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Old 11-13-2013, 04:12 PM   #1639 (permalink)
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I'm still super pissed about that late push forward... of all the massive screw ups in American sports history...

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Old 11-13-2013, 04:21 PM   #1640 (permalink)
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Agreed Acamp. Watch them knock us out in the round of 16.

Best hope here is New Zealand can steal a goal back and not concede anymore, and somehow get up on Mexico when they go back to New Zealand. New Zealand would win because of away goal differential.
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Old 11-21-2013, 07:51 AM   #1641 (permalink)
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After sub-par matches vs. Scotland and Austria (admittedly not our best sides), who do you guys see in the starting XI and on the roster at the WC next summer?

My thoughts:
- Brek Shea is good... off the bench. His energy seems to be better coming off the bench rather than the whole match. It doesn't seem he can play the whole 90 with good intensity. Almost the same with Johannsson. Both should play, but off of the bench. Also the winger spots are some of the deepest with Zusi presumably playing signifigant minutes (I think he should start).

-Brooks can be a solid starter for us... in 2 years. He is talented, but the maturity (communication, experience) isn't quite there yet, IMO. He may be able to pick up a spot on the team to gain experience and he isn't a terrible option.

- If Beasley starts, I won't watch.

- I think Besler is the best CB we have. Who do we parir with him? I guess its Gonzalez, though his distribution was suspect sometimes vs. Austria. Not a huge fan. Is good with his head though.

-Altidore plays well with someone up top? But we don't really have a good compliment for him, IMO. I think Dempsey is a bit more effective playing in more a mid-field role, though he is an option. Eddie Johnson and Boyd are other two interesting options, though I'm not sure either would start.

- I like Cameron's creativity and skill on the ball. He is great coming forward. Fouls a bit too much on defense though. HIm, F. Johnson or B. Evans at RB? [Or is Johnson LB? I like Fabian's skill coming forward too for the record. But having two wing back that are good coming forward may expose our CB's].

- Jermaine Jones frustrates me. He either turns the ball over or plays in back in the weirdest spots. His communication with Bradley seems to have regressed.

My starting XI:

GK: Howard
RB: Evans
CB: Besler
CB: Gonzalez
LB: F. Johnson (not sure if he plays LB RB or if Jurgen cares)
CDM: G. Cameron
DM: Bradley
LM: Donovan (its hard to keep him off of the field)
CM: Dempsey (maybe more of a CAM)
RM: Zusi
ST: Altidore

Others:
GK: Guzan and Rimando
Backs: Beasley, Goodson, Tim Ream (Chandler, Orozco, Brooks are some other options)
Midfield: Shea,Diskerud, Jermaine Jones (assuming he doesn't start, of course) [Danny Williams,Beckerman, Kljestan, B. Davis]
FW: Johannason, E. Johnson, Boyd (maybe only two to have more mid-field/ back options; though all three could play Dempsey's role and we could move Dempsey more to Donovan's role or something)

I probably missed a few.

What are you're guys ideas?
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I like your starting XI and I think it will all depend on the opponent and if all of those are available for WC moving forward.

Beasley, is a clear cut starter. I don't like it (I actually hate it) but his form has been significantly improved since EVER, and it is his spot to lose. Klinnsman loves him there and he brings significant WC experience.

Unless he gets hurt, Jermaine Jones is a clear cut starter as well. I agree he is a head case but he is an enforcer which we need if Bradley is going to be the pacemaker. He tends to get caught forward too much and they do have to work on that.

Beasler and Gonzales will likely be the Cbs, though I really like Cameron and Gonzales together. Those are two imposing Cbs. I like Cameron at RB now too as that is what he is playing most with Stoke. Limited attacking options with him out-wide though. Evans can get up an down the sideline though he gets beat A LOT.

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Diskerud, Zusi, F. Johnson, EJ, Johanssen, Cameron, Goodson, Evans, Brooks, Shea, Klesjstan (sp?), Guzan,
 
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I like your starting XI and I think it will all depend on the opponent and if all of those are available for WC moving forward.

Beasley, is a clear cut starter. I don't like it (I actually hate it) but his form has been significantly improved since EVER, and it is his spot to lose. Klinnsman loves him there and he brings significant WC experience.

Unless he gets hurt, Jermaine Jones is a clear cut starter as well. I agree he is a head case but he is an enforcer which we need if Bradley is going to be the pacemaker. He tends to get caught forward too much and they do have to work on that.

Beasler and Gonzales will likely be the Cbs, though I really like Cameron and Gonzales together. Those are two imposing Cbs. I like Cameron at RB now too as that is what he is playing most with Stoke. Limited attacking options with him out-wide though. Evans can get up an down the sideline though he gets beat A LOT.

B team:
Diskerud, Zusi, F. Johnson, EJ, Johanssen, Cameron, Goodson, Evans, Brooks, Shea, Klesjstan (sp?), Guzan,
I still see Cameron as a DM I guess. He has said that is his preferred position [both club and national], so I'd have liked to see him there again in a friendly to see how it works out.

But you are probably right on Jones and Beasley. Jones does bring something, but is really frustrating to me in the build up and transition game. He seems to be magically missing every time we give up a goal. Plus having Cameron and Bradley in the DM, two distributers and guys who have nice balls (....), seems redundant. I think they are the two most skillful players though.

Beasley gets beat too much IMO, though he does bring some experience to the back-line which is much needed.


Do you have any ideas on what we will/ should do up top? Altidore needs someone to play with IMO and I don't like seeing Dempsey up there, though he probably will be.
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I still see Cameron as a DM I guess. He has said that is his preferred position [both club and national], so I'd have liked to see him there again in a friendly to see how it works out.

But you are probably right on Jones and Beasley. Jones does bring something, but is really frustrating to me in the build up and transition game. He seems to be magically missing every time we give up a goal. Plus having Cameron and Bradley in the DM, two distributers and guys who have nice balls (....), seems redundant. I think they are the two most skillful players though.

Beasley gets beat too much IMO, though he does bring some experience to the back-line which is much needed.


Do you have any ideas on what we will/ should do up top? Altidore needs someone to play with IMO and I don't like seeing Dempsey up there, though he probably will be.
I don't think we need another forward per SE with Altidore but he has to get help. I think with with good wide play and runs up the middle into the box that can be achieved tactically with Dempsey and Donovan.

Personally I like a 4-1-3-1-1:

Howard
Cameron. Gonzales Besler. Beasley
Bradley
Donovan. Jones. Johnson (F or E)
Dempsey (Zusi)
Altidore
This lineup can easily become numerous formations or are tactically interchangeable.

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GK Howard
RB Cameron
CB Besler
CB Gonzalez
LB Johnson/Beasley
CDM: Jones
DM: Bradley
LM: Donovan
CAM: Johannsson/Dempsey
RM: Dempsey/Zusi
ST: Altidore
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