Manti Te'o for Heisman

[Title2014]

Originally Posted by philipm31

How?

The Heisman is NOT about bowl games. It is about what you have done in your body of work during the previous four months.

Whether or not ND is in the NCG is totally irrelevant to the Heisman. This year it might actually go to the best player in the nation instead of to the best player on the best team in the nation, which would be nice to see it actually have some legitimacy again, after the way that RGIII came out of nowhere to win it even though his team has 3 Losses.

Because Manti is at a huge disadvantage because he's a linebacker and not being on one of the top 2 teams in the country would kill his chances for late voters. I was wrong and we will leapfrog KSU with a win at USC though, and I think Manti took the lead tonight with his stellar game.

[ACamp1900]

Things can obviously change, but right Now it's a two horse race,... Klein and Teo

[Title2014]

Originally Posted by ACamp1900

Things can obviously change, but right Now it's a two horse race,... Klein and Teo

McCarron is close on the outside but after that it is just a huge drop off. Oregon spreads the production around too much to have a Heisman candidate, USC is too bad for Barkley, Jarvis Jones disappeared for a stretch, and I can't think of another player who would even be considered by anyone.

[Whiskeyjack]

Originally Posted by Title2014

Because Manti is at a huge disadvantage because he's a linebacker and not being on one of the top 2 teams in the country would kill his chances for late voters. I was wrong and we will leapfrog KSU with a win at USC though, and I think Manti took the lead tonight with his stellar game.

Te'o also has a lot of other intangible stuff going for him that Klein doesn't. Leading the resurgent defense that is returning ND to glory, persevering and playing dominant football through the deaths of his g/f and grandmother, just having a compelling personal story, etc.

None of that stuff is "supposed" to matter in Heisman voting, but it does. I think the fact that Te'o would be the first and only purely defensive winner also militates in his favor. If it comes down to Klein v. Te'o, and both teams are still undefeated, I'm confident Te'o would win it. It's simply a better story.

[clashmore_mike]

Originally Posted by peoriairish

Jones has been hurt too much. And there is no way Geno is still in it. He would be a 8-10th round pick if coming into the draft right now. He's atrocious.

I kinda agree with your top 4 though. I would put it at 1a and 1b with Klein and T'eo though.

Geno is the #1 qb on most draft boards. Its safe to assume he'd be picked slightly higher than the 8th round.

[ThePiombino]

Originally Posted by clashmore_mike

Geno is the #1 qb on most draft boards. Its safe to assume he'd be picked slightly higher than the 8th round.

...but why let reality get in the way?

As for Manti, let's just hope the voters consider the intangibles, because when you consider that AND what he's done on the field- there is NO ONE better this year.

[CTIDANDREW]

Originally Posted by clashmore_mike

Geno is the #1 qb on most draft boards. Its safe to assume he'd be picked slightly higher than the 8th round.

Yeah I kind of laughed at that as well. Atrocious is kinda harsh for a guy that's threw something like 26 TD's this season..

Manti winning the Heisman was a dream after MSU...its looking more and more like reality every passing week. Just Keep Winning!