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ACamp1900
04-28-2007, 05:03 PM
Chime in people!!! There should be a few more of us round these parts after today...

:wink:

notredomer23
04-28-2007, 05:18 PM
phew you guys were lucky though.

stonebreakerwasgod
04-28-2007, 05:25 PM
acamp is a goofty goober.

Go Carson Palmer!!

notredomer23
04-28-2007, 05:28 PM
I am officialy a giant and browns fan.

ackirl
04-28-2007, 05:29 PM
It's going to be hard for me to start cheering for a team that has Kellen Winslow.

IRISHDODGER
04-28-2007, 06:15 PM
I'm definitely a Browns fan now but will wait to jump on the bandwagon based on what happens w/ Quinn. I've been sour on the NFL for some time now (it's tough when you don't live in a pro town) & could easily change my allegiance from the Bears to the Browns, but Quinn will have to be the franchise for that to happen.

leprechaun4life
04-28-2007, 07:33 PM
Yeah, its hard to like the NFL unless you have a team. In Texas, everyone is supposed to like the Cowboys, but I hate 'em, except Julius. I was kind of hoping Quinn would fall one more spot to KC.

ACamp1900
04-28-2007, 07:55 PM
Tru living and dying with Cleveland as a kid then KNOWING your boys are building a championship team only to have the buttpug of an owner leave town for no reason... and THEN see YOUR team win the Super Bowl in another city... it's been very hard to stick with teh NFL... If nothing else I have my Browns back, and while they were gone I guess you could say I gained three teams... My father's Packers, My Mother's Redskins and teh only local team, the Chargers... each are a distant second to my beloved Brownies...

irishfan
04-28-2007, 08:02 PM
It going to be hard for me to start cheering for a team that has Kellen Winslow.

But he's a soldier...

irish9331
04-28-2007, 08:03 PM
The Browns offical website is down right now

stonebreakerwasgod
04-28-2007, 08:05 PM
That has to be a first........

ACamp1900
04-28-2007, 08:24 PM
The Browns offical website is down right now

yeah I saw that... down all day

IrishAlum1997
04-28-2007, 09:13 PM
Call me a rump ranger, but I am a BQ fan. I will go out and buy my Browns hat, and they will be my team until he is traded away, at which time that will become my new favorite team. And until another ND QB brings us a National Championship, BQ will be the man.

Junkhead
04-28-2007, 09:25 PM
Call me a rump ranger, but I am a BQ fan. I will go out and buy my Browns hat, and they will be my team until he is traded away, at which time that will become my new favorite team. And until another ND QB brings us a National Championship, BQ will be the man.

Rump Ranger.

stonebreakerwasgod
04-28-2007, 09:31 PM
How about ass cadet?

IrishAlum1997
04-28-2007, 09:32 PM
Well fellas, I prefer anal spelunker. Gotta go finish my apple martini!

stonebreakerwasgod
04-28-2007, 09:34 PM
Hey, no fair! You gotta share the good stuff.

IrishAlum1997
04-28-2007, 09:38 PM
If you are referring to the apple martini as the 'good stuff,' then your are Captain Assdam.

One scotch, one bourbon, one beer!!!

Mattmags
04-28-2007, 09:39 PM
So, when do the Brady Quinn Jerseys start selling? Or maybe I'll get a Joe Thomas instead? nah.

IrishAlum1997
04-28-2007, 09:45 PM
So, when do the Brady Quinn Jerseys start selling? Or maybe I'll get a Joe Thomas instead? nah.

The line on the Browns shop page actually says "Get your Joe Thomas Jersey." Ummm.....might want to go with the other guy.

stonebreakerwasgod
04-28-2007, 09:50 PM
If you are referring to the apple martini as the 'good stuff,' then your are Captain Assdam.

One scotch, one bourbon, one beer!!!

Yes Sir, Major Butt Buddy!

ANY alcohol is classified as good stuff. except rubbing, which we might have to use later.

ACamp1900
04-28-2007, 10:38 PM
What happened to the Bengal thread????......

stonebreakerwasgod
04-28-2007, 10:39 PM
Hey now!

stonebreakerwasgod
04-28-2007, 10:41 PM
Bring it on bitch !!


I got more threads than picasso got paintings.

HereComeTheIrish
04-28-2007, 11:53 PM
It's going to be hard for me to start cheering for a team that has Kellen Winslow.

Bite your tongue woman...he's a "soldier"...Just ask him. He'll tell ya. ;)

I'm kidding and I'm not a Winslow fan myself, but happy Brady's one of us now!

IrishGirl10
04-28-2007, 11:57 PM
^^^ love the brady thing. that's awesome!

ColonialHead
04-28-2007, 11:59 PM
I grew up watching and supporting the Minnesota Vikings.
2 years ago when Zygi Wilf bought the team I stopped supporting them, as he is a new jersey land grabbing shyster with plans on moving them in 2-3 years when the lease expires at the metrodome.

Then they hired Brad Childress and exhibited a clear aversion to doing anything that could benefit the team.....

Then they changed their uniforms to that faggoty metalic purple/pink looking rainbow parade uniforms with yellow piping and officially became the biggest joke in the NFL....

So for the past 2 years I have had only one team to follow - The Irish.

It's nice to have an NFL team to support again.

Newc
04-29-2007, 12:17 AM
Lets Go Browns!

IrishAlum1997
04-29-2007, 01:09 AM
I grew up watching and supporting the Minnesota Vikings.
2 years ago when Zygi Wilf bought the team I stopped supporting them, as he is a new jersey land grabbing shyster with plans on moving them in 2-3 years when the lease expires at the metrodome.

Then they hired Brad Childress and exhibited a clear aversion to doing anything that could benefit the team.....

Then they changed their uniforms to that faggoty metalic purple/pink looking rainbow parade uniforms with yellow piping and officially became the biggest joke in the NFL....

So for the past 2 years I have had only one team to follow - The Irish.

It's nice to have an NFL team to support again.

I was certainly not looking forward to being 'forced' to cheer for the purple ass-pirates or the teal tuna-haters. It's too easy to make a homophobic reference regarding the 'Browns,' but at least their jerseys are cool. Go BROWNS, GO IRISH!!!

absoluteirish59
04-29-2007, 07:59 AM
I am officialy a giant and browns fan.
Ditto that for me kid!

stonebreakerwasgod
04-29-2007, 08:27 AM
Forgive them Father, for they have sinned. Go Skins and Bengals!

goldendomer
04-29-2007, 09:47 AM
good thing he went to a team with some talent around him....

stonebreakerwasgod
04-29-2007, 09:48 AM
Oh, you mean the bengal retreads? :)

Win4Gipper
04-29-2007, 10:18 AM
I am officialy a giant and browns fan.


Slow down the band wagon............I am hoping on too!!!!!

Screw the vikes and Brad Childress.....

Win4Gipper
04-29-2007, 10:21 AM
I grew up watching and supporting the Minnesota Vikings.
2 years ago when Zygi Wilf bought the team I stopped supporting them, as he is a new jersey land grabbing shyster with plans on moving them in 2-3 years when the lease expires at the metrodome.

Then they hired Brad Childress and exhibited a clear aversion to doing anything that could benefit the team.....

Then they changed their uniforms to that faggoty metalic purple/pink looking rainbow parade uniforms with yellow piping and officially became the biggest joke in the NFL....

So for the past 2 years I have had only one team to follow - The Irish.

It's nice to have an NFL team to support again.

Ditto........

stonebreakerwasgod
04-29-2007, 10:23 AM
I must admit, I might actually watch a few browns games to see my man brady. I do wish him all the best, except when they play cincy and the skins.

IrishGirl10
04-29-2007, 09:19 PM
I'm a Packers fan (don't laugh at me) but, I will be watching some Browns games to see Brady!

IRISHDODGER
04-30-2007, 12:12 AM
So, when do the Brady Quinn Jerseys start selling? Or maybe I'll get a Joe Thomas instead? nah.

Their website announced that you can reserve Quinn & Joe Thomas jerseys today, but they won't actually ship until their numbers have been determined. I think the replicas are like $80.

HereComeTheIrish
04-30-2007, 12:16 AM
Their website announced that you can reserve Quinn & Joe Thomas jerseys today, but they won't actually ship until their numbers have been determined. I think the replicas are like $80.

82 bones...my wife bought mine for fathers day. What a nice wife...

stonebreakerwasgod
04-30-2007, 12:19 AM
My wife wouldn't pay for my coffin. She's a keeper HCTI !!

IrishGirl10
04-30-2007, 12:31 PM
Brady's # is already determined. He is # 10.

82 bucks...wow.

Newc
04-30-2007, 12:47 PM
Sweet, I'm glad he gets to keep his number.

NDgettysburg
04-30-2007, 07:34 PM
Chime in people!!! There should be a few more of us round these parts after today...
When I'm not watching my team play, I'll be watching the Browns if BQ is under center.

ACamp1900
05-01-2007, 12:11 AM
When I'm not watching my team play, I'll be watching the Browns if BQ is under center.

good man getty good man

goirish#1
05-01-2007, 10:52 AM
Happy to see he keeps his number. THe Browns definately had the best draft. They got two of the top five players.

Ndaccountant
09-20-2018, 12:15 PM
Get ready for the beer fridge to open tonight....I can feel it.

ACamp1900
09-20-2018, 12:23 PM
Get ready for the beer fridge to open tonight....I can feel it.

Man, I'm trying to hold it back too... the last time I genuinely expected them to win a game was that kick return game against the ratbirds... I keep thinking, "If they lose this one idk wtf I'm going to do..."

please guys, it's WAY over due.

ACamp1900
09-20-2018, 12:31 PM
BTW, I had no idea there was a Browns thread on IE... what's worse is i created it, back in the time of the birth givers, in the long, long ago.

Ndaccountant
09-20-2018, 12:37 PM
BTW, I had no idea there was a Browns thread on IE... what's worse is i created it, back in the time of the birth givers, in the long, long ago.

Well, when all you do is give, give, give, it can be difficult to remember all our contributions, amirite?

ACamp1900
09-20-2018, 12:41 PM
Well, when you're a total post whore who clogs the forum daily with mindless garbage it's hard to remember random shit from ten years ago, right dumbass?

Damn,... Truth hurts.....

irishnd31
09-20-2018, 01:02 PM
Get ready for the beer fridge to open tonight....I can feel it.

https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Third-World-Skeptical-Kid.jpg

But for the sake of keeping this positive Browns vibe going, Ill hop on board with ya buddy. Go Browns!

ACamp1900
09-20-2018, 01:11 PM
I'm legit nervous like it's a big ND game.......

Ndaccountant
09-20-2018, 01:13 PM
Damn,... Truth hurts.....

http://l56spuxk1t14k3seci6s2bja-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2015/10/Oh-damn-GIF.gif

irishnd31
09-20-2018, 01:17 PM
http://l56spuxk1t14k3seci6s2bja-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/GIF/2015/10/Oh-damn-GIF.gif
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sctQLmlRu-M/maxresdefault.jpg


...Someone's holding a half pound of Aunt Betty's Nut Butter.

ACamp1900
09-20-2018, 10:39 PM
Where the hell has Collins been this year???? Talk about stealing money.

BeauBenken
09-20-2018, 10:48 PM
What took so long Cleveland? Baker is a dude.

BeauBenken
09-20-2018, 11:35 PM
OPEN THE FRIDGES!!!

Henges24
09-20-2018, 11:36 PM
Congrats ACamp

Irish YJ
09-20-2018, 11:36 PM
going to be some drunk ass people in cleveland tonight, and some unproductive work environments tomorrow.

NDdomer2
09-20-2018, 11:38 PM
I wanna see video of one of these beer fridges opening

Irish YJ
09-20-2018, 11:56 PM
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/4Xe3vyB5RS1oSi6IFPvOhIaf_gQ=/0x0:332x434/1200x800/filters:focal(134x79:186x131)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/61487211/Screen_Shot_2018_09_20_at_11.39.48_PM.0.png

GATTACA!
09-21-2018, 02:02 AM
Holy shit the stadium was on fire!

The only crowds I can remember being more insane were ND right after the Stanford stop in 2012 and 37-0 over Michigan.

But man that was incredible. Baker is legit. It's amazing how much of a difference a QB makes.

I don't even know how to feel right now.

ACamp1900
09-21-2018, 02:36 AM
I didn’t know The Miz was a Browns fan... even more reason to love that fool.... lol

GATTACA!
09-21-2018, 02:46 AM
I didnít know The Miz was a Browns fan... even more reason to love that fool.... lol

Yepp. Dolph Ziggler too. He used my Brownie artwork on his trunks after we drafted Johnny.

BGIF
09-21-2018, 03:03 AM
Holy shit the stadium was on fire!

The only crowds I can remember being more insane were ND right after the Stanford stop in 2012 and 37-0 over Michigan.

But man that was incredible. Baker is legit. It's amazing how much of a difference a QB makes.

I don't even know how to feel right now.

Browns fans ... the NFL's Walking Dead.

dang227
09-21-2018, 06:48 AM
I didn’t know The Miz was a Browns fan... even more reason to love that fool.... lol



He is from Cleveland and went to BW

NDohio
09-21-2018, 08:11 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We WON!!! —-Wait....Oh God. The free beer thing...Ok Cleveland. Stay calm. GO BROWNS!!! <a href="https://twitter.com/Browns?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Browns</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/budlight?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@budlight</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CLE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CLE</a></p>&mdash; Cleveland Police (@CLEpolice) <a href="https://twitter.com/CLEpolice/status/1042982163656798208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 21, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Irish#1
09-21-2018, 08:20 AM
going to be some drunk ass people in cleveland tonight, and some unproductive work environments tomorrow.

That's a normal day in Cleveland.

Ndaccountant
09-21-2018, 08:41 AM
me this morning....
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NDohio
09-21-2018, 09:30 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cleveland may not survive a winning season <a href="https://t.co/KJ9g2WwYZO">pic.twitter.com/KJ9g2WwYZO</a></p>&mdash; Jac Collinsworth (@JacCollinsworth) <a href="https://twitter.com/JacCollinsworth/status/1043122568759263233?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 21, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Check out the rug he lands on...ACamp?

ACamp1900
09-21-2018, 09:38 AM
Lol... that’s a great combo... never go full retard tho...

irishnd31
09-21-2018, 09:42 AM
I didnít know The Miz was a Browns fan... even more reason to love that fool.... lol
Miz went to my high school but a few years after I graduated. He's a Normandy Invader.

dang227
09-21-2018, 10:12 AM
Cleveland sports radio was pretty classic this morning. Half the people who called in I think were still drunk.


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ACamp1900
09-21-2018, 10:30 AM
He is from Cleveland and went to BW

Thought he was from Wisconsin...

GATTACA!
09-21-2018, 11:37 AM
https://i.imgur.com/biDFHU0.gif

dublinirish
09-21-2018, 11:49 AM
I didnít know The Miz was a Browns fan... even more reason to love that fool.... lol

he's been on the Joe Thomas/Andrew Hawkins podcast and he's actually very knowledgeable/passionate about the Browns

DogDaysIrish
09-21-2018, 08:32 PM
Thought he was from Wisconsin...

Nah...He's a Parma boy!

phgreek
09-22-2018, 12:45 AM
Saw the score and immediately thought of you ACamp.

You are the only person I know of that is a Browns fan

...Just wanted to drop by and say congrats.

ulukinatme
09-22-2018, 02:18 AM
Saw the score and immediately thought of you ACamp.

You are the only person I know of that is a Browns fan

...Just wanted to drop by and say congrats.

https://media.giphy.com/media/hEc4k5pN17GZq/giphy.gif

Yeah, there's a few of us here, but ACamp is the only one that puts it in his sig. Grew up 40 minutes south of Cleveland. When I play Madden I only play as the Browns, but I usually trade for ND Alum.

GATTACA!
09-22-2018, 10:22 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/hEc4k5pN17GZq/giphy.gif

Yeah, there's a few of us here, but ACamp is the only one that puts it in his sig. Grew up 40 minutes south of Cleveland. When I play Madden I only play as the Browns, but I usually trade for ND Alum.

Excuse me?

ACamp1900
09-22-2018, 10:28 AM
Saw the score and immediately thought of you ACamp.

You are the only person I know of that is a Browns fan

...Just wanted to drop by and say congrats.

Awesome... thanks man.

ulukinatme
09-22-2018, 05:18 PM
Excuse me?

I said there were a few of us here! ACamp is the most visible Browns fan because of his sig though :laugh:

DogDaysIrish
09-23-2018, 01:21 AM
The best part of it is...ACamp lives the furthest away from Cleveland than all of us and still chooses to be a Browns fan. Sick bastard. For the rest of us that live here, it's a way of life to have your will sucked out of you like death or taxes year after year after year.

GATTACA!
09-23-2018, 03:09 AM
I said there were a few of us here! ACamp is the most visible Browns fan because of his sig though :laugh:

https://media1.tenor.com/images/4d50d795466b8ba0045c109694861aac/tenor.gif

ACamp deserves the love. He's been a Browns fan way longer, he's gotta be 5x older than me.

ACamp1900
09-23-2018, 10:48 AM
I’ve never even been to Ohio... lol, true story,...... I’ve also never said I was done with the Browns like some other ‘fans’ here that shall remain nameless.......... ;)

EddytoNow
09-23-2018, 11:37 AM
The best part of it is...ACamp lives the furthest away from Cleveland than all of us and still chooses to be a Browns fan. Sick bastard. For the rest of us that live here, it's a way of life to have your will sucked out of you like death or taxes year after year after year.

Browns fans don't have it so bad. Try being a fan of the Detroit Lions. They haven't sniffed a championship since the 1950s. The path the Lions like to follow takes them from last place to mediocrity and back to last place again where the cycle repeats every eight to ten years.

Legacy
09-23-2018, 01:17 PM
In case this has not been said, excellent draft by the Browns.

ACamp1900
09-26-2018, 05:08 PM
ACamp deserves the love. He's been a Browns fan way longer, he's gotta be 5x older than me.

Wisdom and intelligence disparities don't always equate to age.....

OhioIrish31
09-26-2018, 06:54 PM
In case this has not been said, excellent draft by the Browns.

I have to admit I was so pissed at our 1st and 4th pick. Early indications are good.

ACamp1900
09-26-2018, 07:19 PM
I have to admit I was so pissed at our 1st and 4th pick. Early indications are good.

I thought it was ballsy but questioned the height of both... never went ape like I did during the Tret/Weeden JFF/Gilbert drafts, so far so good... last years darft is starting to look great too with Peppers coming on.

Veritate Duce Progredi
09-26-2018, 10:46 PM
In case this has not been said, excellent draft by the Browns.

Agreed, I thought they Browned themselves again but it appears they actually made good decisions. I was not a believer in Mayfield but after one data point, he looked very good.

Browns might start surging soon.

Still not a believer in their coach.

SonofOahu
09-27-2018, 01:35 AM
Raider fan, here. Anyone wanna bet on this game, for shits and giggles?

dang227
09-27-2018, 06:05 AM
I will but can I take the Raiders?


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OhioIrish31
09-27-2018, 09:42 AM
Raider fan, here. Anyone wanna bet on this game, for shits and giggles?

OK...I bet you the Browns win! Go Baker!

ACamp1900
09-28-2018, 02:05 PM
Two in a row would be super special here... I'm surrounded by hub-cap stealing, trash talking, Raider fans... we took the 'worst team of the last decade' away from them just a year ago and you'd think they have won five or six recent super bowls with the crap they constantly talk... please win this one for the Gipper boys... I need this.

GATTACA!
09-28-2018, 02:38 PM
Two in a row would be super special here... I'm surrounded by hub-cap stealing, trash talking, Raider fans... we took the 'worst team of the last decade' away from them just a year ago and you'd think they have won five or six recent super bowls with the crap they constantly talk... please win this one for the Gipper boys... I need this.

You're gonna be at the game right??

How many wins does Baker need this season to get a statue?

5?

ACamp1900
09-28-2018, 02:39 PM
How many playoff wins does Baker need this season to get a statue?

3.

ACamp1900
09-28-2018, 02:42 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This had to be made TONIGHT...<br><br>D-Generation X Titan Tron Video - Baker Mayfield Edition <a href="https://t.co/GCiQ4jPdT1">pic.twitter.com/GCiQ4jPdT1</a></p>&mdash; Mr. Pilkington (@Onikuno) <a href="https://twitter.com/Onikuno/status/932095162800631808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I think it was already said here but it bears repeating... someone needs to redo this with some Browns stuff in it...

ACamp1900
09-28-2018, 03:39 PM
Just texted my mom about coming over for the game as we all have different teams but all hate the Raiders... she said she has to catch up on chores. My response, "Weigh things here mom... on one hand you have another wasting weekend of cleaning, dusting and raking, on the other you have keg stands, Browns werewolf masks, and doing back flips into the pool from the roof while screaming 'Baker is a golden gawd!!!' after we win... this should not be hard." This Redskins fan over here aint be knowing...

OhioIrish31
09-28-2018, 05:05 PM
I'm so drunk on the Kool-Aid...I went out and picked Baker up on the Waiver wire and am starting him in FFB. Dak and Big Ben will have to sit this one out. I don't expect him to be as brilliant as he was Thursday but I still think he lights it up and moves the offense.

ACamp1900
09-28-2018, 05:06 PM
I'm so drunk on the Kool-Aid...

Brah... The only team I've been this drunk on the kool aid for with any of my team's was when the Pens or Halso won titles. I'm swimming in it right now. I'm putting in bids for werewolf masks on ebay... I'm looking for more Browns polos for work... I'm getting 30 packs of beast because AAARRRGGHHH...

Please don't let this be a mirage...

OhioIrish31
09-28-2018, 05:11 PM
Brah... The only team I've been this drunk on the kool for any of my team's was when the Pens or Halso won titles. I'm swimming in it right now. I'm putting in bids for werewolf masks on ebay... I'm looking for more Browns polos for work... I'm getting 30 packs of beast because AAARRRGGHHH...

Please don't let this be a mirage...

I hear ya...if they win two in a row I'll be chugging the punch bowl. I really tried not to get excited when I watched Baker in the pre-season. Now with just one win (against a so-so) team I'm all-in...it's not a mirage!!!

ACamp1900
09-28-2018, 05:12 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/72/9d/c4/729dc4cb8666b4b800ae3a343f00058c.jpg

GATTACA!
09-28-2018, 05:25 PM
Brah... The only team I've been this drunk on the kool aid for with any of my team's was when the Pens or Halso won titles. I'm swimming in it right now. I'm putting in bids for werewolf masks on ebay... I'm looking for more Browns polos for work... I'm getting 30 packs of beast because AAARRRGGHHH...

Please don't let this be a mirage...

Is your possum already on its way?

ACamp1900
09-28-2018, 05:33 PM
Is your possum already on its way?

Ha! I don't mess with those things. We discussed this somewhere here in the last year, I've seen those things get WILD... when I saw the video of homedude just grabbing one by the tail I was like:

https://media.giphy.com/media/DQDkxVLALtyQo/200.gif

Had i tried that i would have lost an arm on live television... I'm convinced.

SonofOahu
09-29-2018, 02:13 AM
OK...I bet you the Browns win! Go Baker!

Is there a way to do a person-to-person bet rather than the betting function on this site? I don't venture into that section often, I don't know how it works.

Small bet? 1MM Vbucks?

Irish YJ
09-29-2018, 07:56 AM
Is there a way to do a person-to-person bet rather than the betting function on this site? I don't venture into that section often, I don't know how it works.

Small bet? 1MM Vbucks?

handshake, and loser donates to winner.

Irish YJ
09-29-2018, 07:59 AM
love the rally possum. only the browns....

http://www.neosportsinsiders.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Cleveland-Browns-Possum-777x437.jpg

GATTACA!
09-29-2018, 09:57 AM
If we win tomorrow I'm buying this guy and he's sitting by me for the rest of the season.

https://i.imgur.com/bR5m3fc.png

OhioIrish31
09-29-2018, 11:18 AM
Is there a way to do a person-to-person bet rather than the betting function on this site? I don't venture into that section often, I don't know how it works.

Small bet? 1MM Vbucks?

Yeah...The bet is a million vBucks and whoever loses just donates $1M vbucks to the other person. I'll walk you thru it once you lose. :) Go Browns!

SonofOahu
09-29-2018, 04:03 PM
Yeah...The bet is a million vBucks and whoever loses just donates $1M vbucks to the other person. I'll walk you thru it once you lose. :) Go Browns!

Hahaha. Love the confidence. We doing spread or up-n-up? I don't even know what the spread is. I think the Raiders were giving, last I saw.

Sorry, Dang227, can't bet against my team.

ACamp1900
09-29-2018, 04:56 PM
Hahaha. Love the confidence. We doing spread or up-n-up? I don't even know what the spread is. I think the Raiders were giving, last I saw.

Sorry, Dang227, can't bet against my team.

From what I can see you ‘bet against your team’ every time you vote....

OhioIrish31
09-29-2018, 05:36 PM
Hahaha. Love the confidence. We doing spread or up-n-up? I don't even know what the spread is. I think the Raiders were giving, last I saw.

Sorry, Dang227, can't bet against my team.

Even up!

Legacy
11-09-2018, 01:34 PM
https://www.cheatsheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Cleveland-Browns-fan-Elsa-Getty-Images.jpg

Time to reflect on the 2016 draft and the trades that netted picks in 2017. Comments?

Cleveland Browns 2016 NFL Draft Class The Worst In Franchise History? (https://factoryofsadness.co/2016/12/28/cleveland-browns-2016-nfl-draft-class-is-the-worst-in-franchise-history/)

Cleveland traded out of #2 to the Eagles, who selected Carson Wentz, getting 1(8). After #2, the picks were Joey Bosa, Ezechial Elliott, Jalen Ramsey, Ronnie Stanley and DeForest Buckner. They then traded 1(8) to the Titans who selected Jack Conklin, OT for 1(15) and picked Corey Coleman, WR. The Browns got a 7th round pick in 2020 for Coleman from the Bills. He was waived by them and then by New England and is on the Giants squad.

From the Eagles they also received their first round picks in 2017 1(12) which they traded to the Texans, selecting Jabril Peppers at 1(25) and their first round pick in 2018, selecting Denzel Ward 1(4) plus other picks.

After 25, left on the board were Tre-Davious White, T.J. Watt, Reuben Foster and Ryan Ramczyk who all were on the All-Rookie team that year.

The Cleveland Draftees - 2016 NFL Draft Tracker (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-team/dt-by-round-input:1/dt-by-team-input:cle)

Of the fourteen picks in 2016, one of their five picks in the first 93 picks of the draft - Emmanuel Ogbah 2(1) - is left and is a starter.

Joe Shobert, Ricardo Louis, Derrick Kindred, Seth Devalve, and Rashard Higgins are still on the roster. Shobert and Louis are injured. Kindred and Devalve are listed as second string.

Prior to the draft, Mitchell Schwartz, OT signed with the Chiefs when the Browns did not match his offer sheet of 5 years $33 million. Cam Erving has also found a home in KC via a trade for a fifth round pick in 2018 and is now starting at LG.

Thoughts? Was trading back for more picks in 2016, 2017 and 2018 worth it?

ulukinatme
11-09-2018, 05:15 PM
Just about every year is the worst Draft Class in franchise history. I'm still not convinced Baker is the savior, but I do think he's had the most fortunate circumstances of any of Cleveland's QBs the last few years. Losing Joe Thomas to retirement wasn't great for him, but arguably the team is playing a bit better this year and it goes beyond the QB position.

Legacy
11-11-2018, 02:54 PM
In my mind, draft choices by the Browns have contributed more than draft strategies in the first rounds.

As far as QBs go, in 2016 outside of Goff and Wentz in the first two picks, only Dak Prescott at 4(37) #135 has succeeded. The trade with the Eagles for #2 netted the first rounders in 2017 The Eagles pick that was traded to Texans for another two first rounders in 2018 resulted in Denzel Ward.

In 2017, Trubisky and Mahomes were gone at #12, so the trade with the Texans makes sense.

As far as the OL, they should have kept Mitchell Schwartz at ROT at 5 yrs for $33 million and then they would not have needed to sign Chris Hubbard at $37 million. Draft Ryan Ramczyk or Cam Robinson in 2017 in 2017 to replace Joe Thomas in 2018 instead of David Njoku at 1(29). They had 1(25) and picked Peppers. Instead pick Tre'Davious White at CB and use 2018's second pick on Bradley Chubb or Quinton Nelson. Retaining Cam Erving who is starting at OG for KC would have been another good move.

GATTACA!
11-11-2018, 03:12 PM
In my mind, draft choices by the Browns have contributed more than draft strategies in the first rounds.

As far as QBs go, in 2016 outside of Goff and Wentz in the first two picks, only Dak Prescott at 4(37) #135 has succeeded. The trade with the Eagles for #2 netted the first rounders in 2017 The Eagles pick that was traded to Texans for another two first rounders in 2018 resulted in Denzel Ward.

In 2017, Trubisky and Mahomes were gone at #12, so the trade with the Texans makes sense.

As far as the OL, they should have kept Mitchell Schwartz at ROT at 5 yrs for $33 million and then they would not have needed to sign Chris Hubbard at $37 million. Draft Ryan Ramczyk or Cam Robinson in 2017 in 2017 to replace Joe Thomas in 2018 instead of David Njoku at 1(29). They had 1(25) and picked Peppers. Instead pick Tre'Davious White at CB and use 2018's second pick on Bradley Chubb or Quinton Nelson. Retaining Cam Erving who is starting at OG for KC would have been another good move.

I think you're forgetting how bad Cam Erving is. He's being buoyed by all-stars all over their offense. Even still he had 2 holds against us when we played KC.

ACamp1900
11-11-2018, 03:25 PM
Erving was horrible...

Legacy
11-12-2018, 02:17 PM
I think you're forgetting how bad Cam Erving is. He's being buoyed by all-stars all over their offense. Even still he had 2 holds against us when we played KC.

He grades out as the worst of the KC starting linemen. I don't get why the Browns did not match the offer sheet for Schwartz. Congrats on the win. Mayfield did well. Playing yourself out of the top ten? Dorsey and his scouting staff will help with future drafts, if last year's picks are an indication. No reason not to spend some money on the right free agents.

ACamp1900
11-13-2018, 11:05 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/bakermayfield?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@bakermayfield</a> woke up feelin' dangerous this morning �� <a href="https://t.co/yaxVoBzu61">pic.twitter.com/yaxVoBzu61</a></p>&mdash; Cleveland Browns (@Browns) <a href="https://twitter.com/Browns/status/1061751442783064065?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Legacy
11-13-2018, 11:50 AM
Browns put their best foot forward in feeding Nick Chubb, Duke Johnson Jr. (https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-browns-put-their-best-foot-forward-in-feeding-nick-chubb-duke-johnson-jr)

ACamp1900
11-13-2018, 11:59 AM
Me arriving to work after a Browns game the last few years:



https://i.chzbgr.com/full/4028353536/hF836C864/







Me arriving to work after this past Sunday:




https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EmbarrassedForthrightIrishwolfhound-max-1mb.gif

GATTACA!
11-13-2018, 01:50 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/5c5db8ae39ec1504d2afc8d559d98a6b/tenor.gif?itemid=12572541

ACamp1900
11-16-2018, 11:49 AM
So are we like SURE Mayfield's marriage is official??? Because brah, Baker, have you friends get with my friends and we can be friends....

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/GzAf7oXwE1A" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Dude is comedy.

ACamp1900
11-16-2018, 11:50 AM
apparently the NFL make you watch it on youtube but it works...

Irish2155
12-30-2018, 05:47 PM
Browns just got screwed on what should have been a scoop and score.

GATTACA!
12-30-2018, 06:02 PM
Horrible horrible officiating as usual. The NFL refs are a complete joke. I'd take ACC refs over the NFL bullshit. Their product is becoming unwatchable. There's several of these blatant terrible calls every single game. A moron could ref these games better. How retarded do you have to be to blow that play dead? What downside is there to allowing them to play it out? Idiots! IDIOTS!

Irish2155
12-30-2018, 06:16 PM
Horrible horrible officiating as usual. The NFL refs are a complete joke. I'd take ACC refs over the NFL bullshit. Their product is becoming unwatchable. There's several of these blatant terrible calls every single game. A moron could ref these games better. How retarded do you have to be to blow that play dead? What downside is there to allowing them to play it out? Idiots! IDIOTS!

I get that is a very difficult call for the human eye in real time. That said, what I don't understand, is why would you blow the whistle? Just let it play out... We all know, either way, it is going to be reviewed by every camera angle...let the technology work instead of looking like an idiot.

As I type this, Brownies just scored and should have the lead right now.

Irish2155
12-30-2018, 06:24 PM
Speaking of...bring one back for the Ravens.

ACamp1900
12-30-2018, 06:43 PM
Browns just got screwed on what should have been a scoop and score.

They literally lost like three games on blown calls alone.

ACamp1900
12-30-2018, 07:21 PM
Terrible calls, and poor kicking,... if not for those we would have a first round bye,... oh well.

Kicker
DT ( I think this is an area no one is talking about, we need more disruption up the middle)
OLB
One more Tackle
WR
CB

I think that will be the focus,... easily done with the draft and our cap space. I expect big things next year.

Bluto
12-30-2018, 07:39 PM
Man, that was an insane play by that Ravens linebacker.

ACamp1900
12-30-2018, 07:59 PM
Man, that was an insane play by that Ravens linebacker.

*ratbirds

Bluto
12-30-2018, 08:16 PM
*ratbirds

A Browns fan and an ND fan. I donít know how you do it. You are definitely a better man than I. Salud!

ACamp1900
12-30-2018, 08:21 PM
A Browns fan and an ND fan. I donít know how you do it. You are definitely a better man than I. Salud!

Definitely.


Lol

Bluto
12-30-2018, 08:27 PM
Definitely.


Lol

Haha! That was a softball. Cheers!

Bishop2b5
12-30-2018, 08:59 PM
A Browns fan and an ND fan. I donít know how you do it. You are definitely a better man than I. Salud!

ACamp also wears tight underwear and eats at Taco Bell. He's a glutton for punishment, I tell ya.

ACamp1900
12-30-2018, 10:33 PM
ACamp also wears tight underwear and eats at Taco Bell. He's a glutton for punishment, I tell ya.

I would never eat at Taco Bell...

Sherm Sticky
12-30-2018, 10:58 PM
I would never eat at Taco Bell...



Some of us who don&rsquo;t live in California or Texas very much enjoy Taco Bell buddy.


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ACamp1900
12-30-2018, 10:59 PM
Some of us who don&rsquo;t live in California or Texas very much enjoy Taco Bell buddy.


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Uncultured swine....

Sherm Sticky
12-30-2018, 11:00 PM
Uncultured swine....



Ouch...that one really hurt.


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ACamp1900
12-30-2018, 11:13 PM
Ouch...that one really hurt.


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Should have called you a chalupa

ulukinatme
12-31-2018, 06:35 AM
I may have been wrong about Mayfield. Call it battered wife syndrome, but Mayfield's red flags in college felt like he was going to be Manziel version 2. I haven't been behind Cleveland's QB picks since probably Quinn or maybe Colt McCoy (I thought Kizer was a bad move/bad fit/bad timing). I mean, who drafts Brandon Weeden AND Johnny Manziel?!

Mayfield has adjusted well to the NFL in his first year, and the team really seems to have jumped on his back. They still need some pieces, but they ended the season in an impressive way. Here's hoping he doesn't end up having a Sophomore slump and they continue to build a respectable team going into next year. It's a shame they got so close to hitting the playoff.

ACamp1900
12-31-2018, 09:45 AM
You may be wrong huh?....


Okay.

Legacy
12-31-2018, 12:27 PM
I may have been wrong about Mayfield. Call it battered wife syndrome, but Mayfield's red flags in college felt like he was going to be Manziel version 2. I haven't been behind Cleveland's QB picks since probably Quinn or maybe Colt McCoy (I thought Kizer was a bad move/bad fit/bad timing). I mean, who drafts Brandon Weeden AND Johnny Manziel?!

Mayfield has adjusted well to the NFL in his first year, and the team really seems to have jumped on his back. They still need some pieces, but they ended the season in an impressive way. Here's hoping he doesn't end up having a Sophomore slump and they continue to build a respectable team going into next year. It's a shame they got so close to hitting the playoff.

Rookie of the year.

Irish YJ
12-31-2018, 12:52 PM
Some of us who don&rsquo;t live in California or Texas very much enjoy Taco Bell buddy.


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after all the good homemade quality eats this last week, i also made a run to the border yesterday as a guilty pleasure when I took a break from working on my mom's house.

---------

Browns fans have got to be as happy or happier than Colt's fans. Two awesome stories of the year.

ACamp1900
01-04-2019, 03:30 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001007337/article/qb-index-patrick-mahomes-leads-yearend-rankings?fbclid=IwAR2s6OyElOTlqyEZNBeydG1z4KIQnaQR xBm7f_NeXQr1AFMH6UZUAmgYWw0


Mayfield played closer to a top-5 QB down the stretch. As Tony Romo pointed out, that level of play came more from instincts than know-how, so there is MVP upside once he can read coverages better. I can't think of a quarterback in the last decade who entered the league with the same combination of accuracy, arm strength and huevos.

My message to Baker:

https://media.giphy.com/media/26xBFU3WDQ1OQXoWI/giphy.gif

Irish#1
01-04-2019, 03:34 PM
I can't think of a quarterback in the last decade who entered the league with the same combination of accuracy, arm strength and huevos.


I guess Tony never watched Andrew Luck play.

ACamp1900
01-04-2019, 03:37 PM
I guess Tony never watched Andrew Luck play.

Luck is a baller and super underrated because his team hasn't been that good but that last part tho....

https://media.tenor.com/images/167b8f2e45e1a16ac840c235daa2ca19/tenor.gif

GATTACA!
01-04-2019, 03:43 PM
Luck is a baller and super underrated because his team hasn't been that good but that last part tho....

https://media.tenor.com/images/167b8f2e45e1a16ac840c235daa2ca19/tenor.gif

https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/baker-drops-balls.gif

OhioIrish31
01-04-2019, 03:49 PM
They literally lost like three games on blown calls alone.

This is what I'll be thinking about all off-season. I love the way the Browns finished. Add a few more pieces and next year will be a blast!

ACamp1900
01-08-2019, 05:12 PM
Hearing Browns just hired Kitchens as the new coach and Williams is all but out entirely.....

dang227
01-08-2019, 07:15 PM
Hearing Browns just hired Kitchens as the new coach and Williams is all but out entirely.....



Nothing has been reported locally other than him and Stefanski are the two finalists


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Ndaccountant
01-08-2019, 07:29 PM
Trying to keep Baker happy?

Bishop2b5
01-08-2019, 09:22 PM
I never expected Kitchens to become an NFL coach. He was a QB at Bama who had a cannon for an arm, but couldn't pass with any touch. Every pass, no matter the situation, was a cannon shot or overthrown. He's wasn't the most svelte guy to ever play QB either. An Auburn buddy of mine always referred to him as "That pulling guard you have throwing the ball." Glad to see he's risen this far and I hope he gets the job.

sharksamardzija8345
01-08-2019, 10:23 PM
Really hope we hire Kitchens as HC and Stefanski as OC and show Gregg the door. I think this is how it'll play out, hopefully.

ACamp1900
01-08-2019, 10:54 PM
Really hope we hire Kitchens as HC and Stefanski as OC and show Gregg the door. I think this is how it'll play out, hopefully.

Kind of agree on all counts...

loomis41973
01-08-2019, 11:26 PM
Wow. we finally have a team with dumber management than the Browns.

dublinirish
01-09-2019, 12:03 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a> are hiring their own, tapping OC Freddie Kitchens as their new head coach. <a href="https://twitter.com/mortreport?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mortreport</a> on it first.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1083045865428828161?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 9, 2019</a></blockquote>
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ACamp1900
01-09-2019, 12:07 PM
I like it well enough... everyone gave a ton of credit to Williams for the turnaround but much of that was offensively so for me it was more a combo of getting Jackson out of the building and letting kitchens do his thing.

I don't think it's a slam dunk but I'm more confident than not.

Ndaccountant
01-09-2019, 02:07 PM
I like it well enough... everyone gave a ton of credit to Williams for the turnaround but much of that was offensively so for me it was more a combo of getting Jackson out of the building and letting kitchens do his thing.

I don't think it's a slam dunk but I'm more confident than not.

I'm with ya. More like a "don't rock the boat" type of hire at the moment. The eventual DC hiring will be very important to my overall confidence though.

ACamp1900
01-09-2019, 02:08 PM
I'm with ya. More like a "don't rock the boat" type of hire at the moment. The eventual DC hiring will be very important to my overall confidence though.

Yep

Irish#1
01-09-2019, 02:55 PM
I like it because it means Eberflus stays with the Colts.

ACamp1900
01-09-2019, 05:25 PM
I like it because it means Eberflus stays with the Colts.

Fuck all teams, always,... unless youíre the Browns.

dang227
01-09-2019, 06:37 PM
I am fine with Kitchens. Better than some retread. He&rsquo;s been in the league 14 years coaching. If they have the players they will win.


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ulukinatme
01-24-2019, 09:37 AM
Acamp, Gattaca, this is a good read:

Clashing in Cleveland: How Hue Jackson, Jimmy Haslam and Baker Mayfield collided
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25797430/inside-cleveland-browns-front-office-where-hope-history-collide

ulukinatme
01-24-2019, 02:51 PM
Also this:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/yBNJDRsiTig" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

ACamp1900
01-24-2019, 03:15 PM
Lol,... Baker is the greatest

ulukinatme
01-24-2019, 03:24 PM
The jab at Hue Jackson was great.
I did enjoy the ESPN piece about the Haslam regime though...the exchange when Hue was fired was hilarious:

So according to people briefed on the meeting, on Oct. 29, Haslam and general manager John Dorsey entered Jackson's office and told him the team was going to move in a different direction.

Jackson asked why he was being fired.

The team quit on you, Dorsey replied.

At the time, four of the eight Browns games had gone to overtime.

"Get the f--- out of my office," Jackson said.

He told the fucking owner to get the fuck out of HIS office. Incompetent, but he sure had balls.

ulukinatme
03-05-2019, 04:40 PM
I remember thinking back that Kellen Winslow was one of the best TEs to play for the Browns in some time, and it was a mistake to let him go over a decade ago. Dude is seriously messed up these days though:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26141998/former-te-winslow-jail-accused-lewd-acts

Former NFL tight end Kellen Winslow II has been jailed without bail after he allegedly performed lewd actions in front of a 77-year-old woman at a California gym.

Deputy District Attorney Dan Owens told The San Diego Union-Tribune that Winslow is accused of a pair of lewd actions toward a woman at a Carlsbad gym in February. Winslow allegedly touched himself in front of the woman and touched the woman on her arm and foot in a hot tub in separate incidents nine days apart.

Winslow, 35, is facing misdemeanor charges of lewd conduct (two counts), battery of an elder (one count) and willful cruelty to an elder (one count).

He had been on house arrest stemming from charges that include kidnapping and rape from an alleged March 2018 crime spree.

Winslow has pleaded not guilty to the 2018 charges, and a trial is scheduled for April. If convicted, Winslow could face a maximum sentence of life in prison.

Winslow spent 10 seasons in the NFL from 2004 to 2013 with Cleveland, Tampa Bay, New England and the New York Jets.

The crime spree from 2018 is crazy:

Prosecutors say Winslow began a crime spree last March that included rapes, kidnappings, indecent exposure and burglary and continued until just before his arrest this week.

According to charging documents, he allegedly kidnapped and raped a 54-year-old woman on March 13 and then a 59-year-old woman on May 13.

On May 24, prosecutors say, he exposed himself in a public place, the location of which wasn't disclosed.

The burglary charges involved alleged break-ins at the home of a 71-year-old woman on June 1 and an 86-year-old woman on June 7.

Seriously, wtf?! During that same timeline last year he was also charged with raping a 17 year old (That incident occurred in 2003 though). Once a Miami Hurricane, always a Miami Hurricane?

ACamp1900
03-05-2019, 05:01 PM
I wasn't happy when they drafted him... his antics at Miami were enough for me. I never thought he lived up with the hype but he was certainly a plus player when he was healthy and such.

Henges24
03-05-2019, 05:05 PM
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26141998/former-te-winslow-jail-accused-lewd-acts


The crime spree from 2018 is crazy:


Seriously, wtf?! During that same timeline last year he was also charged with raping a 17 year old (That incident occurred in 2003 though). Once a Miami Hurricane, always a Miami Hurricane?

I didn't even realize that this guy was not in a jail cell. Seriously? 2 rapes and a kidnapping and this guy isn't a threat to society? How does that work? And if he's on house arrest how is he able to still go to a gym? Put him away.

zelezo vlk
03-05-2019, 05:07 PM
Kellen has mental issues, obviously.

ACamp1900
03-06-2019, 02:26 PM
Just released Collins... way overpriced and should be able to upgrade...

dang227
03-06-2019, 09:05 PM
Just released Collins... way overpriced and should be able to upgrade...



Good. He was really poor last year. All 3 LB spots need upgraded


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Irish#1
03-07-2019, 08:19 AM
I didn't even realize that this guy was not in a jail cell. Seriously? 2 rapes and a kidnapping and this guy isn't a threat to society? How does that work? And if he's on house arrest how is he able to still go to a gym? Put him away.

"after he allegedly performed lewd actions in front of a 77-year-old woman at a California gym. Winslow allegedly touched himself in front of the woman and touched the woman on her arm and foot in a hot tub in separate incidents nine days apart."

Appears he has a thing for older women.

gkIrish
03-08-2019, 12:14 PM
What do Browns fans think of this trade? As a Giants fan I couldn't be happier.

Legacy
03-08-2019, 12:34 PM
What do Browns fans think of this trade? As a Giants fan I couldn't be happier.

Giants to trade Olivier Vernon to Browns for OL Zeitler (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001021511/article/giants-to-trade-olivier-vernon-to-browns-for-ol-zeitler)

The Browns are shipping guard Kevin Zeitler to New York in the swap, per Garafolo and Rapoport. The Giants are also sending the No. 132 overall pick (fourth round) to Cleveland and getting the No. 155 overall pick (fifth round) in return.

The pact can't be consummated until the new league year opens on March 13.

The swap helps the Giants shore up a porous offensive line with one of the best guards in the NFL. The Browns had been shopping Zeitler with 2018 second-round guard Austin Corbett in line to take over duties. Zeitler has a base salary of $10 million in 2019 and is under contract through 2021.

Big Blue was seeking to trade Vernon, who is due $15.25 million in base salary in 2019 and 2020, ahead of free agency. What looked to be an untradeable contract found a home with the cap-flush Browns.

FDNYIrish1
03-08-2019, 12:36 PM
What do Browns fans think of this trade? As a Giants fan I couldn't be happier.

Giants fan here as well. Not sure really what to make of this. I thought they would bring Brown back and address RT via draft and free agency. Had to get rid of OV salary and injury history I know, but man we have to do something about this defense. Itís not too much of a salary dump and there was a swap of picks as well. I guess we will see.

ACamp1900
03-08-2019, 01:24 PM
What do Browns fans think of this trade? As a Giants fan I couldn't be happier.

I don't know too much about Oliver but the PFF grades look good for us... I'm not too confident in Corbett so yeah... wait at see. If they made this move with Ogbah sitting there I assume they are done dealing... expect Duke and Ogbah to be shopped.

GATTACA!
03-08-2019, 02:03 PM
I like it. Zeitler was getting paid too much as an interior lineman with what is essentially a first round pick sitting behind him. Hopefully Oliver can stay healthy.

dublinirish
03-08-2019, 02:39 PM
Browns passing on Chubb last year to then take on Oliver's contract this year is puzzling

gkIrish
03-08-2019, 03:17 PM
I think it's a rare win/win trade. The Giants can now focus on defense in the draft and free agency. Plus they get a bit of short term cap relief and also Zeitler has no dead money left on his deal. Browns get help with the pass rush and have a capable backup at the guard position. Plus the draft pick swap.

ACamp1900
03-08-2019, 04:33 PM
I think it's a rare win/win trade. The Giants can now focus on defense in the draft and free agency. Plus they get a bit of short term cap relief and also Zeitler has no dead money left on his deal. Browns get help with the pass rush and have a capable backup at the guard position. Plus the draft pick swap.

Pretty surprised to learn Vernon is owed more money...

IrishSteelhead
03-12-2019, 08:14 PM
OBJ trade. Yay or nay Camp? Thats gonna be a lot of money for a WR.


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dang227
03-12-2019, 08:18 PM
Super Bowl...Super Browns...Yeah!!!


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ACamp1900
03-12-2019, 08:35 PM
Idk,... that’s a lot to give up for a diva WR,... JP was coming on too... I’ll have to let this marinate.

ACamp1900
03-12-2019, 08:44 PM
On paper we have arguably the best pass catching core and DL in football after today,... but our LBs and DBs need massive improvement and now we don’t have a first rounder...

OhioIrish31
03-12-2019, 08:49 PM
On paper we have arguably the best pass catching core and DL in football after today,... but our LBs and DBs need massive improvement and now we donít have a first rounder...

Baker will be chucking the ball around next year...this is going to be a blast!

ACamp1900
03-12-2019, 08:56 PM
Who is out there to sign at SS now? Def an area that needs addressing

ACamp1900
03-12-2019, 09:03 PM
Dorsey is going in on Earl Thomas,... watch.

ACamp1900
03-12-2019, 09:10 PM
Dorsey is going in on Earl Thomas,... watch.

Oh. My. Gawd...


It sounds like it may happen.

dang227
03-12-2019, 09:11 PM
That&rsquo;s the word on Twitter


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ACamp1900
03-12-2019, 09:14 PM
I’m gonna headbutt a hole in the roof if this happens...

ACamp1900
03-12-2019, 09:22 PM
I haven’t hit the refresh button this much in a LONG ass time... lol

OhioIrish31
03-12-2019, 09:30 PM
I havenít hit the refresh button this much in a LONG ass time... lol

I'm right with you!!!!

OhioIrish31
03-12-2019, 09:38 PM
no surprise here...Breshad Perriman wants out of his one-year, $4 million agreement with the Browns. A deal they signed about an hour before announcing OBJ deal. Dorsey is a killer!

ACamp1900
03-12-2019, 09:49 PM
I wonder if Thomas is using us to get more out of SF??

ulukinatme
03-12-2019, 09:55 PM
I don't know. Beckham is still young, but the Browns gave up and awful lot for him. Hopefully he and Mayfield develop some chemistry. I'm cautiously optimistic, I just hope they didn't overpay. Used to seeing the Browns bring in veterans that are starting to crumble. His last few seasons haven't been great statistically, although injuries caused him to miss most of 2017.

FDNYIrish1
03-12-2019, 10:41 PM
Beckham is a generational talent, you guys are going to love him. I think this is a perfect situation for him with Landry and his coach. If he stays focused and healthy, you guys just landed the best receiver in the game. You just have to hope he doesn’t end up being a distraction, because I feel he just wore out his welcome here with management and his behavior. If he stays on path, the Browns are going to be an awful lot of fun to watch. I’m going to miss watching him every week. I hope it works out for both teams. Good luck guys! I’ve had a soft spot for the Brownies from my 4 years of college in Ohio. Great fans.

GATTACA!
03-13-2019, 01:10 AM
Dorsey is going in on Earl Thomas,... watch.

Word is Eric Berry is on the block. Makes sense with the Dorsey KC connection, and he's a SS unlike Earl.

dang227
03-13-2019, 08:39 AM
I don't know. Beckham is still young, but the Browns gave up and awful lot for him. Hopefully he and Mayfield develop some chemistry. I'm cautiously optimistic, I just hope they didn't overpay. Used to seeing the Browns bring in veterans that are starting to crumble. His last few seasons haven't been great statistically, although injuries caused him to miss most of 2017.

The way I look at it is he is only 26 and better than anything the Browns would have got at
pick 17. Peppers was overrated and didn't have the production a first round pick would be expected to have. I do not believe they would have resigned him anyway. The pick in the 3rd round is what they received from the Danny Sheltron trade. As a lifelong NEO resident and Browns fan, this is what I have been waiting for since the late 80's

gkIrish
03-13-2019, 09:18 AM
FYI the picks that were swapped in the Vernon trade are apparently being removed from the deal. So Giants keep their 4th and Browns keep their 5th.

zelezo vlk
03-13-2019, 09:46 AM
Still dunno why Cleveland needed to send a 3rd with the 1st and Peppers. I understand why the Giants would make the trade, but I'm not sure the Gettleman tenure turns out.

Veritate Duce Progredi
03-13-2019, 09:57 AM
Still dunno why Cleveland needed to send a 3rd with the 1st and Peppers. I understand why the Giants would make the trade, but I'm not sure the Gettleman tenure turns out.

Yeah, that's a lot of draft capital that carries a low hit on the budget. I hope OBJ tears it up in Cleveland. I'm really rooting for the franchise, it'd be great to see them rise to a playoff team for a few years.

zelezo vlk
03-13-2019, 09:59 AM
Yeah, that's a lot of draft capital that carries a low hit on the budget. I hope OBJ tears it up in Cleveland. I'm really rooting for the franchise, it'd be great to see them rise to a playoff team for a few years.

I'm very much in Cleveland's camp and am hoping to see some great football from Baker et al.

ACamp1900
03-13-2019, 10:05 AM
Most grades of the trade seem to have us winning big... I'm not so sure any WR is worth all that tho so i get what's you're getting at.

#1rish
03-13-2019, 10:54 AM
I don't see it being that bad of a trade for the Giants. Losing a generational talent in OBJ sucks, but it doesn't set them back years like some are saying. I can see them taking Haskins at #7 and if he's still there Metcalf or Marquise Brown.

Luckylucci
03-13-2019, 11:02 AM
I don't see it being that bad of a trade for the Giants. Losing a generational talent in OBJ sucks, but it doesn't set them back years like some are saying. I can see them taking Haskins at #7 and if he's still there Metcalf or Marquise Brown.

I think theyíll either trade for a QB (Rosen) and draft a WR or go QB/WR with those picks.

Ndaccountant
03-13-2019, 11:13 AM
Still dunno why Cleveland needed to send a 3rd with the 1st and Peppers. I understand why the Giants would make the trade, but I'm not sure the Gettleman tenure turns out.

I think cap hit of the deal is the real issue.

From ESPN:
Cleveland essentially has OBJ signed on a five-year, $77 million pact with $19.5 million guaranteed, all but $2.75 million of which comes this season. From the Browns' perspective, his deal averages $15.4 million per season. He's owed $47 million over the next three seasons, which is less than Sammy Watkins -- an inferior wide receiver with far less of a track record -- received in unrestricted free agency last year.

From my perspective, Cleveland is pulling a win in next 3 year window. A 3rd round pick could certainly bolster the team both short and long term, along with salary cap flexibility. If they are trying to go all in while Baker and Myles Garret are on rookie contracts, I think it makes sense to load up on deals that will expire in next 3-4 years. So from a Browns perspective, I would feel much better if I secure OBJ, which means forgoing drafting, say, a S in the 3rd round (Justin Reid was great in 2018 and was 3rd rounder, Ronnie Harrison not so much) versus signing Haha or Earl Thomas to a 3 year deal with the roster structure? I would prefer the known quantity myself.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26243093/grading-odell-beckham-jr-trade-giants-browns-won

ACamp1900
03-13-2019, 12:50 PM
I wont feel good about the OBJ trade until we get some safety help that is now glaringly needed.

Veritate Duce Progredi
03-13-2019, 01:08 PM
I wont feel good about the OBJ trade until we get some safety help that is now glaringly needed.

I'm sure they'll find a middle tier free agent to sign in the secondary or they'll put a few of their draft picks into it.

The clock is now ticking for the Browns, they have accrued massive draft capital to make these moves and now they are making them. Look forward to seeing them in the fall and hope they come out of the gates white hot.

The should be absolutely deadly on offense and the defensive line should help make even an average secondary look good.

Luckylucci
03-13-2019, 01:10 PM
In a seemingly wide open AFC North (on paper), now is the time to make that move. Only time will tell if it's the right move but you can't sit on your hands forever.

ACamp1900
03-13-2019, 01:43 PM
We need to sign Ha-Ha CD I guess... Earl Thomas can eat a giant bag of fucking dicks... pos.

OhioIrish31
03-13-2019, 03:07 PM
I wont feel good about the OBJ trade until we get some safety help that is now glaringly needed.

Doesn't matter who plays safety for us if we continue to place him 30 yards off the LOS like we did with Peppers. Couldn't tell if he was any good because we didn't see him in the tv screen until the play was over and everyone was returning to their huddle. He didn't give up any big plays keeping everything in front of him...but we gave up tons of yards on short and intermediate routes over the middle. Was it just because he was slow? I don't know.

ACamp1900
03-13-2019, 03:08 PM
Doesn't matter who plays safety for us if we continue to place him 30 yards off the LOS like we did with Peppers. Couldn't tell if he was any good because we didn't see him in the tv screen until the play was over and everyone was returning to their huddle. He didn't give up any big plays keeping everything in front of him...but we gave up tons of yards on short and intermediate routes over the middle. Was it just because he was slow? I don't know.

They did this much more his rookie season... didn't notice it as much this past year.

OhioIrish31
03-13-2019, 03:16 PM
They did this much more his rookie season... didn't notice it as much this past year.

Agree that rookie season was much more...but being an "ex-Safety" I can't break the habit of watching for safety play on every snap. I would get so mad...especially in some of those close games when we needed a stop on third and long and he was completely out of the picture. Hoping we don't get the same treatment from the refs as we got last year...holy shit!

ulukinatme
03-13-2019, 04:32 PM
Eric Berry was just released by the Chiefs.
#It'sHappening?

ACamp1900
03-13-2019, 04:33 PM
Eric Berry was just released by the Chiefs.
#It'sHappening?

We were just trying to trade for him... crazy....

ACamp1900
03-13-2019, 04:35 PM
It'd be a lil risky... dude has played how many games in the last couple years,... like four??

ACamp1900
03-13-2019, 04:54 PM
Shopping Ogbah it sounds like,... predictable I suppose but he'd be one of the better depth options out there at this point and Vernon has a history of injuries no? I'd keep EO unless they can get a high quality DB or LB for him, which I doubt.

ACamp1900
03-13-2019, 05:00 PM
Talk dirty to me:

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GATTACA!
03-13-2019, 05:45 PM
Shopping Ogbah it sounds like,... predictable I suppose but he'd be one of the better depth options out there at this point and Vernon has a history of injuries no? I'd keep EO unless they can get a high quality DB or LB for him, which I doubt.

Ehh thing is he's just ok and there's no way we're resigning him after next year. If you could move him and get something in return and then just replace him with another decent DE as depth I think you end up ahead.

ACamp1900
03-13-2019, 05:53 PM
After the Josh Gordon mess I can't wait to see what punishment the offices give Hunt... watch him get something that vastly outpaces any other comparable suspension.

ACamp1900
03-14-2019, 11:12 AM
https://www.wsaz.com/content/news/Woman-calls-police-on-excited-Browns-fan-507141761.html

GATTACA!
03-15-2019, 12:52 AM
After the Josh Gordon mess I can't wait to see what punishment the offices give Hunt... watch him get something that vastly outpaces any other comparable suspension.

I'm guessing he gets 2-4 after any appeals and taking off time served.

Irish YJ
03-15-2019, 12:58 AM
https://www.wsaz.com/content/news/Woman-calls-police-on-excited-Browns-fan-507141761.html

dude looked like he just smoked up before that interview.

can you imagine the social media outrage if the lady that called was white.

ACamp1900
03-15-2019, 10:08 AM
Hunt got 8 games... I assume there will be an appeal?? I also assume we move Duke now.

ACamp1900
03-15-2019, 10:55 AM
No Appeal... it'll be interesting to see how and where he fits...

Irish YJ
03-15-2019, 01:48 PM
Fresh legs for game 9

GATTACA!
03-15-2019, 02:51 PM
Way too harsh IMO.

Reportedly the Browns were anticipating 8-10 when they signed him, so this wouldn't have any affect on their plans with Duke.

ACamp1900
03-15-2019, 03:45 PM
May be the confirmation they needed,...

Veritate Duce Progredi
03-15-2019, 09:30 PM
Getting fresh legs for weeks 9-16 and into the playoffs will be very beneficial for them. This could really play in their favor given what they already have in the backfield.

ACamp1900
03-15-2019, 10:41 PM
Still need to upgrade a couple of the following before we think contender:

SS, CB, LB, OT...

ACamp1900
03-20-2019, 10:29 AM
Everyone is raving about Dorsey this offseason and I'm just sitting here in near panic mode watching LB, OL and DB free agent options sign elsewhere......

ACamp1900
03-22-2019, 12:37 PM
Looking at the FAs left on the defensive side of the ball... only Brown (would move positions with us) and Berry (hell, is he even going to play again?) are out there that make much sense.. maybe Claiborne??

I said I'm not nearly as big on Dorsey's moves thus far if he doesn't address the back end of the defense or improve the OT position. Really hope he has another trade lined up or something... can't solve all of those issues with a second round pick. They are so close to being a legit contender, just need to plug a couple more holes.

ulukinatme
03-22-2019, 01:51 PM
Gotta wonder if Joe Thomas isn't kicking himself right now. Poor guy had to suffer through one of the worst performance droughts in Cleveland history, and when he leaves they finally decide to take football seriously.

GATTACA!
03-22-2019, 02:38 PM
Gotta wonder if Joe Thomas isn't kicking himself right now. Poor guy had to suffer through one of the worst performance droughts in Cleveland history, and when he leaves they finally decide to take football seriously.

Nah he said his body couldn't physically do it anymore even if he wanted to. I guess his knees are in terrible shape.

ACamp1900
03-22-2019, 03:50 PM
I’m sure he laughs at himself like, ‘you have to be fucking kidding me!’ But yeah his body had enough and he knew it,... also, if you were to give him a truth serum I think he HATED the first two picks last year when they were made and was totally ‘here they go again ducking up the draft..” Wasn’t until mid way through the season (like with many) where he was like, “no way!”

Irish YJ
03-25-2019, 04:22 PM
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ACamp1900
03-25-2019, 05:07 PM
We are allowing the dregs see how a real franchise that has their shit together runs things.... good on us...

Irish YJ
03-25-2019, 05:11 PM
We are allowing the dregs see how a real franchise that has their shit together runs things.... good on us...

Don't call your Browns dregs. We wouldn't let dregs into Lucas Oil :-)

ACamp1900
03-25-2019, 05:22 PM
Don't call your Browns dregs. We wouldn't let dregs into Lucas Oil :-)

Houston hit the PUP list yet???

Irish YJ
03-25-2019, 05:48 PM
Houston hit the PUP list yet???

not before Hunt gets his first touch :-)

ACamp1900
04-01-2019, 04:53 PM
Just traded Ogbah to KC for SS Eric Murray... don't know that much about Murray but looking strictly at the PFF grades I feel good enough. Anyone else know more about him?

Legacy
04-02-2019, 03:47 AM
Chiefs fans feel they won on the deal. Murray is a serviceable backup. He may not have started this year even with Berry leaving. Jordan Lucas and Mathieu are currently considered starters at safety with Armani Watts, drafted last year and injured for the year, as one backup. Sorenson may be a post-June 1 cut and would save $3 million in cap space. Chiefs may draft a S, so clearing out a couple would help. If Berry is healthy, he would be a good acquisition.

Chiefs trade Eric Murray to Browns for Emmanuel Ogbah (https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/4/1/18291131/chiefs-trade-eric-murray-to-browns-for-emmanuel-ogbah) (Arrowhead Pride)
(See comments)

One comment from a Chiefs fan to a Browns fan:
Murray is actually a little bit worse than the 105.1 passer rating against would suggest.

He was in the "enviable" position of being on a pretty terrible pass defense last season, where he wasn’t necessarily isolated and targeted any more often than anybody else. On a defense where he’d be a weaker link by a large degree, and thus would draw a lot of targets, he’d have likely graded even worse….he’s the kinda guy where volume hurts him more than helps him.

And he’s no prize as a tackler. Coming from Chiefs fans, think about what that means.

I actually have no idea what the Browns were thinking here, outside of the familiarity angle. I can see how you might not have pictured Ogbah as a key piece moving forward, so get something for him now.

But then get something for him….Murray ain’t that. It’s not like he was a guy who even really flashed while he was here….if there were some flashes that spoke to a higher ceiling, I’d maybe even understand it as an overly optimistic roll of the dice. But Murray’s "flashes" were the times we thought "ok, that wasn’t absolutely the most terrible thing we’ve ever seen".

Sorry, brother….when the 31st-ranked defense looks at this trade and says "wow…glad he’s gone", you got taken.


UPDATE: Browns trade Emmanuel Ogbah to the Chiefs for safety Eric Murray (https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2019/4/1/18290609/cleveland-browns-trade-emmanuel-ogbah-chiefs) (Dawgs by Nature)

From a Chiefs fan commenting in the article above:
Murray has largely been a disappointment for us in KC
He’s been a spot starter since he was drafted. He hasn’t been able to take the starting safety job even though it was handed to him on silver platter. He has shown flashes here and there but has been a replacement player most of the time. He is very handsy in coverage and draws a lot of fouls. He isn’t a factor against the run and shies away from contact. I’m not convinced he is better than Kindred of whom you just cut. This sounds more like a trash for trash trade in hopes a change of scenery will unlock their potential

ACamp1900
04-02-2019, 10:20 AM
I'm still okay with it... especially considering we needed a safety and Ogbah wasn't going to start. Plus, when he did and MG got all the attention Ogbah didn't step up as expected.

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Legacy
04-02-2019, 08:05 PM
What do you think of this write-up on Ogbah, ACamp?

New Chiefs defensive end Emmanuel Ogbah brings length, leverage and strength to the table (https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/4/2/18291472/new-chiefs-defensive-end-emmanuel-ogbah-brings-length-leverage-and-strength-to-the-table)

The Chiefs new DL coach is Brendan Daly, who coached NE's DL for four years.

ACamp1900
04-02-2019, 08:06 PM
He disappointed me this past season,... but maybe it’ll be a win win for both and his physical style works in KC

Irish YJ
04-02-2019, 08:39 PM
Colts claimed Kindred. What should we expect? Heard he's a thumper but can whiff big time.