Ty Willingham: Stay or Go?

[bruno1953]

TY MUST GO! For any logical thinking person, this is an easy decision. He's had his chances, screwed them up, now pay the price for it.
Please Kevin White, wake up, pull the thunder from the skies, let this man go and get us Urban Meyer.

[bliv711]

OK,

I'm new to this forum, so don't beat me up too bad. Ty should go. The way I see it, we had enough talent/guts to beat teams like Michigan and Tennessee. In fact, we are only one of two teams to my knowledge to beat two teams that were ranked in the top 10 at the time. Auburn I believe is the other. But to lose at home to teams like BC and Pitt and on the road to BYU...when we are obviously more talented, indicates to me a flaw in the coaching or just downright bad coaching. I do agree it takes some patience to get a program back on track, but we should be seeing some results by now. And it makes me sick to my stomach to hear Ty say stuff like if 10 more plays were different, we'd only have one loss at this point. Shoot, you take away three plays (Mich St.- fumble recovery for TD and goal line Mich St. fumble) and (UT - fumble recovery for TD) and we'd be 4-6 at this point. Regardless, I think Ty's with us for another year for whatever reason. Believe me, he will be gone after next season. He just doesn't have what it takes to coach in a major college football program. And we knew this before we hired him. Who do I think will replace him? Meyer? Not sure he's proven enough. Gruden? Who knows. Some say he's not that great of a coach in the NFL. I'm not sure I agree. Take Pete Carroll...he was worthless in the NFL...he took over a Super Bowl Champ in N.E. and they got worse each year...but look what he's done with the USC program. Any other thought?

[QueensNY]

For everyone who says Urban Meyer isn't ready lets see if he beats BYU tomorrow. We lost to BYU with all our talent, lets see if Utah with not much talented players can beat BYU.

[irishtexan]

Originally Posted by QueensNY

For everyone who says Urban Meyer isn't ready lets see if he beats BYU tomorrow. We lost to BYU with all our talent, lets see if Utah with not much talented players can beat BYU.

BYU freakin sucks. I bet that Utah kills them. When we lost to them It honestly was one of the most pathetic performances for a Division 1 football team that I have ever seen. I wonder if Ty ever goes to any of these sites and reads what the fans think of him. If he does, QUIT COACHING YOU SUCK.

[Vince Young]

Originally Posted by QueensNY

For everyone who says Urban Meyer isn't ready lets see if he beats BYU tomorrow. We lost to BYU with all our talent, lets see if Utah with not much talented players can beat BYU.

Well, here we go again... the same people who disagreed with the reasons we hired Ty are using the SAME reasons to advocate hiring Urban Meyer.

"Well, Ty beat Notre Dame every time he coached against them, so let's hire him!"

"Well, Urban Meyer is gonna beat a team we lost to, so let's hire him!"

Sound familiar?

If you're gonna fire Ty, AT LEAST hire someone who you know will do better. I'd rather give Ty one more year to turn things around than rush into hiring yet another question mark of a coach. Notre Dame is not a football team to take risks with. We've had enough of that already.

[bliv711]

Originally Posted by Vince Young

Well, here we go again... the same people who disagreed with the reasons we hired Ty are using the SAME reasons to advocate hiring Urban Meyer.

"Well, Ty beat Notre Dame every time he coached against them, so let's hire him!"

"Well, Urban Meyer is gonna beat a team we lost to, so let's hire him!"

Sound familiar?

If you're gonna fire Ty, AT LEAST hire someone who you know will do better. I'd rather give Ty one more year to turn things around than rush into hiring yet another question mark of a coach. Notre Dame is not a football team to take risks with. We've had enough of that already.

I agree with you. Maybe Urban Meyer is the man. Although I am quite knowledgable about college football, I couldn't tell you much about the man with the exception of this year in Utah and his lackluster time with ND. As is general knowledge in the college football world, the assistant coaches do the bulk of the recruiting. The head coach just closes the deals...especially with the 5-star athletes. I have a tough time remembering our receiver studs during Meyers reign as assistant. I could be wrong. Like I said earlier, maybe he is the man...just make sure hiring him is not based on a great season against generally subpar teams (yes, Texas A&M, you suck) like we did with Ty and Stanford. We desperately need someone who can recruit...one who is a proven recruiter. Obviously Ty is not the man here. How many blue-chip recruits has he let slide through our fingers?

I don't have the answers other than I think we will probably give Ty another year, regardless of how he does against USC and/or a bowl game. Next season, we need to be scrutinizing whether Ty has truly 'returned us to glory' or not. But more than that, we need to look at the upcoming recruiting class. We also need to make the search for a new coach a complete search and hire the best guy. Remember, Ty was hired in a hurry because of the O'Leary scandal...and I think the Political Correctness Police had a role in his hiring.

[QueensNY]

I never wanted Ty to come here. I thought he was very inconsistent with stanford, wasn't impressed with him at all.
With Urban I see a guy that has already turned 2 football programs around in his 4 years of coaching. I remember another guy that could turn football programs around over night, a guy named lou holtz.
As for the argument that Urban didn't do a great job as a receiver coach here, well I'll answer that. The OC coach and HC were aweful coaches, I don't care if you have the best wide receiver coach in football if the OC and HC coaches are calling silly and stupid plays the receivers aren't goin to make the plays, no matter how good the receiving coach is. Look at how good David Givens is doing, Urban taught him how to play the position at ND, but the coaches never instituded him in any of the gameplans.