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Old 12-11-2012, 12:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Great Article on true student athletes at ND

This is a great must read article on how ND football players are truly student athletes and members of the university.

At Notre Dame, campus life differs little for students and football stars - Yahoo! Sports
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yeah, but one time a student died in a tragic accident and once a student from a neighboring college with psychological issues took her own life after making unsubstantiated accusations against a football player. So clearly ND has sold out its values to get back to the top! This article clearly has no perspective.

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Old 12-11-2012, 12:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah, but one time a student died in a tragic accident and once a student from a neighboring college with psychological issues took her own life after making unsubstantiated accusations against a football player. So clearly ND has sold out its values to get back to the top! This article clearly has no perspective.

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Old 12-11-2012, 12:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Great read. Thanks for posting this.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah, but one time a student died in a tragic accident and once a student from a neighboring college with psychological issues took her own life after making unsubstantiated accusations against a football player. So clearly ND has sold out its values to get back to the top! This article clearly has no perspective.

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Yes, including this in the article was unfortunate, but the discussion of the football player's classroom and dorm experiences was wonderful.
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Shawnee, I was more talking about how others constantly want to bring that up as a counterweight to what truly differentiates ND from the football factories, using it to undermine or downplay how unique Notre Dame is among its football power peers. It is the go-to factoid for Irish haters, and the most tragically ironic part about it is that the people who do go there don't give a damn about Declan or Lizzy, they're just using them to take a shot at Notre Dame and its community, which actually does give a damn.

Unfortunately, what happened to those two students is a part of the story that will (and probably should) be mentioned when talking about Notre Dame football and its relationship with ND students and its community. But there is a responsible way to weave that into the narrative and a vindictive way to do so.
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Great article. My life's regret is that I never got to attend that magical campus.
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