Go Back   Irish Envy | Notre Dame Football Discussion > Play Like A Champion Today > Notre Dame Football
Front Page Forums REGISTER NOW! Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read
Live Chat Game Arcade Varsity Club

Welcome to IrishEnvy.com! Founded in September of 2004, IrishEnvy.com has grown into the premiere web portal on the Internet for mature and intelligent Notre Dame Fighting Irish athletics discussion!

You are currently viewing our boards as a Guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our FREE online community, you will have access to post and respond to discussions, communicate privately with other members, and access many other special features.

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely FREE, so join the IrishEnvy.com Community today! If you have any problems with the registration process, please contact support and we will assist you.

If you already have an IrishEnvy.com membership account but forgot the username and/or password, use our password recovery tool to access your account information.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-27-2012, 10:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
bobbyok1
Blue Chip Recruit
 
bobbyok1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Stratton, CO
Posts: 287
Cash: 17,119,782.02
Bank: 339,036.76
Total Bankroll: 17,458,818.78
Donate
bobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the community
Chicago Cubs Chicago Bulls Chicago Bears Chicago Blackhawks Notre Dame

Positive article on ND's GSR on ESPN

I grew up in South Bend, but currently live in Oklahoma. I knew about ND's great Graduation Success Rate, but I didnt know how bad Oklahoma's was, only 47%.


NCAA should celebrate Notre Dame's top athletic and academic rankings - ESPN
__________________
"Do right. Do your best. Treat others as you want to be treated." - Lou Holtz
bobbyok1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Don't like this ad? Register to make it go away!

Old 11-27-2012, 10:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
ickythump1225
Sophomore
 
ickythump1225's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,280
Cash: 1,065,142.40
Bank: 144,884.92
Total Bankroll: 1,210,027.32
Donate
ickythump1225 is a leader in the communityickythump1225 is a leader in the communityickythump1225 is a leader in the communityickythump1225 is a leader in the communityickythump1225 is a leader in the communityickythump1225 is a leader in the communityickythump1225 is a leader in the communityickythump1225 is a leader in the communityickythump1225 is a leader in the communityickythump1225 is a leader in the communityickythump1225 is a leader in the community
Atlanta Braves Minnesota Vikings Minnesota Wild Notre Dame USA

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbyok1 View Post
I grew up in South Bend, but currently live in Oklahoma. I knew about ND's great Graduation Success Rate, but I didnt know how bad Oklahoma's was, only 47%.


NCAA should celebrate Notre Dame's top athletic and academic rankings - ESPN
It's good to see this getting some notice. Of course no one wants to mention it because it's embarrassing for the other schools. They'll continue to make excuses about their academics and it sounds more and more hollow with ND at #1 and Stanford in the top 10 and playing for the Pac-12 title.
__________________
“But when you smack a team so many times in the mouth, eventually they’re going to want to stop playing, and that’s what happened today.”-Cierre Wood
ickythump1225 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2012, 02:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
bobbyok1
Blue Chip Recruit
 
bobbyok1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Stratton, CO
Posts: 287
Cash: 17,119,782.02
Bank: 339,036.76
Total Bankroll: 17,458,818.78
Donate
bobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the communitybobbyok1 is a leader in the community
Chicago Cubs Chicago Bulls Chicago Bears Chicago Blackhawks Notre Dame

Quote:
Originally Posted by ickythump1225 View Post
It's good to see this getting some notice. Of course no one wants to mention it because it's embarrassing for the other schools. They'll continue to make excuses about their academics and it sounds more and more hollow with ND at #1 and Stanford in the top 10 and playing for the Pac-12 title.
I'd love for this to get even more publicity on ESPN and other major sports networks. It is such a great selling card to recruits, much more magnified now that they are #1 in the BCS as well. They truly are the total package. "Want to play for the best team in the country AND make a great 40 year decision in your career with a degree from a prestigious academic university? Sign here."
__________________
"Do right. Do your best. Treat others as you want to be treated." - Lou Holtz
bobbyok1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2012, 02:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
Bogtrotter07
Steven Is My Name
 
Bogtrotter07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Hy Many, (Uí Maine) by way of the Black Swamp
Posts: 7,245
Cash: 2,101,839.80
Bank: 72,193,648,717.68
Total Bankroll: 72,195,750,557.48
Donate
Bogtrotter07 should be giving advice to Kelly!Bogtrotter07 should be giving advice to Kelly!Bogtrotter07 should be giving advice to Kelly!Bogtrotter07 should be giving advice to Kelly!Bogtrotter07 should be giving advice to Kelly!Bogtrotter07 should be giving advice to Kelly!Bogtrotter07 should be giving advice to Kelly!Bogtrotter07 should be giving advice to Kelly!Bogtrotter07 should be giving advice to Kelly!Bogtrotter07 should be giving advice to Kelly!Bogtrotter07 should be giving advice to Kelly!




This article actually shocked me! In a really good way.
__________________
"Your island?" “You mean Ireland?” ~ “Yeah. It's mine.” ~ “You're a madman.” ~ Stephen nods and starts laughing, “I've come to the right place, then.”
Bogtrotter07 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2013, 02:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
Whiskeyjack
Community Mod
 
Whiskeyjack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Arizona
Posts: 11,679
Cash: 33,582.18
Bank: 24,236,166,368.55
Total Bankroll: 24,236,199,950.73
Donate
Whiskeyjack should be giving advice to Kelly!Whiskeyjack should be giving advice to Kelly!Whiskeyjack should be giving advice to Kelly!Whiskeyjack should be giving advice to Kelly!Whiskeyjack should be giving advice to Kelly!Whiskeyjack should be giving advice to Kelly!Whiskeyjack should be giving advice to Kelly!Whiskeyjack should be giving advice to Kelly!Whiskeyjack should be giving advice to Kelly!Whiskeyjack should be giving advice to Kelly!Whiskeyjack should be giving advice to Kelly!
Notre Dame




HLS's Bayou Irish just published a good article comparing APR and GSR:

Quote:
In an article last year in the Journal of Intercollegiate Sports, the NCAA’s Principal Research Scientist, Thomas S. Paskus, PhD, wrote that there was a good correlation between APR and GSR. The NCAA expects a 930 APR score to correlate to a fifty percent (50%) graduation rate. I wanted to look at that correlation, and compare the NCAA’s metrics to the FGR for the top four Division I programs in the country in 2012: Alabama, Oregon, Ohio State, and Notre Dame. Here’s how it all shook out...
APR is a useless metric.
__________________
Whiskeyjack is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2013, 05:08 PM   #6 (permalink)
ulukinatme
Choosy Moms choose .GIF
 
ulukinatme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Southwest Ohio
Posts: 6,354
Cash: 4,221.81
Bank: 1,019,994,900.01
Total Bankroll: 1,019,999,121.82
Donate
ulukinatme should be giving advice to Kelly!ulukinatme should be giving advice to Kelly!ulukinatme should be giving advice to Kelly!ulukinatme should be giving advice to Kelly!ulukinatme should be giving advice to Kelly!ulukinatme should be giving advice to Kelly!ulukinatme should be giving advice to Kelly!ulukinatme should be giving advice to Kelly!ulukinatme should be giving advice to Kelly!ulukinatme should be giving advice to Kelly!ulukinatme should be giving advice to Kelly!
Notre Dame



Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiskeyjack View Post
HLS's Bayou Irish just published a good article comparing APR and GSR:



APR is a useless metric.
Don't tell that to some Buckeyes. I singled them out because a few of them were happy to point out they had higher APR numbers over ND recently, however I'm sure other fan bases have puffed their chest out over their figures too. ND's APR is right in line with Stanford and a number of other respected universities. Our last APR is neck and neck with their records for the last 4 years.

APR has some small merit, but it doesn't take into account class difficulty if I recall. Easy to hold an A if you're at Michigan taking Sports Management, but it may be a bit tougher if you're in Engineering or Finance at a different college. It's also not a good comparison tool at all between different universities.

Here, from the WIKI gods:
Quote:
For example, one institution may have an APR representing that only 50% of athletes are on track to graduate which seems like athletes are under performing at the university. However, if the graduation rate for non-athletes is also 50% then the low graduation rate for the athletes is not a student-athlete problem, but a university wide problem.[20] Another common misuse of the data occurs when APR results are compared between universities. This is usually not a valid comparison unless it is viewed alongside the graduation rates for non athletes at the institution. Furthermore, it is not always relevant to compare APR scores across universities because the academic rigors between universities differ. For example, at some high performing academic universities freshman struggle with eligibility because the workload is hard to deal with initially, but in the end, those students find academic success
Since our graduation rates are at the top, and our APR is in line with other universities with similar structures, you can see that the APR isn't a good measurement for ND as a university. If anything, the very high graduation rate and lower APR can show tougher workloads.

Last edited by ulukinatme; 07-03-2013 at 05:11 PM..
ulukinatme is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2013, 05:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
IrishJayhawk
Rock Chalk
 
IrishJayhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,587
Cash: 6,591,033.44
Bank: 731,117,850.15
Total Bankroll: 737,708,883.59
Donate
IrishJayhawk should be giving advice to Kelly!IrishJayhawk should be giving advice to Kelly!IrishJayhawk should be giving advice to Kelly!IrishJayhawk should be giving advice to Kelly!IrishJayhawk should be giving advice to Kelly!IrishJayhawk should be giving advice to Kelly!IrishJayhawk should be giving advice to Kelly!IrishJayhawk should be giving advice to Kelly!IrishJayhawk should be giving advice to Kelly!IrishJayhawk should be giving advice to Kelly!IrishJayhawk should be giving advice to Kelly!
Chicago Cubs Chicago Bears Kansas



Just typical ESPN anti-ND bias.
__________________
What I have to say is very important.
IrishJayhawk is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




Copyright © 2004 - 2013 IrishEnvy.com. All Rights Reserved. All material on this Notre Dame Fighting Irish discussion forum is strictly for entertainment purposes only. This site and any pages within are in no way affiliated with the University of Notre Dame, the Big East Conference or the National Collegiate Athletic Association. Any images, copyrights, or trademarks used on this site are used under the "Fair Use Provision" of the Copyright Act for purposes of comment, criticism, and news reporting. SEO by vBSEO 3.7.4

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32