Superconferences & Realignment - Page 34 - Irish Envy

**BGIF** · 09-20-2011, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlyle Javar Holiday

If these superconferences decide to make their own governing body and dump the NCAA, they could do as they please. No one is saying that these smaller less popular schools cannot form their own governing body and have their own playoff system and generate revenue on their own. It is inevitable. The superconferences can defect from the NCAA and make their own sanctioning body while colleges still under the NCAA governing body could be in the BCS. Then the BCS would simply be irrelevant and the new playoff system would emerge in popularity for obvious reasons.

Not that simple.

~~**Carlyle Javar Holiday**~~ · 09-20-2011, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGIF

Not that simple.

What exactly is a 16 team 4 conference system restraining in terms of competition and fair trade? I tend to think that it actually promotes competition rather than suppresses it. It actually opens the door for some of these smaller schools to get into the national championship picture. No one says there can't be play in games for the two teams with the worst records. Teams like Boise St and TCU would actually benefit from a system of this nature by giving them an opportunity that they currently do not have with the BCS format.

**Old Man Mike** · 09-20-2011, 08:09 AM

BGIFs point cannot be simply dismissed. The government does not have to see only one monopolizing entity to sense monopoly. The four conferences might want to claim that they are four sovereign entities, but if their practices in fact outlaw other potential genuine competitors for ancillary opportunities within reasonable business expectations, then in principle the matter could be considered monopolistic.

The issue of course would be would any school group of sufficient clout and argument want to pursue this. Notre Dame alone might not. If Texas is independent too, I would bet that this combination would not only pursue it but "win". An intermediate question would be whether some combination of ND w/o Texas but including Boise, TCU, BYU, etc had enough clout.

An entirely different issue, but not utterly thoughtless, is that if Notre Dame [and other independents or "lesser conferenced teams"] can maintain good schedules AND go undefeated, then the football public will be very unhappy with the freeze-out situation as creating NCs with "asterisks". Our current situation is at least in theory open to the possibility of "intruders" playing for the NC. I don't believe that we nor the speculated super-monopoly should blithely ignore the attitude of fans.

**brucejcarr** · 09-20-2011, 08:18 AM

Reports today on Mike & Mike in the Morning on ESPN Radio, that ND might be interested in joining the ACC.

Thoughts?

**kuehnja** · 09-20-2011, 08:22 AM

**kuehnja** · 09-20-2011, 08:26 AM

I always thought we were going to be big 10. I wonder what Big 10 rivalry games we would keep? Michigan might be all.

**nlroma1o** · 09-20-2011, 08:30 AM

I hope not....

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