OSU-ND would be ratings bonanza for TV - Notre Dame Football Discussion

**EnviedOne** · 12-01-2005, 11:58 AM

Ohio State has Hopalong Cassady, Archie Griffin and Woody Hayes. Notre Dame has the Four Horsemen, Touchdown Jesus and Knute Rockne. Pitting Ohio State against Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl on Jan. 2 would be a ratings bonanza for television.

A lot of people would tune in to watch the "Duel in the Desert" between Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn and Ohio State linebacker A.J. Hawk.

Of course, we're assuming that Ohio State and Notre Dame will get at-large invitations to the Fiesta Bowl on Sunday, and that there will be no major upsets involving the nation's top teams this weekend.

"Ohio State-Notre Dame would be a great matchup," said Alan Young, the selection committee chairman for the Fiesta Bowl. "They've only played four times. We're just realizing how important that would be."

The Fiesta Bowl has the first and third picks in the Bowl Championship Series lottery. The Orange Bowl has the second choice, and the Sugar Bowl the fourth.

Champions of the six BCS conferences are guaranteed spots in the four BCS bowls. The remaining two openings are filled by at-large teams that must have nine wins and be in the top 12 of the final BCS standings.

Ohio State, No. 6 in the rankings, and Notre Dame, No. 8, both qualify.
Notre Dame is the national darling.

The Fighting Irish are a virtual lock for the Fiesta Bowl.

Ohio State, meanwhile, is the odds-on-favorite to be paired against Notre Dame.

However, Fiesta Bowl officials have become more and more tight-lipped as decision day draws closer.

Oregon, which finished 10-1 and lost only to Southern Cal, is also under consideration for an at-large bid, as is longshot Auburn at 9-2.

Oregon officials have been lobbying Fiesta Bowl execs for weeks.

Maybe the BCS does owe one to the Pac-10 after California got shut out last season.

But does Notre Dame-Oregon or Notre Dame-Auburn make more sense than Ohio State-Notre Dame?

Nah.

Not even close.

Love 'em or hate 'em, all eyes are on the Irish, who have lost their last seven bowl games, including two Fiestas by a combined score of 82-33.

The way it looks now, a showdown between Ohio State and Notre Dame - just 2-2 against each other since the Buckeyes first started playing football in 1890 - would get overshadowed only by No. 1 USC playing No. 2 Texas for the national championship in the Rose Bowl.

"We'll look at all the matchups," Young said. "If you have to prioritize what we look at, No. 1 would be the most exciting game to watch."

The Buckeyes finished with a flourish, winning their final six games to end 9-2 and earn a share of the Big Ten title.

The Fighting Irish also are 9-2, winning their last five under first-year coach Charlie Weis.

Ohio State played in the 2002 Fiesta Bowl, beating Miami 31-24 in double overtime to win the national championship, and again in 2003 when they edged Kansas State 35-28.

The Buckeyes appear to be headed back to the desert for the third time in four years.
And they're not afraid of the ghost of the Gipper or the golden domers, having won the last two meetings with Notre Dame in the 1990s.

Source: Toledo Blade

**jiggafini19** · 12-01-2005, 12:00 PM

The thought of playing Ohio State is the most appealing to me.

Oregon and Auburn, not so much.

Auburn worries me the most of the three.

South Side Irish · 12-01-2005, 01:21 PM

I believe ND matches up much better to OSU than the others. I think ND would have some success on the Buckeyes secondary. The run, on the other hand, may be difficult. We can control their Offense pretty well.

**Domer95** · 12-01-2005, 01:43 PM

"Love 'em or hate 'em, all eyes are on the Irish, who have lost their last seven bowl games, including two Fiestas by a combined score of 82-33."

OUCH!!!! (hopefully) ANOTHER few pound of flesh to be extracted (hey, a decade long bowl drought will do that) in the desert......

I think that this quote says it all, "We'll look at all the matchups," Young said. "If you have to prioritize what we look at, No. 1 would be the most exciting game to watch." = Quackers, book your tickets NOW to SD.

**bigdon** · 12-01-2005, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Domer95

"Love 'em or hate 'em, all eyes are on the Irish, who have lost their last seven bowl games, including two Fiestas by a combined score of 82-33."
OUCH!!!! (hopefully) ANOTHER few pound of flesh to be extracted (hey, a decade long bowl drought will do that) in the desert......
I think that this quote says it all, "We'll look at all the matchups," Young said. "If you have to prioritize what we look at, No. 1 would be the most exciting game to watch." = Quackers, book your tickets NOW to SD.

First let me say that ,like just about everyone else, I think ND-OSU is the best matchup. There are about 40,000 OSU alumni in the general area of Phoenix and ND has scads of people all over. Great game!!!

But for Young to say they are looking for the best matchup he is not speaking about the field of play. He is speaking about the matchup that would bring in the most money because that is his job. Naturally, if he says that he would be fired but that is the reality of the bowl games.

The Fiesta bowl committee is one of the most experienced and knowledgeable in the business. And, YES, this is a business.

LuckyDUCK · 12-01-2005, 07:17 PM

I was just reading one of our papers with an article about ow much more deserving ND beloongs in the Fiestia. They talk about a turnaround year for them. Oregon won 5 last year, and 10 this year. Is that not turn around. Also the talk about the History

“Any bowl has to look at Notre Dame,” Fiesta Bowl CEO John Junker said. “There is what I call the evergreen elements of Notre Dame. There is the history, the story of the fans, the national interest.

Here's the link
link:http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journal...s/13290667.htm

This is why Oregon can't get in. But they also talk about a ND-Oregon matchup. Since ND has had a good season and Ohio has been to this bowl 3 out f the last 4 years, that they need new blood. Why not Oregon - ND. Would be a nice whipping on ND. By the way , You also have a good in with Fiesta bowl pres. heard he graduated from Ohio State.

12-01-2005, 08:00 PM

Deserving??? All these posts and articles talk of the most "exciting" matchup for the BCS. That's great and all, but these arguments assume that notre dame is actually worthy of playing in a BCS game. You guys have beat a total of 3 teams over .500. You lost to a miserable michigan state team. Sure you played USC close, but who cares when you nearly get humiliated by the Cardinal. I love the argument about you are more deserving than Oregon because you lost to USC by less than they did... ok, how about our games against Stanford? Washington? good arguments. In reality, ohio state, oregon, and even auburn, if not more teams, are better and more qualified to play in the Fiesta Bowl. In a perfect world, Ohio State and Oregon would be playing each other because those two teams are undoubtedly more qualified than notre dame and the others. Unfortunately, the system is far from perfect and the deserving teams notoriously get snubbed, especially on the west coast. Notre Dame fan may be right in saying they will be playing Ohio State in Tempe. However, I want nothing more than to see Oregon embarass Notre Dame on the big stage just as Oregon State has done twice this decade already.

12-01-2005, 11:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
EnviedOne Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Envy HQ Posts: 24,935 Cash: 302,443.51 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 302,443.51 Donate	OSU-ND would be ratings bonanza for TV Ohio State has Hopalong Cassady, Archie Griffin and Woody Hayes. Notre Dame has the Four Horsemen, Touchdown Jesus and Knute Rockne. Pitting Ohio State against Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl on Jan. 2 would be a ratings bonanza for television. A lot of people would tune in to watch the "Duel in the Desert" between Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn and Ohio State linebacker A.J. Hawk. Of course, we're assuming that Ohio State and Notre Dame will get at-large invitations to the Fiesta Bowl on Sunday, and that there will be no major upsets involving the nation's top teams this weekend. "Ohio State-Notre Dame would be a great matchup," said Alan Young, the selection committee chairman for the Fiesta Bowl. "They've only played four times. We're just realizing how important that would be." The Fiesta Bowl has the first and third picks in the Bowl Championship Series lottery. The Orange Bowl has the second choice, and the Sugar Bowl the fourth. Champions of the six BCS conferences are guaranteed spots in the four BCS bowls. The remaining two openings are filled by at-large teams that must have nine wins and be in the top 12 of the final BCS standings. Ohio State, No. 6 in the rankings, and Notre Dame, No. 8, both qualify. Notre Dame is the national darling. The Fighting Irish are a virtual lock for the Fiesta Bowl. Ohio State, meanwhile, is the odds-on-favorite to be paired against Notre Dame. However, Fiesta Bowl officials have become more and more tight-lipped as decision day draws closer. Oregon, which finished 10-1 and lost only to Southern Cal, is also under consideration for an at-large bid, as is longshot Auburn at 9-2. Oregon officials have been lobbying Fiesta Bowl execs for weeks. Maybe the BCS does owe one to the Pac-10 after California got shut out last season. But does Notre Dame-Oregon or Notre Dame-Auburn make more sense than Ohio State-Notre Dame? Nah. Not even close. Love 'em or hate 'em, all eyes are on the Irish, who have lost their last seven bowl games, including two Fiestas by a combined score of 82-33. The way it looks now, a showdown between Ohio State and Notre Dame - just 2-2 against each other since the Buckeyes first started playing football in 1890 - would get overshadowed only by No. 1 USC playing No. 2 Texas for the national championship in the Rose Bowl. "We'll look at all the matchups," Young said. "If you have to prioritize what we look at, No. 1 would be the most exciting game to watch." The Buckeyes finished with a flourish, winning their final six games to end 9-2 and earn a share of the Big Ten title. The Fighting Irish also are 9-2, winning their last five under first-year coach Charlie Weis. Ohio State played in the 2002 Fiesta Bowl, beating Miami 31-24 in double overtime to win the national championship, and again in 2003 when they edged Kansas State 35-28. The Buckeyes appear to be headed back to the desert for the third time in four years. And they're not afraid of the ghost of the Gipper or the golden domers, having won the last two meetings with Notre Dame in the 1990s. Source: Toledo Blade __________________ IRISHENVY - MATURE AND INTELLIGENT NOTRE DAME DISCUSSION Notre Dame Ringtones - Browse a Collection of Notre Dame Ringtones! T-Shirt Promotion - Get a Free IrishEnvy T-Shirt!

12-01-2005, 01:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
South Side Irish Waterboy Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4 Cash: 1,002.75 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 1,002.75 Donate	ND v OSU I believe ND matches up much better to OSU than the others. I think ND would have some success on the Buckeyes secondary. The run, on the other hand, may be difficult. We can control their Offense pretty well.

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12-01-2005, 12:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
jiggafini19 Chicago Rhetoric Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,362 Cash: 19,954.87 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 19,954.87 Donate	The thought of playing Ohio State is the most appealing to me. Oregon and Auburn, not so much. Auburn worries me the most of the three.

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Domer95 Varsity Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Jersey Shore/NYC Posts: 625 Cash: 11,883.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 11,883.00 Donate	"Love 'em or hate 'em, all eyes are on the Irish, who have lost their last seven bowl games, including two Fiestas by a combined score of 82-33." OUCH!!!! (hopefully) ANOTHER few pound of flesh to be extracted (hey, a decade long bowl drought will do that) in the desert...... I think that this quote says it all, "We'll look at all the matchups," Young said. "If you have to prioritize what we look at, No. 1 would be the most exciting game to watch." = Quackers, book your tickets NOW to SD.

12-01-2005, 07:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
LuckyDUCK Waterboy Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 9 Cash: 1,003.50 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 1,003.50 Donate	I was just reading one of our papers with an article about ow much more deserving ND beloongs in the Fiestia. They talk about a turnaround year for them. Oregon won 5 last year, and 10 this year. Is that not turn around. Also the talk about the History “Any bowl has to look at Notre Dame,” Fiesta Bowl CEO John Junker said. “There is what I call the evergreen elements of Notre Dame. There is the history, the story of the fans, the national interest. Here's the link link:http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journal...s/13290667.htm This is why Oregon can't get in. But they also talk about a ND-Oregon matchup. Since ND has had a good season and Ohio has been to this bowl 3 out f the last 4 years, that they need new blood. Why not Oregon - ND. Would be a nice whipping on ND. By the way , You also have a good in with Fiesta bowl pres. heard he graduated from Ohio State.

12-01-2005, 08:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
DucksToFiesta Guest Posts: n/a Cash: 0 Bank: 0 Total Bankroll: 0 Donate	Deserving??? All these posts and articles talk of the most "exciting" matchup for the BCS. That's great and all, but these arguments assume that notre dame is actually worthy of playing in a BCS game. You guys have beat a total of 3 teams over .500. You lost to a miserable michigan state team. Sure you played USC close, but who cares when you nearly get humiliated by the Cardinal. I love the argument about you are more deserving than Oregon because you lost to USC by less than they did... ok, how about our games against Stanford? Washington? good arguments. In reality, ohio state, oregon, and even auburn, if not more teams, are better and more qualified to play in the Fiesta Bowl. In a perfect world, Ohio State and Oregon would be playing each other because those two teams are undoubtedly more qualified than notre dame and the others. Unfortunately, the system is far from perfect and the deserving teams notoriously get snubbed, especially on the west coast. Notre Dame fan may be right in saying they will be playing Ohio State in Tempe. However, I want nothing more than to see Oregon embarass Notre Dame on the big stage just as Oregon State has done twice this decade already.

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