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Old 01-11-2017, 04:26 PM   #1681 (permalink)
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So, your saying it is all becoming clear now?



Well, I think it is actually change for necessities sake.

Guys, Brian Kelly isn't getting it done, won't be getting it done, doesn't want to get it done. All good 'ol Brian Kelly wants is as much money as he can get, and to land on his feet.

On the other had, ND wants to avoid a huge payout.

And by the way, since Kelly refused to give his best effort, (not handling the BVG situation is all the PROOF you need,) why should the school pay an exorbitant amount of money for such a do nothing loser. If you need look any farther, check and see how many members of the 2017 class he has contacted.

Pardon me if I respectfully disagree with the idea of putting any more money in his pockets!

No, I think ND should just use him to resolve the heat until they can get a better coach in the next cycle.
Isn't this all relative though? If the product you keep putting out is crap, then you lose interest of a fan base, who will potentially not come to games/stimulate the SB/ND economy in the fall until change is made. Conversely if you are winning, you are making more money, putting out a better product, getting the bowl money etc, hence being able to pay out contract buy outs, and hire coaches for more money. At least that is my dumbed down view of the economics of it.
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Old 01-11-2017, 05:22 PM   #1682 (permalink)
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The whole avoiding BKs buyout doesn't make any sense if ur going to hire another coach next year and have to pay the future obligations to ur new stuff hires from this year. keep Kelly one more year limits his buyout, but all we did was add future obligations to elko, lea, long, and Alexander.

Seems like net nothing.
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Old 01-11-2017, 05:28 PM   #1683 (permalink)
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The whole avoiding BKs buyout doesn't make any sense if ur going to hire another coach next year and have to pay the future obligations to ur new stuff hires from this year. keep Kelly one more year limits his buyout, but all we did was add future obligations to elko, lea, long, and Alexander.

Seems like net nothing.
I'd agree with that if the goal was to simply mitigate Kelly's buyout by a single year. But I think the idea is to do well in 2017 so that Kelly can jump to a new job immediately, which means ND doesn't pay any of his $25m buyout. No idea how realistic that is, but if they can pull it off, saving that kind of money would make a serious difference in the sort of coaches we can pursue next year.
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Old 01-11-2017, 05:32 PM   #1684 (permalink)
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I'd agree with that if the goal was to simply mitigate Kelly's buyout by a single year. But I think the idea is to do well in 2017 so that Kelly can jump to a new job immediately, which means ND doesn't pay any of his $25m buyout. No idea how realistic that is, but if they can pull it off, saving that kind of money would make a serious difference in the sort of coaches we can pursue next year.
He'd have to make the playoffs or more to get a team to pay for that whole buyout. Maybe an arrangement is made?
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He'd have to make the playoffs or more to get a team to pay for that whole buyout. Maybe an arrangement is made?
Buy-out provisions often go both ways. If ND fires Kelly now, they owe him $25 million. And presumably, if Kelly left for another school, ND could demand a large chunk of change since he's still under contract. But since ND is looking to get out of the first provision, they could offer to waive their right to second. I assume Kelly and Jack have hashed this out, and since Kelly wants to continue coaching, they've both agreed it's in his best interest to do well in 2017 and jump to a new school without crashing his career trajectory. That way Kelly's still making millions annually, he still looks like an attractive coach (if you squint really hard), and ND avoids a $25 million loss.
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I'd agree with that if the goal was to simply mitigate Kelly's buyout by a single year. But I think the idea is to do well in 2017 so that Kelly can jump to a new job immediately, which means ND doesn't pay any of his $25m buyout. No idea how realistic that is, but if they can pull it off, saving that kind of money would make a serious difference in the sort of coaches we can pursue next year.
Shouldn't the idea be too do well every year? Sounds like this was a dumb gamble.
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Shouldn't the idea be too do well every year? Sounds like this was a dumb gamble.
Eating a $25m buyout to take a chance on someone like Narduzzi sounds like a better bet to you? It's definitely a gamble which may very well backfire, but given my understanding of our options last quarter, this route makes a certain kind of sense.
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