The Sammy Sosa BS ...

[TDHeysus]

Originally Posted by leahy's lads

In my humble opinion, these steroid busts are old and played out.......we need to move on from here. This is something that gets too much attention. Each week, I wonder to myself, who will be a target of this tiresome BS????

I agree it is played out, but take a look from the side of a player who didnt use steriods. who went thru all the workouts, and the back to back games, who lost out on a big contract because ppl like Brady Anderson hit 50HR's. But at the same time, these non-users kept their mouth shut and didnt rat anyone out(except canseco, and that was only after he was hippocritically blackballed). What did they get for all this? they got to play in an era that almost every stat is questioned, they got lumped in with the guys that brought everything down. Even though they did the right things, they are still guilty by association. At the very least, their numbers are seriously questioned.

Sosa and Bonds both are poster boys for steriods. Look at bonds when he was with Pittsburgh, and Sosa when he first started. Both of them were 'small' guys. Both of their belts looked like they wrapped around them 3 times! Now look at Sosa during those HR years, dude had huge shoulders, upper body, and an alarming block-head. Same with bonds, a smaller guy, who blew up over the years, and he had the same block-head that Sosa had. Bonds didnt have that size, or that blockhead while in Pitt.

I know they have never officially tested positive for 'roids, but that doesnt mean that it didnt happen. and they make it look bad for everyone that was actually following the rules. (which is beginning to look like a very small number)

[jason_h537]

This is a complete shocker, Sammy Sosa used roids. Gimme a break screw all these guys who cheated. How can you have sympathy for guys like Sosa, or Sheffield, or Canseco who have their names on top of the Home Run lists with the greats. Griffey never cheated, he should be the home run king but poor guy got injured.

[Bubba]

Don't get me wrong. I don't feel sorry for any of these guys. They cheated and they deserve the ridicule they get. But, how can we know the validity of this list if names are being leaked as they are. Did this writer see the list? And, if so, why did he only point the finger at Sammy? I just think that one way or the other something needs to change. Either the whole list needs to be published for all to see, or it needs to remain anonymous as it was intended. Imagine if you had to take an anonymous test at work and only your results were leaked to everyone while all the others remained anonymous. I just think it's BS.

[BGIF]

Originally Posted by TDHeysus

...I know they have never officially tested positive for 'roids, but that doesnt mean that it didnt happen. and they make it look bad for everyone that was actually following the rules. (which is beginning to look like a very small number)

a very small number indeed.

[jason_h537]

Originally Posted by DiveRightIn

Don't get me wrong. I don't feel sorry for any of these guys. They cheated and they deserve the ridicule they get. But, how can we know the validity of this list if names are being leaked as they are. Did this writer see the list? And, if so, why did he only point the finger at Sammy? I just think that one way or the other something needs to change. Either the whole list needs to be published for all to see, or it needs to remain anonymous as it was intended. Imagine if you had to take an anonymous test at work and only your results were leaked to everyone while all the others remained anonymous. I just think it's BS.

If you took a drug test at work and the results remained anonymous to the public, the people who failed the drug test would still likely be fired.

[TDHeysus]

Originally Posted by jason_h537

......Griffey never cheated, he should be the home run king but poor guy got injured......

Let me first state, I dont think Griffey, JR used Steroids, but in the end, I dont know. Junior is one of all time favorite ball players

Junior is a perfect example of what this steroid era has done. Look at his career, he was great right from the start, hitting HR's like a HR king. Then his body broke down, and broke down again, then broke down again. he has never been the same since the mid to late 90's(except 2005). You could make the argument, being it is in the steroid era, that steroids broke his body down. at the very least, it has the appearance of a possible steroid abuse.

Again, I dont think junior used steroids (it certainly would NOT shock me if I found he did) but from the outside looking in, you could make the argument that steroids was the reason his body broke down, and in today's era the cloud of suspicion is all that is needed.

That is how the 'good guys' get lumped in with the 'roid users. Let us not forget, A-Rod and Maniaco was one of the 'good guys' until recently too.

I still like Manny Ramirez tho (ode lea Maniaco!!!!)


Steroids nowadays is like marijuana - you shouldnt be surpirsed when you hear that someone is using it.

[Bubba]

Originally Posted by jason_h537

If you took a drug test at work and the results remained anonymous to the public, the people who failed the drug test would still likely be fired.

Sorry I wasn't more clear. The MLB tests were non-retribution type tests. I was going with the same scenario, however unlikely that might be.

The media is just killing baseball with dragging this out. They need to just come clean. Get it all out and over with so we can move past it. At this point I don't care who's on the list. For all I know the real number of players using greatly exceeded the 7% caught during these tests. Some of the guys were probably smart enough to quit using as soon as the talk about testing started up.