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Old 07-10-2012, 11:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Black Legion, indicates the begining of ND - UofM rivalry?

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The Black Legion was founded in the mid-1920s as the Black Guards, a security force for the officers of the Ohio Ku Klux Klan. A Michigan regiment was established in 1931, with Arthur Lupp of Highland Park as its major general. Organized along military lines, the Michigan Legion had five brigades, 16 regiments, 64 batallions, and 256 companies. Although its members boasted that there were one million legionaires in Michigan, it probably had only between 20,000 and 30,000 members in the state in the 1930s, one third of whom lived in Detroit.

The legion had various fronts to cover its activities, such as the Wayne County Rifle and Pistol Club, whose members frequented a downtown Detroit sporting goods store with a backroom firing range. It also had a political front as well, the Wolverine Republican Club. The legion's political objectives were broad and, at the same time, narrowly specific. As one of its promotional pieces stated, "we will fight political Romanism [the Catholic Church], Judaism, Communism, and all 'isms' which our forefathers came to this country to avoid."

Some legionaires, more inclined toward outright violence for the sake of violence, went further in their plots to rid America of those they called undesirables than fearmongering and night riding. It was alleged, for instance, that Major General Lupp had explored ways to inject typhoid germs into milk and cheese delivered to specific undesirable neighborhoods in Detroit. The fact that Lupp was an inspector for the Detroit Department of Public Health lent some credence to this story, in the minds of many who heard it.
The above is a quote from an article in the Detroit News, August 5, 1997 about the murder of Charles Poole, a union organizer.

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Old 07-10-2012, 11:33 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Are you asking if it was, saying that it is, or saying that it should be?
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Considering, ND and UM didnt play between 1908 and 1942, I dont think the black legion really fueled the rivalry between schools... I'm sure it helped many ND and UM patrons come to the realization that there was a group of crazies on the loose in the greater Detroit area. LOL
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Considering, ND and UM didnt play between 1908 and 1942, I dont think the black legion really fueled the rivalry between schools... I'm sure it helped many ND and UM patrons come to the realization that there was a group of crazies on the loose in the greater Detroit area. LOL
Probably not, but it does provide some context for that period in the history between the two schools. The Black Legion and the University of Michigan's attitude towards Notre Dame at that time are different symptoms of the same disease.
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Are you asking if it was, saying that it is, or saying that it should be?
Would think that it was the deep seated prejudice behind what lead to this article. One branch of my family landed at Grosse Ille through French Canada with the Ford family, and worked their way down to Gross Point Farms. The generation born in the 1850's recounts intollerable prejutices and indignities. It was until the generation born in the latter 1880's in my family, that being spit on in the street became a thing of the past.

I just documented the 1920' and 1930's version, (fifty years later), where it tied nicely to the Michigan area and identity of the football team. Someone can document better than I if the dustup that occurred happened as I have read 1) after ND (the upstart) first beat F Yost's victors; 2) After ND was handed the nickname "Fighting Irish"; 3) and for any reason other than the first two.
 
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Considering, ND and UM didnt play between 1908 and 1942, I dont think the black legion really fueled the rivalry between schools... I'm sure it helped many ND and UM patrons come to the realization that there was a group of crazies on the loose in the greater Detroit area. LOL
Why was that that they didn't play? And 20 to 30k members isn't just crazies running around loose in the greater Detroit area. That is a substantial number of residents.

The point isn't about the Black Legion, it is the prejudice that fueled it, and what the actual history was between UofM and ND.

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Why was that that they didn't play? And 20 to 30k members isn't just crazies running around loose in the greater Detroit area. That is a substantial number of residents.

The point isn't about the Black Legion, it is the prejudice that fueled it, and what the actual history was between UofM and ND.
Not to mention the probable amounts of regular civilians that supported their cause. For any upstart group to exist and survive like that, they need population support. So it was probably a common feeling amongst the population of certain areas...
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