ 280+ in college if he's a real 6-5.

Gotta like Drop skills coming from a LB background, rolled into the strongside with length and plus athleticism. Ade Ogundeji has flashed at SDE and could be the starter in '20... McGregor is much more athletic than he was as a Jr.

Comparing anyone ND has been close to at WDE to Okwara is a waste of time. He's in a different universe.

I know comparing him to Okwara is unfair, but its just reality. Okwara is your prototypical Rush End in today's college football. He's fast, strong, and has gotten really good against the run as the season has progressed. Comparing McGregor and Okwara is comparing apples and oranges, but McGregor (if he was a drop) would be competing against the Okwaras of the world in practice.

IrishLax
01-23-2019, 01:08 PM
https://irishsportsdaily.com/s/8556/top-2020-notre-dame-de-target-braiden-mcgregor-updates-recruitment

Seems he is becoming a top of the board kind of guy.

NDIrish88
01-23-2019, 01:10 PM
He should be. His film and athleticism is ridiculous.

BeauBenken
01-23-2019, 01:27 PM
https://irishsportsdaily.com/s/8556/top-2020-notre-dame-de-target-braiden-mcgregor-updates-recruitment

Seems he is becoming a top of the board kind of guy.

Would have to be almost nuts to have 3 of the biggest programs in the land at your basketball game...and they're recruiting you to play football.

Henges24
01-23-2019, 01:32 PM
https://irishsportsdaily.com/s/8556/top-2020-notre-dame-de-target-braiden-mcgregor-updates-recruitment

Seems he is becoming a top of the board kind of guy.

What's Elko doing sitting next to BK?

NDCrusader
01-28-2019, 04:21 PM
Did Wiltfong back out of his ND CB on Sunday night?

If so, did he give any reasons publicly???

And why didn't anyone relay this? We get a bad development and no one cries about it anymore???

What's in thee hell is going on around here? I must be in the Twilight Zone.

zelezo vlk
01-28-2019, 04:33 PM
Is it because he was at Michigan last weekend instead of ND?

Luckylucci
01-28-2019, 04:36 PM
Did Wiltfong back out of his ND CB on Sunday night?

If so, did he give any reasons publicly???

And why didn't anyone relay this? We get a bad development and no one cries about it anymore???

What's in thee hell is going on around here? I must be in the Twilight Zone.

Looks like he went undecided, ?

Not that I've seen.

Progress, no need to cry about anything on January 28th.

NDCrusader
01-28-2019, 04:53 PM
Looks like he went undecided, ?

Not that I've seen.

Progress, no need to cry about anything on January 28th.

Oh no... we need freakout. It keeps me alive and laughing!

Luckylucci
01-28-2019, 05:02 PM
Oh no... we need freakout. It keeps me alive and laughing!

Then you need a 247 membership, that place is in a constant state of freakout. You'll be alive and laughing for a very very very very very....long time.

NDCrusader
02-01-2019, 11:27 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">💚 <a href="https://t.co/lvhMJeTimG">pic.twitter.com/lvhMJeTimG</a></p>&mdash; jersey (@jerseymcgregor) <a href="https://twitter.com/jerseymcgregor/status/1091505705063014400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

NDIrish88
02-02-2019, 08:02 AM
Lea and Elston to see him last night

Irish YJ
02-02-2019, 08:47 AM
that's some big offers for a 89 rated kid from MI

NDCrusader
02-02-2019, 09:55 AM
that's some big offers for a 89 rated kid from MI

He's not an 89, closer to a 99. He's a unicorn when it comes to athleticism. I was skeptical in the beginning and Mills was way above him on my board but then the interest/offers took off and you have to take note of that. Then I really started looking at his film and film of him from his teammates Hudl pages and he doesn't pull any Kevin Pyne's. But what has sent me over the top is his basketball highlights. This guy is way different. His explosiveness on these one step flushes are extremely impressive, especially for a guy his size. That's gonna translate.

These are guys that ND needs at this stage of the game, 5* athletes that have the potential to become gamewreckers, even if they aren't 5* rated yet, they never become a 5*, or haven't produced at 5* levels on the HS field or at summer camps.

ND has enough very good players on the roster that they can take chances. I don't think McGregor is a reach by any means but you know there are starwhore Irish fans that are WTFing ND paying so much attention to a 3*. I had to correct a pack of them elsewhere when they questioned why ND would waste its time on a 3* OT named Tosh Baker who plays in a football wasteland like Arizona, when they can get anyone they want.

Baker & McGregor are at the very top of my list for '20 at #1 & #2. Bijan Robinson is the only prospect that could top them but it's too early in his recruitment for that.

Irish YJ
02-02-2019, 10:33 AM
He's not an 89, closer to a 99. He's a unicorn when it comes to athleticism. I was skeptical in the beginning and Mills was way above him on my board but then the interest/offers took off and you have to take note of that. Then I really started looking at his film and film of him from his teammates Hudl pages and he doesn't pull any Kevin Pyne's. But what has sent me over the top is his basketball highlights. This guy is way different. His explosiveness on these one step flushes are extremely impressive, especially for a guy his size. That's gonna translate.

These are guys that ND needs at this stage of the game, 5* athletes that have the potential to become gamewreckers, even if they aren't 5* rated yet, they never become a 5*, or haven't produced at 5* levels on the HS field or at summer camps.

ND has enough very good players on the roster that they can take chances. I don't think McGregor is a reach by any means but you know there are starwhore Irish fans that are WTFing ND paying so much attention to a 3*. I had to correct a pack of them elsewhere when they questioned why ND would waste its time on a 3* OT named Tosh Baker who plays in a football wasteland like Arizona, when they can get anyone they want.

Baker & McGregor are at the very top of my list for '20 at #1 & #2. Bijan Robinson is the only prospect that could top them but it's too early in his recruitment for that.

yup. he had me at "McGregor" by the way. the dunking and rush/INT too.

Some Qs. 1) why the disconnect in ratings, and why are the services not adjusting better to the offers? and 2) did we ever find out about Fong's foggy?

zelezo vlk
02-02-2019, 12:09 PM
He's SDE or a drop? Wondering if he's more like Kareem or Okwara

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Luckylucci
02-02-2019, 12:21 PM
He's SDE or a drop? Wondering if he's more like Kareem or Okwara

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Hell end up as SDE.

GBdomer
02-02-2019, 01:11 PM
Michigan has for sure picked up mo hear the last couple weeks and pretty much tied it up with ND. Lorenzo said this is gonna be a typical ND Michigan battle for this recruit.

NDCrusader
02-02-2019, 01:26 PM
yup. he had me at "McGregor" by the way. the dunking and rush/INT too.

Some Qs. 1) why the disconnect in ratings, and why are the services not adjusting better to the offers? and 2) did we ever find out about Fong's foggy?

1.) Because the industry is full of analysts who don't know how to find/evaluate talent. Once the offers come, they must wait until their sponsored camps to give them a ratings boost. It's nothing more than a flock of mynah birds.

2. I haven't come across an explanation for it.

He's SDE or a drop? Wondering if he's more like Kareem or Okwara

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I don't know what he is right now. 95% of the time I'll call a 6-5/240+ Jr an SDE prospect but he might be a 5%er. I think he's athletic enough to play Drop and I think his participation in basketball and hockey give him advanced spatial awareness that the Drop needs.

It's pretty obvious ND's dream DL haul for 2020 is Ehrenberg, Mills, Keanaaina & McGregor. You just got an SDE commit so it's a lot easier to recruit McGregor as the Drop.

NDIrish88
02-02-2019, 01:59 PM
I think he could play both edges easily. Still think another 5 man DL haul is needed tho. I would add somebody like Jacolbe Cowan out of NC. Could be a Mills Spears type

zelezo vlk
02-02-2019, 04:16 PM
I'm gonna be pissed if the staff loses him to Michigan.

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Irish YJ
02-02-2019, 04:19 PM
I'm gonna be pissed if the staff loses him to Michigan.

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Do you really think he's the slumber party kinda guy?

Luckylucci
02-02-2019, 07:33 PM
We got a ways to go here so I wouldn’t get worked up about this just yet. He’s probably going to take quite a few more visits to the heavy hitters. ND, UM, OSU, Clemson, and Bama. So they’ll be a lot of informtation coming out of those.

Irish YJ
02-02-2019, 08:09 PM
We got a ways to go here so I wouldnt get worked up about this just yet. Hes probably going to take quite a few more visits to the heavy hitters. ND, UM, OSU, Clemson, and Bama. So theyll be a lot of informtation coming out of those.

thought he was making a decision jan-feb timeframe

Luckylucci
02-03-2019, 02:07 AM
thought he was making a decision jan-feb timeframe

Nope, Spring visits down south. Then Im sure hell return to the more local schools.

Rizzophil
02-15-2019, 12:17 PM
He’s visiting Mich again this weekend

NDinMI
02-18-2019, 11:17 AM
Hes visiting Mich again this weekend

And a Wiltfong CB for the bad guys this morning I believe.

NDCrusader
02-18-2019, 11:52 AM
Ugh.

I've always feared the... 'You'll be the next Chase Winovich' pitch. Easy to see and relate to.

IF ND really feels he's a long term Drop then he's a must get and they can't lose him. If he's another SDE, then they will be ok. But he's gonna be a 5* (he's a 5* on my list)... it'd be nice to stack em deep regardless if recruiting at the position is in good shape or not.

NDCrusader
02-18-2019, 12:05 PM
Lorenz just followed it up with another Skunk CB.

Feck.

NDIrish88
02-18-2019, 01:01 PM
Lorenz just followed it up with another Skunk CB.

Feck.

Wonder if the Ehrensberger commit scared him off? Honestly I hope ND takes 5 DL again if possible. Is Elston telling him he is a drop or that he he could play both?

irishff1014
02-18-2019, 01:40 PM
247 updated that Michigan is the hot team and Loy hasn’t changed his CB but it’s getting fogger.......

I’ll post a link when I get to the computer

NDCrusader
02-18-2019, 01:56 PM
247 updated that Michigan is the hot team and Loy hasn’t changed his CB but it’s getting fogger.......

I’ll post a link when I get to the computer

Wiltfong's: Crystal-Ball-Forecast-in-state-prospect-to-Michigan-Wolverines:
https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame/Article/247Sports-Crystal-Ball-Forecast-in-state-prospect-to-Michigan-Wolverines-129223455/

Loy's:
Latest-on-Notre-Dame-football-and-top-target-Braiden-McGregor:
https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame/Article/Latest-on-Notre-Dame-football-and-top-target-Braiden-McGregor-129231001/

Crazy Balki
02-19-2019, 05:49 AM
Not concerned. Still think he's ND's to lose.

Taking a lot of visits to narrow his decisions down, but I think ND is the best fit.

Irish#1
02-19-2019, 07:10 AM
Not concerned. Still think he's ND's to lose.

Taking a lot of visits to narrow his decisions down, but I think ND is the best fit.

But what does he think?

NDCrusader
02-19-2019, 08:55 AM
Not concerned. Still think he's ND's to lose.

Taking a lot of visits to narrow his decisions down, but I think ND is the best fit.

Not worried? That's why they call ya Crazy...

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/76226411.jpg
(probably)

Luckylucci
02-19-2019, 12:52 PM
With visits still to go, I think it's early to say he gone but this certainly isn't in our favor currently. Both ISD and 247 have mentioned depth chart as something Braiden is following closely. And I wonder if Ehrensberger and Foskey committing, within a week of each other, has something to do with this.

I'd certainly be disappointed to lose him to UM. But not sure how much exactly. It all depends on how the class finishes up. Some decent options on the board. Xavier Carlton, Jay Hardy, and Deontae Craig. None I like as much as Braiden but the DL class grade will still be quite good if we land guys left on the board.

NDIrish88
02-19-2019, 02:31 PM
With visits still to go, I think it's early to say he gone but this certainly isn't in our favor currently. Both ISD and 247 have mentioned depth chart as something Braiden is following closely. And I wonder if Ehrensberger and Foskey committing, within a week of each other, has something to do with this.

I'd certainly be disappointed to lose him to UM. But not sure how much exactly. It all depends on how the class finishes up. Some decent options on the board. Xavier Carlton, Jay Hardy, and Deontae Craig. None I like as much as Braiden but the DL class grade will still be quite good if we land guys left on the board.

Yeah if he is competing against Foskey and Nana that may make him reconsider, however Elston rotates dudes pretty well so I feel like that isn't an excuse.

NDCrusader
02-19-2019, 02:46 PM
If he's worried about anyone on ND's roster then he's not who I think he is and he doesn't know how good he is. Plus, Newberg, Ojabo, Hutchinson, Paye, Vilain and the others are a much tougher room than ND's once you subtract the Class of '16.

If he does end up at Michigan, I hope he gets stuck behind Gabe Newburg just so I can say, I told you so!... all over ther intrawebby.

NDMIA
02-19-2019, 03:33 PM
If he's worried about anyone on ND's roster then he's not who I think he is and he doesn't know how good he is. Plus, Newberg, Ojabo, Hutchinson, Paye, Vilain and the others are a much tougher room than ND's once you subtract the Class of '16.

If he does end up at Michigan, I hope he gets stuck behind Gabe Newburg just so I can say, I told you so!... all over ther intrawebby.

RS SR Adetokunbo Ogundeji
RS JR Kofi Wardlow
RS SO Justin Ademilola
RS SO Ovie Oghuofo
RS FR Nana Osafo-Mensah
RS FR Isaiah Foskey

SR Kwity Paye
RS JR Luiji Vilain
JR Aidan Hutchinson
RS SO Julius Welschof
RS FR David Ojabo
RS FR Gabe Newburg

I think the 2020 roster sets up to have Michigan with the better upperclassmen and Notre Dame with maybe the better young talent, but it is close. If he is looking at depth charts and playing time then how about Rashan Gary & Chase Winovich played a ton and didn't rotate much whereas Mike Elston and ND rotate a ton at DE and use 5-6 guys per game some times. If he's looking for earlier playing time, I think McGregor probably sees it at ND.

GBdomer
02-19-2019, 07:40 PM
Not concerned. Still think he's ND's to lose.

Taking a lot of visits to narrow his decisions down, but I think ND is the best fit.

All I needed to see, good news

dublinirish
02-21-2019, 09:27 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Port Huron Northern 2020 DE/OLB/TE Braiden McGregor was offered by Minnesota <a href="https://t.co/O88NWyC7ik">https://t.co/O88NWyC7ik</a> <a href="https://t.co/wQLKptoDhO">pic.twitter.com/wQLKptoDhO</a></p>&mdash; The D Zone (@TheD_Zone) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheD_Zone/status/1098588501770227713?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Crazy Balki
02-21-2019, 10:34 AM
All I needed to see, good news

Bear in mind, my word means jack sh*t. Just my opinion.

But it's definitely way too early to say he gone.

GBdomer
02-21-2019, 03:37 PM
Bear in mind, my word means jack sh*t. Just my opinion.

But it's definitely way too early to say he gone.

You truly never amaze me.

beryirish
02-27-2019, 01:34 PM
New Top247 (non-composite)...up 253 spots to #27

NDMIA
03-17-2019, 05:49 PM
4/22/18: Ace Anbender - Michigan
4/23/18: Allen Trieu - Michigan
9/1/18: Tom Loy - Notre Dame
11/14/18: Kevin Sinclair - Notre Dame
2/18/19: Steve Lorenz - Michigan
3/17/19: Steve Wiltfong - Clemson

Just to have a record of CBs. Wiltfong just CBed for Clemson after a visit on 3/14/19. Hopefully hes back on campus after his trip around the south. Lots of temptations down there.

NDIrish88
03-17-2019, 08:36 PM
This recruitment is really hearing up. Gonna be an uphill battle for ND. Wonder who plan B is? Donte Craig?

Luckylucci
03-17-2019, 08:49 PM
This recruitment is really hearing up. Gonna be an uphill battle for ND. Wonder who plan B is? Donte Craig?

Not sure there is one name at this point. Craig is probably part of the group. I think Xavier Carlton, Jay Hardy, and Cam Large are part of that group as well. I’d like to see Hardy visit and we’ll probably know more once Carlton visits.

JD Irish
03-17-2019, 09:40 PM
This recruitment is really hearing up. Gonna be an uphill battle for ND. Wonder who plan B is? Donte Craig?

It's okay. NDSean isn't concerned.

Luckylucci
03-17-2019, 10:01 PM
There are a few meltdowns on the horizon and we’ll still sign a productive/winning class. Happens every year.

Veritate Duce Progredi
03-18-2019, 06:47 AM
There are a few meltdowns on the horizon and we’ll still sign a productive/winning class. Happens every year.

As we lose a few players that were on the board:

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohzdMk3uz9WSpdTvW/giphy.gif

Then, everyone starts hitting this note about the staff:

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xUlPYpccWCV0nm/giphy.gif

Then people come back on to explain:

https://media.giphy.com/media/5Ggn55fHpqRY4/giphy.gif

NDIrish88
03-18-2019, 08:59 AM
Everybody knew that once the south started to offer it was gonna be tough to land this kid.

arrowryan
03-29-2019, 05:34 PM
OV at Notre Dame set for April 5-7. I don't have much confidence with this one, but you can't blame the staff for a lack of effort.

https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame/Article/Notre-Dame-to-host-Braiden-McGregor-for-his-official-visit-130663721/

Luckylucci
03-29-2019, 05:51 PM
OV at Notre Dame set for April 5-7. I don't have much confidence with this one, but you can't blame the staff for a lack of effort.

https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame/Article/Notre-Dame-to-host-Braiden-McGregor-for-his-official-visit-130663721/

Neither do I and I'm not sure I like the OV being that far in advance of his decision (expected in the summer). Kind of has me thinking the strategy is to go all out now in hopes of grabbing momentum and if that doesn't work, more time to recruit other options.

Luckylucci
03-29-2019, 05:57 PM
Not sure there is one name at this point. Craig is probably part of the group. I think Xavier Carlton, Jay Hardy, and Cam Large are part of that group as well. Id like to see Hardy visit and well probably know more once Carlton visits.

To update this, doesn't sound like Carlton is going to be an option going forward. Not much confidence that visit ever happens.

fightingirish26
03-30-2019, 02:00 AM
At least Rylie Mills and Aidan K will be there too

T-Boone
03-30-2019, 02:11 AM
All we need is the DEs to continue to progress, Okwara to get a first round projection and Michigan to have a garbage season and he is ours.

Irish Man3
03-30-2019, 02:31 AM
All we need is the DEs to continue to progress, Okwara to get a first round projection and Michigan to have a garbage season and he is ours.

He'll have decided long before then. Could have a decision as early as May but the plan is before his senior season.

Crazy Balki
03-30-2019, 11:02 AM
You're kind of underselling this. This visit is massive.

McGregor on campus with Mills and Aiden, and the whole family will be there.

GBdomer
03-30-2019, 12:01 PM
You're kind of underselling this. This visit is massive.

McGregor on campus with Mills and Aiden, and the whole family will be there.

pffftttt what? Who is saying this isn't a massive visit? Or you just stirring the pot?

Big23Head
03-31-2019, 12:47 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">First rep for 2020 four-star DE Braiden McGregor <a href="https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BraidenMcgregor</a>) at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheOpening?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheOpening</a> regional <a href="https://t.co/xYC4WCLmKH">pic.twitter.com/xYC4WCLmKH</a></p>&mdash; Matt Freeman (@mattfreemanISD) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/1112370409859661831?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Second rep for 2020 four-star DE Braiden McGregor (<a href="https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BraidenMcgregor</a>) at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheOpening?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheOpening</a> regional in Massillon. <a href="https://t.co/zPZIDdyvSb">pic.twitter.com/zPZIDdyvSb</a></p>&mdash; Matt Freeman (@mattfreemanISD) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/1112370818120671233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="eu" dir="ltr">DE <a href="https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BraidenMcgregor</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheOpening?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheOpening</a> Ohio <a href="https://t.co/QZlnweWSJE">pic.twitter.com/QZlnweWSJE</a></p>&mdash; Bill Kurelic (@Bill_Kurelic) <a href="https://twitter.com/Bill_Kurelic/status/1112379747110215682?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Big23Head
03-31-2019, 12:50 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2020 Port Huron Northern (Mich.) four-star DE Braiden McGregor (<a href="https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BraidenMcgregor</a>) vs. 2021 Avon (Ind.) four-star OL Blake Fisher (<a href="https://twitter.com/bfisher_54?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@bfisher_54</a>) in the Final 5. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheOpening?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheOpening</a><br><br>(1 of 3) <a href="https://t.co/b1wqfu6uNQ">pic.twitter.com/b1wqfu6uNQ</a></p>&mdash; Matt Freeman (@mattfreemanISD) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/1112394996089528326?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2020 Port Huron Northern (Mich.) four-star DE Braiden McGregor (<a href="https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BraidenMcgregor</a>) vs. 2021 Avon (Ind.) four-star OL Blake Fisher (<a href="https://twitter.com/bfisher_54?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@bfisher_54</a>) in the Final 5. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheOpening?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheOpening</a><br><br>(2 of 3) <a href="https://t.co/r4nUKWOoJH">pic.twitter.com/r4nUKWOoJH</a></p>&mdash; Matt Freeman (@mattfreemanISD) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/1112395165019394049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2020 Port Huron Northern (Mich.) four-star DE Braiden McGregor (<a href="https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BraidenMcgregor</a>) vs. 2021 Avon (Ind.) four-star OL Blake Fisher (<a href="https://twitter.com/bfisher_54?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@bfisher_54</a>) in the Final 5. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheOpening?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheOpening</a><br><br>(3 of 3) <a href="https://t.co/lZETYTfsme">pic.twitter.com/lZETYTfsme</a></p>&mdash; Matt Freeman (@mattfreemanISD) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/1112395292492681216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Crazy Balki
03-31-2019, 01:18 PM
pffftttt what? Who is saying this isn't a massive visit? Or you just stirring the pot?

I said you're underselling it.

ND is in very good shape right now with McGregor and getting him on campus with two potential linemates, and his family for an OV.

It's more about the mood of the thread, which is that we were fading on him (which I never agreed with).

That is gamechanging.

NDCrusader
03-31-2019, 01:22 PM
I said you're underselling it.

ND is in very good shape right now with McGregor and getting him on campus with two potential linemates, and his family for an OV.

It's more about the mood of the thread, which is that we were fading on him (which I never agreed with).

That is gamechanging.

Who would you take right now? ND or the field?

dad4aa
03-31-2019, 01:27 PM
Who would you take right now? ND or the field?

The field

Crazy Balki
03-31-2019, 01:32 PM
Who would you take right now? ND or the field?

Tough to say, because McGregor just finished his 2 week east coast tour of 6 different schools.

I'd say it's still down to ND or Michigan, with Clemson potentially being a team that sneaks in late.

But if this visit goes really well (which wouldn't surprise me), I'll definitely put down for ND over the field.

Irish Man3
03-31-2019, 01:42 PM
Tough to say, because McGregor just finished his 2 week east coast tour of 6 different schools.

I'd say it's still down to ND or Michigan, with Clemson potentially being a team that sneaks in late.

But if this visit goes really well (which wouldn't surprise me), I'll definitely put down for ND over the field.

I think there's a higher ceiling at DE and I think he knows that. Clemson and Alabama like him at TE which could put them a leg behind.

NDCrusader
03-31-2019, 01:53 PM
All good points guys. My extremely unscientific gut feeling says it's 45% UM, 40% ND, 15% the field. The Chase Winovich sales job scares me the most.

I expect this visit to go great and it's obvious to expect ND to be in it to the end... but I've gotta take the field.

koonja
04-01-2019, 09:36 AM
He just put out a top 10, but per Matt Freeman at ISD, the only teams that are in this are: Clemson, Michigan, Notre Dame, and Ohio State.

dublinirish
04-01-2019, 09:46 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">Top 10 <a href="https://twitter.com/GeauxEdits?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GeauxEdits</a> <a href="https://t.co/RgLQla5ZUl">pic.twitter.com/RgLQla5ZUl</a></p>&mdash; Braiden McGregor (@BraidenMcgregor) <a href="https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor/status/1112694227933245440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ndaccountant
04-01-2019, 09:54 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">Top 10 <a href="https://twitter.com/GeauxEdits?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@GeauxEdits</a> <a href="https://t.co/RgLQla5ZUl">pic.twitter.com/RgLQla5ZUl</a></p>&mdash; Braiden McGregor (@BraidenMcgregor) <a href="https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor/status/1112694227933245440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Addition of Florida at the end was puzzling to me. They were trending with alphabetical based on common name (example, Michigan vs University of Michigan) until the very end.

Irish Man3
04-01-2019, 09:56 AM
Look out for OSU here late. Making some moves the last few weeks.

zelezo vlk
04-01-2019, 09:59 AM
Since when has OSU been in this recruitment?

koonja
04-01-2019, 10:22 AM
Since when has OSU been in this recruitment?

I'm not sure, but Mattison moving to OSU probably helped them because they have a good relationship.

He said in an ISD interview the other day that there are 3 coaches from OSU he texts with daily.

zelezo vlk
04-01-2019, 10:25 AM
I'm not sure, but Mattison moving to OSU probably helped them because they have a good relationship.

He said in an ISD interview the other day that there are 3 coaches from OSU he texts with daily.

Ahh, you know what, I seem to recall reading that OSU would be in it more after Mattison moved to Columbus.

NDIrish88
04-01-2019, 11:30 AM
A few more Michigan CBs rolling in

NDCrusader
04-01-2019, 11:31 AM
A third Michigan Insider put in a UM CB today plus a meaningless one from Demetric Warren.

Most important here, neither Trieu nor Wiltfong have ND CB's.

Crazy Balki
04-01-2019, 11:39 AM
A third Michigan Insider put in a UM CB today plus a meaningless one from Demetric Warren.

Most important here, neither Trieu nor Wiltfong have ND CB's.

I think they're gonna wait until after the OV.

Irish#1
04-01-2019, 01:14 PM
Addition of Florida at the end was puzzling to me. They were trending with alphabetical based on common name (example, Michigan vs University of Michigan) until the very end.

You ever hear of a Top 9?

NDIrish88
04-01-2019, 03:03 PM
Don Brown pulled some BS out of his butt for this kid. Wonder if he changes his mind once Okwara and Kareem go off this season.

dublinirish
04-02-2019, 01:27 PM
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rtrn2glory
04-02-2019, 01:40 PM
hometown school making this a tough pull

NDCrusader
04-05-2019, 09:40 AM
Wiltfong with a CB this morning to ____________.

KizerWilhelm
04-05-2019, 09:42 AM
It was foggy.

Presumably it was Michigan before, so that’s good news.

NDCrusader
04-05-2019, 09:44 AM
It was foggy.

Presumably it was Michigan before, so thats good news.

So Loy and Vancouver are still ND at this time?

longliveautrydenson
04-05-2019, 10:00 AM
It was foggy.

Presumably it was Michigan before, so thats good news.

It may have been on Clemson, which could be bad news given all the recent Michigan CBs. His OV with Aidan and Rylie Mills is going to be huge. We need to pull out all the stops.

NDCrusader
04-05-2019, 10:22 AM
I've never done a 180 on a recruit like I have w/ McGregor. This guy is a physical beast. If you told me I could have him or Bryan Breese right now (for the Irish), I'd take McGregor.

5*BMac

NDCrusader
04-05-2019, 10:30 AM
It may have been on Clemson, which could be bad news given all the recent Michigan CBs. His OV with Aidan and Rylie Mills is going to be huge. We need to pull out all the stops.

It was on Clemson. Before that it was on Michigan in Feb and before that it was something else. So he's changed it 3 or 4 times.

longliveautrydenson
04-05-2019, 11:03 AM
It was on Clemson. Before that it was on Michigan in Feb and before that it was something else. So he's changed it 3 or 4 times.

Wiltfong flipped it back to Michigan. No bueno.

NDMIA
04-05-2019, 11:20 AM
4/22/18 - Ace Anbender - Michigan Insider - Michigan CB
4/23/18 - Allen Trieu - Midwest Analyst - Michigan CB
9/1/18 - Tom Loy - Notre Dame Insider - Notre Dame CB
11/14/18 - Kevin Sinclair - Notre Dame Insider - Notre Dame CB
2/18/19 - Steve Lorenz - Michigan Insider - Michigan CB
4/1/19 - Sam Webb - Michigan Insider - Michigan CB
4/1/19 - Demetric Warren - Ole Miss Insider - Michigan CB
4/1/19 - Clint Brewster - National Analyst - Michigan CB
4/5/19 - Steve Wiltfong - National Analyst - Michigan CB

For future reference to know what his CB looks like. Not a great look to get a Michigan CB the day he arrives on ND's campus. I think we'll see some movement after this weekend with Loy & Sinclair either moving away from ND or some analysts showing ND is making a move. Hoping for the latter.

Irish#1
04-05-2019, 01:16 PM
Everyone has scUM except the two ND guys. Go figure, especially with Loy.

Luckylucci
04-05-2019, 03:54 PM
Everyone has scUM except the two ND guys. Go figure, especially with Loy.

FWIW, there are some differing opinions on where the family wants him at. Those that are hearing ND still like ND. And those that are hearing UM think its UM. Not sure if it will come down to that but it seems to be coming up a lot.

D-BOE34
04-05-2019, 04:32 PM
Any chance JH is out at Michigan with 9 wins and a loss to Ohio State this year? That has to matter right?

Luckylucci
04-05-2019, 05:04 PM
Any chance JH is out at Michigan with 9 wins and a loss to Ohio State this year? That has to matter right?

Not sure that matters now, but it could in the future. He's definitely a prospect I'd continue to recruit. With that said, I'd bet they keep him around at 9-3. Now, if they go 8-4 or worse, then it could get ugly.

Valpodoc85
04-05-2019, 05:45 PM
Hairballs intensity wears on people with time. I would suspect the AD as well. With Urban out at OSU and Go Blue 3.0 on offense November could get weird if they have a couple of losses (especially to an upstart ND squad). Port Huron is Michigan like Muskegon is State

Henges24
04-05-2019, 06:15 PM
Any chance JH is out at Michigan with 9 wins and a loss to Ohio State this year? That has to matter right?

Don’t think so. I think he gets another year even if that happens. Probably his last straw though. Wouldn’t rule out him jumping.

Luckylucci
04-07-2019, 10:00 PM
His quotes to ISD were pretty convincing. Contemplated committing. Won’t get too optimistic but seems like the street might be wrong here.

T-Boone
04-07-2019, 10:02 PM
His quotes to ISD were pretty convincing. Contemplated committing. Wont get too optimistic but seems like the street might be wrong here.

You mean committing to ND?

Luckylucci
04-07-2019, 10:04 PM
You mean committing to ND?

On his OV where else would he consider committing too?

Yes, to ND.

stlnd01
04-07-2019, 10:05 PM
Dont think so. I think he gets another year even if that happens. Probably his last straw though. Wouldnt rule out him jumping.

I think Urban leaving OSU ups the pressure on Harbaugh to actually finally live up to the hype at Michigan. And they lose a lot of ballplayers on defense. Much rides on this new OC.

T-Boone
04-07-2019, 10:08 PM
On his OV where else would he consider committing too?

Yes, to ND.

I'd do that. Take an OV to Michigan then whilst there commit to ND. Thats my plan.

NDCrusader
04-07-2019, 10:12 PM
Did you guys know he only scored an 86 at the Opening Ohio?

I'm just putting this here in case he stays in the mitt.

T-Boone
04-07-2019, 10:16 PM
Did you guys know he only scored an 86 at the Opening Ohio?

I'm just putting this here in case he stays in the mitt.

slam the breaks

Rizzophil
04-07-2019, 10:27 PM
This is the stage of recruiting where I always think- are we going to have enough room for all of our wants?

Then I say - we never turn down elite talent. Lol

And then it always works out in the end ..even if we turn away a couple of good players

KyfightingIrish36
04-07-2019, 10:28 PM
Per the article he’s also felt the same way on visits to Bama and Michigan.

NDCrusader
04-07-2019, 10:37 PM
.

Luckylucci
04-07-2019, 10:41 PM
Per the article hes also felt the same way on visits to Bama and Michigan.

Different article, that was with 247, but yes he did say that.

greyhammer90
04-08-2019, 07:13 AM
I didn't get a great vibe from the 24/7 article. He said the right things, but it sounds like we're still just on par with his other top schools and they've still got officials and unofficial visits to pull away.

Irish#1
04-08-2019, 07:24 AM
Per the article hes also felt the same way on visits to Bama and Michigan.

This is more of a "bucket List" offer for McGregor IMO.

Veritate Duce Progredi
04-08-2019, 07:25 AM
If we get him, he's an exceptional talent.

If we don't, he's probably overrated.

Just covering both bases now.

NDMIA
04-08-2019, 02:58 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On my way to South Bend☘️ <a href="https://t.co/E0vDrPGPZC">pic.twitter.com/E0vDrPGPZC</a></p>&mdash; Braiden McGregor (@BraidenMcgregor) <a href="https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor/status/1114203887454621698?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2020 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> DT commit Aidan Keanaaina was back on campus on Saturday along with top 2020 targets Braiden McGregor and Rylie Mills. <a href="https://t.co/YcYqZDXVSq">pic.twitter.com/YcYqZDXVSq</a></p>&mdash; Matt Freeman (@mattfreemanISD) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/1114623318508879872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 6, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ND Football Recruiting | 2020 Four-Star DE Braiden McGregor Loves Notre Dame Official Visit <br><br>&quot;I really, really loved it. - <a href="https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BraidenMcgregor</a> <a href="https://t.co/aVLZaVHx9K">https://t.co/aVLZaVHx9K</a></p>&mdash; Matt Freeman (@mattfreemanISD) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/1115026204493357056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Elite DE Braiden McGregor nearly committed to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> during his official visit.<br><br>He spoke with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IrishIllustrated?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IrishIllustrated</a> about why he's so high on the Irish, his time with Mike Elston and Brian Kelly, and much more.<br><br>Story: <a href="https://t.co/kwmFW6tAk4">https://t.co/kwmFW6tAk4</a> (FREE)<a href="https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BraidenMcgregor</a><a href="https://twitter.com/247Sports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@247Sports</a> <a href="https://t.co/LYFlzzYL6B">pic.twitter.com/LYFlzzYL6B</a></p>&mdash; Tom Loy (@TomLoy247) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomLoy247/status/1115076686897405953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Veritate Duce Progredi
04-08-2019, 04:29 PM
Please let this happen because I don't want to hate him. Seems like a nice kid who could be a very valuable piece int he future.

beryirish
04-22-2019, 11:01 AM
https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame/Article/The-Notre-Dame-staff-to-visit-top-target-Braiden-McGregor-on-Monday-131394827/

Elston visiting school today.

NDCrusader
04-22-2019, 11:19 AM
Let's take a highly scientific IE poll... Will he be Irish, Yes or No?

Freeman, Loy & Sinclair all still say ND.

I'll side with Long Island analyst Paul Simon:

<iframe width="553" height="415" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZNt5FnMK2sM" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

koonja
04-22-2019, 11:21 AM
Michigan is even, or slightly ahead/behind depending on what you believe... And they have that last, summer visit. If he's that high, IDK how he comes out of that without being a skunkbear.

Hope I'm wrong.

greyhammer90
04-22-2019, 11:29 AM
Michigan is even, or slightly ahead/behind depending on what you believe... And they have that last, summer visit. If he's that high, IDK how he comes out of that without being a skunkbear.

Hope I'm wrong.

This is where I'm at. According to some, if he chose today he'd be Irish. But we're out of opportunities and Michigan still has their hand to play.

Luckylucci
04-22-2019, 11:29 AM
Sadly, I think it’s UM. Home state U wins out. Like VDP said, it’s going to suck to root against him.

koonja
04-22-2019, 12:22 PM
I think they're also going to play the "Rashan Gary" card really hard considering they're coming in with similar size, athleticism, and hype, and he'll have just recently been drafted ~top 15.

Who knows if that lands - but they'll say "you can take the same 3 year course".

Luckylucci
04-22-2019, 12:46 PM
I think they're also going to play the "Rashan Gary" card really hard considering they're coming in with similar size, athleticism, and hype, and he'll have just recently been drafted ~top 15.

Who knows if that lands - but they'll say "you can take the same 3 year course".

Maybe they do but there aren't a lot of similarities here. Rashan Gary was a DT that was misused at DE. He was 290 lbs. coming out of HS. McGregor is currently playing OLB and TE at 240. Rashan Gary was the #1 overall player in his class and thought of as a generational talent. While McGregor is a really good prospect, there is no where near the hype for him that there was for Gary.

Irish#1
04-22-2019, 01:14 PM
I asked and the answer isn't what we wanted.

https://i.imgur.com/afNdizz.jpg

Veritate Duce Progredi
04-22-2019, 02:47 PM
I think they're also going to play the "Rashan Gary" card really hard considering they're coming in with similar size, athleticism, and hype, and he'll have just recently been drafted ~top 15.

Who knows if that lands - but they'll say "you can take the same 3 year course".

Maybe they do but there aren't a lot of similarities here. Rashan Gary was a DT that was misused at DE. He was 290 lbs. coming out of HS. McGregor is currently playing OLB and TE at 240. Rashan Gary was the #1 overall player in his class and thought of as a generational talent. While McGregor is a really good prospect, there is no where near the hype for him that there was for Gary.

Read a lot of the reports about Gary, many people are saying there's concern because he didn't produce like he should've.

ND needs to play that card. Most of the top talent that goes to Fichigan fails to live up to potential.

rtrn2glory
04-22-2019, 03:35 PM
I'm saying he's going to Ann arbor

KizerWilhelm
04-22-2019, 03:50 PM
I'm saying he's going to Ann arbor

When we resume the series, you mean?

I agree he ends up a Wolverine.

NDCrusader
04-22-2019, 03:55 PM
100% so far that we're getting Loy'd... Actually we're getting KevLoy'd which ironically sounds like a non-stick product from DuPont.

Luckylucci
04-22-2019, 03:59 PM
100% so far that we're getting Loy'd... Actually we're getting KevLoy'd which ironically sounds like a non-stick product from DuPont.

While this seems to be the case, I have some reservations about saying 100% and that is Freeman's level of confidence. He's posted some cryptic things over the last couple of months, like there is information he's getting or things he's being told that don't jive with the flood of CB's towards UM. Until he flips to UM, I'm going to say it's 60/40 UM to ND.

GrangerIrish24
04-22-2019, 04:06 PM
While this seems to be the case, I have some reservations about saying 100% and that is Freeman's level of confidence. He's posted some cryptic things over the last couple of months, like there is information he's getting or things he's being told that don't jive with the flood of CB's towards UM. Until he flips to UM, I'm going to say it's 60/40 UM to ND.

In Matt Freeman we trust

NDIrish88
04-22-2019, 04:24 PM
100% so far that we're getting Loy'd... Actually we're getting KevLoy'd which ironically sounds like a non-stick product from DuPont.

I've been Fong'd and Loy'd but never Sinclair'd. Also known as Vancouver'd for out Canadian friends.

jerboski
04-22-2019, 04:41 PM
Matt Freeman is the one to watch on this recruitment, he has the goods with Braiden.... Matt still likes ND here but acknowledges it is really close. I will have some confidence we land him as long as Matt feels good

NDMIA
04-22-2019, 04:43 PM
Matt Freeman is the one to watch on this recruitment, he has the goods with Braiden.... Matt still likes ND here but acknowledges it is really close. I will have some confidence we land him as long as Matt feels good

Braiden McGregor
Rylie Mills
Jordan Botelho
Aidan Keanaaina
Alex Ehrensberger

That would be an all-timer of a DLine class potentially. Not the greatest ever but just really really impressive from top to bottom.

snoopdog
04-22-2019, 04:51 PM
I've been Fong'd and Loy'd but never Sinclair'd. Also known as Vancouver'd for out Canadian friends.

Whos Sinclair?

Luckylucci
04-22-2019, 05:04 PM
With or without McGregor, this is going to be a very good DL class. And when combined with the 19' class, things are looking up for many years ahead.

Pretty crazy to think back on this time last year and how obsessed we were over Nana. Now he might end up being the 2nd lowest rated DE commit over 2 cycles. Elston putting in work.

koonja
04-22-2019, 05:12 PM
With or without McGregor, this is going to be a very good DL class. And when combined with the 19' class, things are looking up for many years ahead.

Pretty crazy to think back on this time last year and how obsessed we were over Nana. Now he might end up being the lowest rated DE commit over 2 cycles. Elston putting in work.

Right, if we can get Rylie Millis and call it a class, I'd take it.

Wouldn't that be the German kid? Although I personally am high on him.

Luckylucci
04-22-2019, 05:20 PM
Right, if we can get Rylie Millis and call it a class, I'd take it.

Wouldn't that be the German kid? Although I personally am high on him.

Good catch, that slipped past me, was thinking of (Nana, Foskey, Botelho, McGregor, Mills). Pretty bad it did, since he's hilariously ranked at 1600+, lol.

NDIrish88
04-22-2019, 05:57 PM
With or without McGregor, this is going to be a very good DL class. And when combined with the 19' class, things are looking up for many years ahead.

Pretty crazy to think back on this time last year and how obsessed we were over Nana. Now he might end up being the lowest rated DE commit over 2 cycles. Elston putting in work.

I was devastated when EJ Holland changed his CB to Texas before he committed.

irishff1014
04-23-2019, 12:08 AM
Whos Sinclair?

One of the 247 guys.

zelezo vlk
04-23-2019, 12:11 AM
He's much more cautious in throwing out CBs too. He used to be active here, nice guy. I miss him, but glad everything is going well for him.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

dublinirish
04-23-2019, 08:34 AM
He's much more cautious in throwing out CBs too. He used to be active here, nice guy. I miss him, but glad everything is going well for him.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

he'd be nothing without us. WE MADE HIM.

koonja
04-23-2019, 09:51 AM
FWIW, he's visiting UM this weekend unofficially. Unless his plans change, he will not OV to Michigan.

Does that matter? Probably not, because he's been to UM 100 times. But he won't get the "official" visit treatment he got from ND, per ISD.

Unless of course he's saving his UM OV for a game - which could totally happen.

beryirish
04-23-2019, 10:12 AM
FWIW, he's visiting UM this weekend unofficially. Unless his plans change, he will not OV to Michigan.

Does that matter? Probably not, because he's been to UM 100 times. But he won't get the "official" visit treatment he got from ND, per ISD.

Unless of course he's saving his UM OV for a game - which could totally happen.

I would imagine UM can still roll out the red official visitor carpet even if he's taking an unofficial. The only difference is UM isn't forking out the dough to bring him in.

NDCrusader
04-23-2019, 10:20 AM
Matt Freeman is the one to watch on this recruitment, he has the goods with Braiden.... Matt still likes ND here but acknowledges it is really close. I will have some confidence we land him as long as Matt feels good

Allen Trieu is El Numero Uno when it comes to CBing, especially Michigan recruits. He says no soup for us.

I hope Matt's early confidence turns out to be right but he's softened his stance considerably as the time's passed.

rtrn2glory
04-23-2019, 10:23 AM
i'll be shocked if he's not signing with harbaugh tbh

Veritate Duce Progredi
04-23-2019, 11:49 AM
Michigan - where potential goes to die.

At least Braiden won't have to battle with high quality OL while he's at Michigan. And he can learn what it's like to lose to tOSU every. single. year.

Really wanted him in this class...

Luckylucci
04-23-2019, 11:53 AM
FWIW, he's visiting UM this weekend unofficially. Unless his plans change, he will not OV to Michigan.

Does that matter? Probably not, because he's been to UM 100 times. But he won't get the "official" visit treatment he got from ND, per ISD.

Unless of course he's saving his UM OV for a game - which could totally happen.

This is how I'd call it. Commits to UM and saves OV for OSU/UM at the Big House.

Southside Sully
04-23-2019, 12:04 PM
Michigan - where potential goes to die.

At least Braiden won't have to battle with high quality OL while he's at Michigan. And he can learn what it's like to lose to tOSU every. single. year.

Really wanted him in this class...

You my friend, are right by this article
https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/which-programs-best-develop-elite-prospects-a-five-year-study/

snoopdog
04-23-2019, 12:04 PM
This is how I'd call it. Commits to UM and saves OV for OSU/UM at the Big House.

That could end up being a very disappointing outcome for him

koonja
04-25-2019, 08:08 AM
Update with some quotes on ISD. I believe quites are shareable, so If someone wants to share them. To me it read like the signing of the Hawaiian Drop wasnt a good thing for us, and McGregor was skeptical of that.


The way I'm making it sound is worse than the overall article sounds, but this is the part that stood out to me. Someone feel free to share the link or quotes if you can.

Luckylucci
04-25-2019, 09:36 AM
Update with some quotes on ISD. I believe quites are shareable, so If someone wants to share them. To me it read like the signing of the Hawaiian Drop wasnt a good thing for us, and McGregor was skeptical of that.


The way I'm making it sound is worse than the overall article sounds, but this is the part that stood out to me. Someone feel free to share the link or quotes if you can.

Id say that was a rather bizarre read, not sure how to take it. Some positives like when he talks about relationships with ND players. But the position convo seemed odd. Apparently, Elston told him theyre recruiting both players for Drop and he wants him to have that spot. Which McGregor seemed confused about.

FWIW, McGregor recently measured in at 65.5 248 lbs and hes 17. For perspective, hes already bigger than our starting Drop, lol. Not sure I get the strategy of recruiting both for the same spot when you could very easily tell McGregor hes inline for 2 deep reps at SDE as a Freshman and a starting role as a Sophomore. Hell be 260+ in no time.

NDMIA
04-25-2019, 09:44 AM
Id say that was a rather bizarre read, not sure how to take it. Some positives like when he talks about relationships with ND players. But the position convo seemed odd. Apparently, Elston told him theyre recruiting both players for Drop and he wants him to have that spot. Which McGregor seemed confused about.

FWIW, McGregor recently measured in at 65.5 248 lbs and hes 17. For perspective, hes already bigger than our starting Drop, lol. Not sure I get the strategy of recruiting both for the same spot when you could very easily tell McGregor hes inline for 2 deep reps at SDE as a Freshman and a starting role as a Sophomore. Hell be 260+ in no time.

Id rather tell him that hes the second SDE with Ehrensberger than the second Drop with Botelho cause if he cares about playing time at all (most HS seniors do) then hell probably not like having to beat out Botelho whos an absolute stud. I cant imagine McGregor ending up at anywhere other than a 65-66 270lb SDE. If he did have concerns about Mills at SDE then you could mention that Mills is probably moving inside. Im with you LuckyLucci in that I dont understand the position view that ND is selling him on. I hope theyre able to come out with a win however they sell him.

GoldenToTheGrave
04-25-2019, 09:46 AM
Id say that was a rather bizarre read, not sure how to take it. Some positives like when he talks about relationships with ND players. But the position convo seemed odd. Apparently, Elston told him theyre recruiting both players for Drop and he wants him to have that spot. Which McGregor seemed confused about.

FWIW, McGregor recently measured in at 65.5 248 lbs and hes 17. For perspective, hes already bigger than our starting Drop, lol. Not sure I get the strategy of recruiting both for the same spot when you could very easily tell McGregor hes inline for 2 deep reps at SDE as a Freshman and a starting role as a Sophomore. Hell be 260+ in no time.

Yea I'm not one to question the coaching staff generally but it's a bit puzzling. And as much as I like having two pass rushing DE's (it's nice to have two+ starting quality ones) but having a jumbo DE is a nice asset as well. Can't think of one we've had since Rochelle.

Pops Freshenmeyer
04-25-2019, 09:51 AM
Yea I'm not one to question the coaching staff generally but it's a bit puzzling. And as much as I like having two pass rushing DE's (it's nice to have two+ starting quality ones) but having a jumbo DE is a nice asset as well. Can't think of one we've had since Rochelle.

I haven't ready anything outside of this board on the subject. However, it wouldn't surprise me if they were telling him it's going to be a wide open competition at drop in 2020 and he can get a shot at snaps there.

His long term future may not be at that position but it might still be his best chance to play as a frosh.

koonja
04-25-2019, 10:00 AM
Id say that was a rather bizarre read, not sure how to take it. Some positives like when he talks about relationships with ND players. But the position convo seemed odd. Apparently, Elston told him theyre recruiting both players for Drop and he wants him to have that spot. Which McGregor seemed confused about.

FWIW, McGregor recently measured in at 65.5 248 lbs and hes 17. For perspective, hes already bigger than our starting Drop, lol. Not sure I get the strategy of recruiting both for the same spot when you could very easily tell McGregor hes inline for 2 deep reps at SDE as a Freshman and a starting role as a Sophomore. Hell be 260+ in no time.

Not sure how you consider that a bizzare read. He spends considerable time, half of the article, talking about Jordan and the Drop position, and starts with 'skeeptical'. Clesrly he's thinking about it and what the commitment means for him.

At first I was kind of skeptical of it because they were having a linebacker play a defensive end position, recalled McGregor. It might not be good for me. Im a little bit bigger than him, but Coach Elston and Coach (Clark) Lea always tell me to better myself and stuff like that.

Coach Elston said Jordan would be doing a little bit of Drop and a little bit of linebacker. He wants to see what he and I form into because how we grow will determine how the defensive line will be in a year.

OCIrish
04-25-2019, 10:51 AM
I get the sense he's not sure about having to compete ....not sure I like that out of a recruit.......

NDCrusader
04-25-2019, 11:03 AM
Me as Elston:

Braiden, you and Bryan Breese are the two best DE prospects in the 2020 class. Let's not get caught up with the SDE/Drop BS, just know that I expect you to start as a Soph and move around... Weakside, Strongside & rushing from DT. If you have any questions, go watch Dan Hampton & Howie Long's HOF highlight films with your Dad and I think you'll get the picture because that's your skill set.

BMac: Hey coach, we watched those films and I'd like to commit now.

Veritate Duce Progredi
04-25-2019, 11:10 AM
Not sure how you consider that a bizzare read. He spends considerable time, half of the article, talking about Jordan and the Drop position, and starts with 'skeeptical'. Clesrly he's thinking about it and what the commitment means for him.

At first I was kind of skeptical of it because they were having a linebacker play a defensive end position, recalled McGregor. It might not be good for me. Im a little bit bigger than him, but Coach Elston and Coach (Clark) Lea always tell me to better myself and stuff like that.

Coach Elston said Jordan would be doing a little bit of Drop and a little bit of linebacker. He wants to see what he and I form into because how we grow will determine how the defensive line will be in a year.

Ultimately, none of this is really consequential. He's going to make a decision based on a multitude of factors. If he doesn't trust Elston/Lea, so be it. I'm very pleased with our current DL commits and I'd love to add Braiden but I can't waste too much time on a kid that likely wants to be a skunkbear.

NDCrusader
04-25-2019, 11:29 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ND Football Recruiting | Braiden McGregor Discusses <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Michigan?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Michigan</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> and Official Visits ($)<br><br>When I went to Notre Dame, I meshed with every guy I met. I want to see if there is a difference.&quot; - <a href="https://twitter.com/BraidenMcgregor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BraidenMcgregor</a> on his upcoming visit to Ann Arbor<a href="https://t.co/WD6JCgbYvI">https://t.co/WD6JCgbYvI</a></p>&mdash; Matt Freeman (@mattfreemanISD) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/1121235647975567360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Luckylucci
04-25-2019, 12:13 PM
Not sure how you consider that a bizzare read. He spends considerable time, half of the article, talking about Jordan and the Drop position, and starts with 'skeeptical'. Clesrly he's thinking about it and what the commitment means for him.
At first I was kind of skeptical of it because they were having a linebacker play a defensive end position, recalled McGregor. It might not be good for me. Im a little bit bigger than him, but Coach Elston and Coach (Clark) Lea always tell me to better myself and stuff like that.

Coach Elston said Jordan would be doing a little bit of Drop and a little bit of linebacker. He wants to see what he and I form into because how we grow will determine how the defensive line will be in a year.

Well the length that he talks about it has nothing to do with it being bizarre. It's bizarre in the sense that we are deep into recruiting this kid, just took a commitment from Botelho, and that didn't seem expected from Braiden or communicated very well. Arguably, the #1 defensive prospect seems unsure about the direction of recruiting. That seems bizarre to me.

NDIrish88
04-25-2019, 12:23 PM
Me as Elston:

Braiden, you and Bryan Breese are the two best DE prospects in the 2020 class. Let's not get caught up with the SDE/Drop BS, just know that I expect you to start as a Soph and move around... Weakside, Strongside & rushing from DT. If you have any questions, go watch Dan Hampton & Howie Long's HOF highlight films with your Dad and I think you'll get the picture because that's your skill set.

BMac: Hey coach, we watched those films and I'd like to commit now.

This is what should have been said. All they need to say is that your gonna start on the line ASAP. Jordan may start with him, play behind him or play linebacker.

BeauBenken
04-25-2019, 04:16 PM
Not sure how you consider that a bizzare read. He spends considerable time, half of the article, talking about Jordan and the Drop position, and starts with 'skeeptical'. Clesrly he's thinking about it and what the commitment means for him.

At first I was kind of skeptical of it because they were having a linebacker play a defensive end position, recalled McGregor. It might not be good for me. Im a little bit bigger than him, but Coach Elston and Coach (Clark) Lea always tell me to better myself and stuff like that.

Coach Elston said Jordan would be doing a little bit of Drop and a little bit of linebacker. He wants to see what he and I form into because how we grow will determine how the defensive line will be in a year.


You have the entire part about Jordan above. I wouldn't call it half of the article.

NDIrish88
04-28-2019, 10:44 AM
Andrew Ellis Michigan cb. Damn

greyhammer90
05-03-2019, 05:25 PM
Has he already done his Michigan unofficial or is it this weekend?

Irish Man3
05-03-2019, 05:59 PM
Has he already done his Michigan unofficial or is it this weekend?

He already went

GBdomer
05-05-2019, 12:25 PM
Freeman is for sure the guy to follow on this recruitment but there is some growing confidence that ND might just get this done. Loy still feels ND leads as of today and Josh Helmodt the rivals Midwest guy also picked McGregor to end up at ND

Luckylucci
05-05-2019, 01:32 PM
And I think the Mills commitment tomorrow could help a lot. Seems like the growing relationship with McGregor and Mills could be huge. They talk daily these days.

Veritate Duce Progredi
05-05-2019, 01:33 PM
Freeman is for sure the guy to follow on this recruitment but there is some growing confidence that ND might just get this done. Loy still feels ND leads as of today and Josh Helmodt the rivals Midwest guy also picked McGregor to end up at ND

I'm trying not to get excited about the prospect.

greyhammer90
05-05-2019, 01:45 PM
Freeman is for sure the guy to follow on this recruitment but there is some growing confidence that ND might just get this done. Loy still feels ND leads as of today and Josh Helmodt the rivals Midwest guy also picked McGregor to end up at ND

Yeah this is why I asked if he had already visited the other day. ND beat guys are still quietly confident about him even after the Michigan visit. McGregor, Mills, and Botelho would be a party in the backfield.

zelezo vlk
05-05-2019, 01:53 PM
Freeman is for sure the guy to follow on this recruitment but there is some growing confidence that ND might just get this done. Loy still feels ND leads as of today and Josh Helmodt the rivals Midwest guy also picked McGregor to end up at NDFWIW, Matt Freeman was saying this earlier in the week.

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Luckylucci
05-05-2019, 03:38 PM
I'm trying not to get excited about the prospect.

I was there until I read how close Mills and McGregor have gotten. I’m switching my uninformed and meaningless CB to the good guys.

GBdomer
05-05-2019, 05:18 PM
FWIW, Matt Freeman was saying this earlier in the week.

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I dont have ISD so I wouldnt know. I just know hes the guy on this recruitment

jspags10pg
05-05-2019, 05:39 PM
I dont have ISD so I wouldnt know. I just know hes the guy on this recruitment

I do have ISD and can confirm this. Freeman and Christian are on the ball on a good amount of recruits each year. Christian was all over the Nana recruitment last year. Those guys do good work.

rtrn2glory
05-05-2019, 06:47 PM
I do have ISD and can confirm this. Freeman and Christian are on the ball on a good amount of recruits each year. Christian was all over the Nana recruitment last year. Those guys do good work.

Do they both like our chances with mcgregor?

jspags10pg
05-05-2019, 08:05 PM
Do they both like our chances with mcgregor?

I don't want to give away anything from their premium stuff and most of it on McGregor is premium. But Freeman is the guy to follow on this one, I would say.

NDCrusader
05-05-2019, 10:53 PM
All the ND people think McG is gonna be Irish and you don't need to be a subscriber to know that. They b given that away 4 free.

DONTH8
05-06-2019, 12:42 AM
All the ND people think McG is gonna be Irish and you don't need to be a subscriber to know that. They b given that away 4 free.

Aren't the Michigan insiders saying they feel just as good though?

Me2SouthBend
05-06-2019, 07:47 AM
Aren't the Michigan insiders saying they feel just as good though?

Sure but they're all Wal Mart greeters so who cares.

NDIrish88
05-06-2019, 08:01 AM
All the ND people think McG is gonna be Irish and you don't need to be a subscriber to know that. They b given that away 4 free.

It also looks like it is split on both sites (Rivals/247). Holland and Driskell just dropped the futurecasts for ND. Futurecast, what a stupid name.

Irish#1
05-06-2019, 08:20 AM
It also looks like it is split on both sites (Rivals/247). Holland and Driskell just dropped the futurecasts for ND. Futurecast, what a stupid name.

Would you prefer "The Oracle"?

NDIrish88
05-06-2019, 09:58 AM
Would you prefer "The Oracle"?

I think anything would be corny. How about the "8 ball"?

NDCrusader
05-06-2019, 10:13 AM
I think anything would be corny. How about the "8 ball"?

Nope.

#1 has that trademarked, copyrighted & patented.

NDIrish88
05-06-2019, 10:26 AM
Nope.

#1 has that trademarked, copyrighted & patented.

How about the "Highest bidder"? Oh wait that implies too much truth.

NDCrusader
05-06-2019, 01:29 PM
As for McGregor. I have finally come to the conclusion that he will be Irish. I never thought that until the last 24 hours.

NDCrusader
05-06-2019, 09:02 PM
The biggest @ in Twitter history that didn't use the @ symbol.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Its a beautiful day to be Irish!!<br><br>Defensive Line looking!! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼<br><br>Need one more piece to the 🧩!!!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/boomboompow?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#boomboompow</a></p>&mdash; Mike Elston (@CoachMikeElston) <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachMikeElston/status/1125536967486312448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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05-06-2019, 09:14 PM
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BeauBenken
05-06-2019, 09:43 PM
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Irish#1
05-06-2019, 09:54 PM
I think anything would be corny. How about the "8 ball"?

Nope.

#1 has that trademarked, copyrighted & patented.

And has to be used judiciously to preserve its sanctity. Power of that kind in the hands of a mere recruit analyst would spell disaster.

GoldenToTheGrave
05-06-2019, 10:15 PM
McGregegor and Mills seem to have pretty similar skill sets, how many SDE's are we looking to take?

NDCrusader
05-06-2019, 10:19 PM
McGregegor and Mills seem to have pretty similar skill sets, how many SDE's are we looking to take?

Braiden is a Drop

- The Staff

They may display similar skill sets on football film but one look at McG's hoops tape and it's clear, there is a different animal lurking inside.

They both have future flexibility but Mills will be inside, McG at SDE, and Botelho at Drop most of the times until the sub packages move them around.

greyhammer90
05-06-2019, 10:22 PM
McGregegor and Mills seem to have pretty similar skill sets, how many SDE's are we looking to take?

Mills is likely a 3T. McGregor is either a WDE or a SDE. Most people on here seem to think he's a WDE based on comments, though in his film he looks more like an extremely athletic SDE to me.

NDIrish88
05-06-2019, 10:25 PM
Just put him anywhere and let him annihilate QBs

Veritate Duce Progredi
05-06-2019, 11:16 PM
Just put him anywhere and let him annihilate QBs

This. Just stack these incredibly talented players together and let them eat. I'm really floored by how well the staff is finally recruiting the DL. Next year's draft should help continue this trend.

rtrn2glory
05-07-2019, 06:42 AM
I'm trying not to get too optimistic with this one but it's hard not to with the last few days

Irish#1
05-07-2019, 07:13 AM
This. Just stack these incredibly talented players together and let them eat. I'm really floored by how well the staff is finally recruiting the DL. Next year's draft should help continue this trend.

You really have to wonder what caused the sudden change? Making it to the playoffs, the performance of the D-line last year, change in recruiting tactics? Regardless, this is good!

Veritate Duce Progredi
05-07-2019, 07:56 AM
You really have to wonder what caused the sudden change? Making it to the playoffs, the performance of the D-line last year, change in recruiting tactics? Regardless, this is good!

Like most things in life, I don't think it's related to any one thing. There are happen to be a large number personality fits in recent classes. The program is more consistent. The DL play has been very good and the defense as a unit, has been extremely good compared to prior years. First playoff appearance in the books.

I think all of this has to be appealing. If our DL has the year we expect in 2019, I think that bodes well for 2021 and beyond.

I really hope we can add McGregor, keep all the current commits and put a big ass bow on it. This class would compete with the Tuitt/Lynch/Ishaq class for most hyped DL class that I can remember and possibly the most complete/high-rated class in the Kelly era.

IrishFaninTX
05-07-2019, 09:16 AM
Like most things in life, I don't think it's related to any one thing. There are happen to be a large number personality fits in recent classes. The program is more consistent. The DL play has been very good and the defense as a unit, has been extremely good compared to prior years. First playoff appearance in the books.

I think all of this has to be appealing. If our DL has the year we expect in 2019, I think that bodes well for 2021 and beyond.

I really hope we can add McGregor, keep all the current commits and put a big ass bow on it. This class would compete with the Tuitt/Lynch/Ishaq class for most hyped DL class that I can remember and possibly the most complete/high-rated class in the Kelly era.

I think it would be better. That class really was not a fit even though they were all highly ranked players. Kelly has changed his tactics so to get a class like this while going after guys who can make it here makes this the best DL haul he's had.

NDCrusader
05-07-2019, 09:28 AM
Sometimes you just get lucky and have a group of guys who are ND RKG's. Couple that with ND finally going after those kids as early as their rivals and it works out. Offering early, I've harped about this long before my IE days. Do your research, identify your targets, hand offers out like candy & out work the other guys building relationships. It's simple.

BabyIrish
05-07-2019, 09:50 AM
If we are able to pull this off and get Braiden in the fold, then what a recruiting run the past two years. Great job by Elston and staff. However if you want to get depressed go look at what Clemson is doing for their d line this year. We don't even come close to comparing to the recruiting star power they have.

NDMIA
05-07-2019, 09:51 AM
Sometimes you just get lucky and have a group of guys who are ND RKG's. Couple that with ND finally going after those kids as early as their rivals and it works out. Offering early, I've harped about this long before my IE days. Do your research, identify your targets, hand offers out like candy & out work the other guys building relationships. It's simple.

Tied into that would be improved recruiting staff. Bill Rees is big time. Also the staff is better at recruiting. Brian Polian is a beast on the west coast. Mike Elston has always been good. Terry Joseph is excellent. Clark Lea is turning into a big time recruiter. Tom Rees is shaping up to be a special recruiter as well (locked down all good QBs and got Rylie Mills on board). Jeff Quinn grinds a lot more than Hiestand but the jury is still out until the dust settles on the 2020 class. Del Alexander is big time, Lance Taylor seems special as well. Lots and lots of big time recruiters on staff coupled with the earlier offering and all the things you mentioned and ND is moving up the charts in recruiting.

Veritate Duce Progredi
05-07-2019, 10:07 AM
If we are able to pull this off and get Braiden in the fold, then what a recruiting run the past two years. Great job by Elston and staff. However if you want to get depressed go look at what Clemson is doing for their d line this year. We don't even come close to comparing to the recruiting star power they have.

That's a recipe for depression. They've been pumping out high quality DL in the draft and winning nattys. There are two programs, maybe three, recruiting at that level right now:

Clemson, Bama, Georgia to some extent.

If you really want to be depressed, look at our DL recruiting during the prior decade. There were a few high marks but man, it was rough.

Kelly and staff are getting more highly rated players but more importantly, they are signing complete classes so we don't have glaring holes on the roster. Now, with that said, secondary has me most worried for this cycle.

We need to get some PTPers on board.

KizerWilhelm
05-07-2019, 10:18 AM
As for McGregor. I have finally come to the conclusion that he will be Irish. I never thought that until the last 24 hours.

I was also skeptical and I'm leaning that way too now. It'd be one thing if one or two were exuding confidence (especially Loy), but every Notre Dame beat reporter seems to think we'll win this one.

If we don't get him, it'll be because ND staff read things completely wrong and the reporters bought it. Which happens, see: Skoronski. But some of the statements (Elston's tweet, Loy: "I cant share everything on this front quite yet" (https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame/Article/Notre-Dame-Recruiting-Scoop-May-6-131813638/)) make it sound like they're sharing an open secret.

NDCrusader
05-07-2019, 10:30 AM
Tied into that would be improved recruiting staff. Bill Rees is big time. Also the staff is better at recruiting. Brian Polian is a beast on the west coast. Mike Elston has always been good. Terry Joseph is excellent. Clark Lea is turning into a big time recruiter. Tom Rees is shaping up to be a special recruiter as well (locked down all good QBs and got Rylie Mills on board). Jeff Quinn grinds a lot more than Hiestand but the jury is still out until the dust settles on the 2020 class. Del Alexander is big time, Lance Taylor seems special as well. Lots and lots of big time recruiters on staff coupled with the earlier offering and all the things you mentioned and ND is moving up the charts in recruiting.

Nothing wrong with Quinn's recruiting, just the opposite. He's great. When Tosh announces tomorrow all will be good. The guys he's "lost"? Christ and Skoronski... Guys I loved but from the outside Christ is a 3* OT and Pete's an undersized OT who has to learn the interior. People on the outside are like, so what... go get Carmody. Which he will finally.

Plus, in 2022 you'll look back and go, "How did Quinn pull that 2021 class inbetween 2019 and the best class in ND history... 2021??? Dude's a freak."

I was also skeptical and I'm leaning that way too now. It'd be one thing if one or two were exuding confidence (especially Loy), but every Notre Dame beat reporter seems to think we'll win this one.

If we don't get him, it'll be because ND staff read things completely wrong and the reporters bought it. Which happens, see: Skoronski. But some of the statements (Elston's tweet, Loy: "I cant share everything on this front quite yet" (https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame/Article/Notre-Dame-Recruiting-Scoop-May-6-131813638/)) make it sound like they're sharing an open secret.

McG is done too. Elston wouldn't have gone out on a limb with that "puzzle tweet" otherwise. Like Baker, we are in the Commitment Story Writing phase of the silent offer period.

The 3 ND services are doing a bad job this year holding their cards.

greyhammer90
05-07-2019, 10:32 AM
McG is done too. Elston wouldn't have gone out on a limb with that "puzzle tweet" otherwise. Like Baker, we are in the Commitment Story Writing phase of the silent offer period.

The 3 ND services are doing a bad job this year holding their cards.

Don't you break my heart like that.

rtrn2glory
05-07-2019, 10:41 AM
Don't you break my heart like that.

This....LOL

NDMIA
05-07-2019, 10:45 AM
Nothing wrong with Quinn's recruiting, just the opposite. He's great. When Tosh announces tomorrow all will be good. The guys he's "lost"? Christ and Skoronski... Guys I loved but from the outside Christ is a 3* OT and Pete's an undersized OT who has to learn the interior. People on the outside are like, so what... go get Carmody. Which he will finally.

Plus, in 2022 you'll look back and go, "How did Quinn pull that 2021 class inbetween 2019 and the best class in ND history... 2021??? Dude's a freak."



McG is done too. Elston wouldn't have gone out on a limb with that "puzzle tweet" otherwise. Like Baker, we are in the Commitment Story Writing phase of the silent offer period.

The 3 ND services are doing a bad job this year holding their cards.

I only mention jury is still out because this is literally his first full cycle at ND. I think when all is said and done and maybe he has a class of

.9672 4* Tosh Baker
.9416 4* Michael Carmody
.9207 4* Zak Zinter

People will start to understand how good he is at recruiting. I dont doubt his grind level being higher than Hiestand but I just want to see what he eventually ends up with. I think it will be pretty special by Dec 2021 when the 3 year haul is all signed, sealed and delivered. If they were to land the above 3 that would be 3 66+ dudes added to the roster which is absurd (maybe 65+ if they are lying about their heights but still).

Irish#1
05-07-2019, 10:45 AM
If we are able to pull this off and get Braiden in the fold, then what a recruiting run the past two years. Great job by Elston and staff. However if you want to get depressed go look at what Clemson is doing for their d line this year. We don't even come close to comparing to the recruiting star power they have.

Well they do have that waterfall in the football complex.

Irish#1
05-07-2019, 10:48 AM
Sometimes you just get lucky and have a group of guys who are ND RKG's. Couple that with ND finally going after those kids as early as their rivals and it works out. Offering early, I've harped about this long before my IE days. Do your research, identify your targets, hand offers out like candy & out work the other guys building relationships. It's simple.

These are probably the biggest pieces, especially upping the number of offers.

jerboski
05-07-2019, 10:49 AM
Nothing wrong with Quinn's recruiting, just the opposite. He's great. When Tosh announces tomorrow all will be good. The guys he's "lost"? Christ and Skoronski... Guys I loved but from the outside Christ is a 3* OT and Pete's an undersized OT who has to learn the interior. People on the outside are like, so what... go get Carmody. Which he will finally.

Plus, in 2022 you'll look back and go, "How did Quinn pull that 2021 class inbetween 2019 and the best class in ND history... 2021??? Dude's a freak."



McG is done too. Elston wouldn't have gone out on a limb with that "puzzle tweet" otherwise. Like Baker, we are in the Commitment Story Writing phase of the silent offer period.

The 3 ND services are doing a bad job this year holding their cards.

I think things are trending well for Braiden, but I don't think it is done by any means..... if so I would think you would see guys like Wiltfong making the switch immediately.. Steve and Loy still talk routinely so if this was known I would guess Loy would have informed Steve hence a CB change, that hasn't happened with Wiltfong

NDCrusader
05-07-2019, 10:53 AM
I think things are trending well for Braiden, but I don't think it is done by any means..... if so I would think you would see guys like Wiltfong making the switch immediately.. Steve and Loy still talk routinely so if this was known I would guess Loy would have informed Steve hence a CB change, that hasn't happened with Wiltfong

Or he isn't doing it because then everyone will know the deal and they are going to milk it as long as they can. I was around a group of analysts for one of the networks at Pinnacle last night and it's obvious to me. The network game is a scripted soap opera.

rtrn2glory
05-07-2019, 10:57 AM
Or he isn't doing it because then everyone will know the deal and they are going to milk it as long as they can. I was around a group of analysts for one of the networks at Pinnacle last night and it's obvious to me. The network game is a scripted soap opera.

without diverging too much, what's the percentage he ends up committing to the good guys??

ThePiombino
05-07-2019, 10:58 AM
without diverging too much, what's the percentage he ends up committing to the good guys??More than 0%

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NDCrusader
05-07-2019, 11:04 AM
without diverging too much, what's the percentage he ends up committing to the good guys??

Since nothing is guaranteed... 99%

Or at least the network types think so.

rtrn2glory
05-07-2019, 11:08 AM
Since nothing is guaranteed... 99%

Or at least the network types think so.

right. i hope him signing with the good guys carries a similar percentage.

jerboski
05-07-2019, 12:08 PM
Or he isn't doing it because then everyone will know the deal and they are going to milk it as long as they can. I was around a group of analysts for one of the networks at Pinnacle last night and it's obvious to me. The network game is a scripted soap opera.

No doubt, I hope it is locked and done.... Any idea on timeline of announcement, last I saw he was still wanting to use a few officials to see Florida, Bama, maybe Clemson and OSU

Luckylucci
05-07-2019, 12:15 PM
I'm skeptical he's a silent commit. DC Clark Lea spent yesterday visiting 3 DE's in GA. That would seem like a colossal waste of time if you already have a commitment from the "last piece of the puzzle". Now, I think we are in a really good spot but he hasn't told the staff he's in, at least yet.

rtrn2glory
05-07-2019, 12:19 PM
I'm skeptical he's a silent commit. DC Clark Lea spent yesterday visiting 3 DE's in GA. That would seem like a colossal waste of time if you already have a commitment from the "last piece of the puzzle". Now, I think we are in a really good spot but he hasn't told the staff he's in, at least yet.

are those 3 visits to dudes with offers?

Luckylucci
05-07-2019, 12:22 PM
are those 3 visits to dudes with offers?

2 do, Phillip Webb and Jared Ivey. 1 does not, Will Andersen.

Ndaccountant
05-07-2019, 12:32 PM
2 do, Phillips Webb and Jared Ivey. 1 does not, Will Andersen.

Webb and Andersen cannot be considered legit options at this point though, right? I thought Webb was essentially a gimmie for Dabo and Anderson is SEC bound.

Luckylucci
05-07-2019, 12:47 PM
Webb and Andersen cannot be considered legit options at this point though, right? I thought Webb was essentially a gimmie for Dabo and Anderson is SEC bound.

I wouldn't consider them legit options but the staff is still trying. Which tells me they aren't complete at the position, at least not yet.

It wouldn't surprise me if McGregor takes an OV or two this month and then commits. Maybe he's already told that plan to the staff and you could make the argument that is a "silent" commit. But, clearly the staff isn't treating it as such. For example, when Foskey was a silent, he didn't take any of the talked about visits because then ND would've recruited other players. So he gave a silent and locked up his spot (we needed a DE badly and didn't recruit anyone else), all while being able to announce when he wanted. McGregor cancelling his UF OV would be a start.