Do 4 and 3 star players become All-Americans? - Irish Envy

**Easton Pa ND Fan** · 02-09-2010, 10:28 AM

Yes, the proportion is greater at the 5 and 4 star level
compared to the 3 star recruits (as expected). A clear
analysis is provided at the link below. "Bob Drake" at
NotreDameFans was the original source for this post...Tom

Mister Relevant: Why you shouldn't dismiss recruiting rankings - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF Blog - Yahoo! Sports

**DKSchrute** · 02-09-2010, 11:59 AM

This recruiting stuff is as hit and miss as it gets. What I figured though is about how it plays out. The 5 star guys are 10 times more likely to become elite players than the 2 and 3s. Thats why everyone wants them but only the top 5 programs get them, hence the reason they are top 5.

Notre Dame is a 6-6 program, until it changes the top guys are not considering ND

IrishJayhawk · 02-09-2010, 12:00 PM

Would be interesting to see these numbers comparing Rivals, Scout, and ESPN. Who does the best job?

**IrishInFL** · 02-09-2010, 12:10 PM

How many 3* become heisman winners? Sam Bradford comes to mind, but I can't think of anyone else.

**49er-Irish** · 02-09-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishInFL

How many 3* become heisman winners? Sam Bradford comes to mind, but I can't think of anyone else.

Rivals rankings star rankings started in 2002, so only the last five Heisman winners had star rankings. And yeah, Bradford has been the only 3* winner.

Reggie Bush -5*
Troy Smith - 4*
Tim Tebow - 5*
Sam Bradford - 3*
Mark Ingram - 4*

**irishmarine** · 02-09-2010, 01:15 PM

Developemen has so much to do with it too. Natural talent can get you through high svmchool but against top talent you have to hve a coach who can teach you technique and fundamentals

**phork** · 02-09-2010, 03:49 PM

Just for shits and giggles go take a look at Rivals top prospects by position for the last 5 years or so. Not a lot of those names stayed at the top. Interesting.

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Easton Pa ND Fan Freshman Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Triangle (lopsided) with NY/Phila Posts: 569 Cash: 70,581.51 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 70,581.51 Donate	Do 4 and 3 star players become All-Americans? Yes, the proportion is greater at the 5 and 4 star level compared to the 3 star recruits (as expected). A clear analysis is provided at the link below. "Bob Drake" at NotreDameFans was the original source for this post...Tom Mister Relevant: Why you shouldn't dismiss recruiting rankings - Dr. Saturday - NCAAF Blog - Yahoo! Sports

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DKSchrute Angela and Beets Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Joliet, IL Posts: 164 Cash: 25,116.68 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 25,116.68 Donate	This recruiting stuff is as hit and miss as it gets. What I figured though is about how it plays out. The 5 star guys are 10 times more likely to become elite players than the 2 and 3s. Thats why everyone wants them but only the top 5 programs get them, hence the reason they are top 5. Notre Dame is a 6-6 program, until it changes the top guys are not considering ND

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irishmarine Junior Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: las vegas nevada Posts: 1,745 Cash: 34,851.06 Bank: 31,388.53 Total Bankroll: 66,239.59 Donate	Developemen has so much to do with it too. Natural talent can get you through high svmchool but against top talent you have to hve a coach who can teach you technique and fundamentals

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phork Raining On Your Parade Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,665 Cash: 90,894.12 Bank: 672,601.95 Total Bankroll: 763,496.07 Donate	Just for shits and giggles go take a look at Rivals top prospects by position for the last 5 years or so. Not a lot of those names stayed at the top. Interesting.

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