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Old 08-23-2015, 01:47 PM   #57 (permalink)
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I skimmed this article and the testing protocol seemed...dicey. Were there no extended family members of the holocaust victims to test their DNA. These "epigenetic" markers could have familial expression prior to the holocaust, no? Using Jewish families across the pond as the control seems loose. I know Ashkenazi Jews can have a higher incidence of certain diseases in their gene pool, which likely developed due to their evolving genetic pool in a limited geographic dispersion.

If this does occur between generations, it provides incentive to change behaviors. This would make it seem like our epigenetic tags are constantly being shuffled and our behaviors will have a more concrete effect on our children than previously imagined.

It's not just the nurturing but the nature of the genetic environment you foster prior to/during child-rearing (and likely post-child rearing as well).
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I skimmed this article and the testing protocol seemed...dicey. Were there no extended family members of the holocaust victims to test their DNA. These "epigenetic" markers could have familial expression prior to the holocaust, no? Using Jewish families across the pond as the control seems loose. I know Ashkenazi Jews can have a higher incidence of certain diseases in their gene pool, which likely developed due to their evolving genetic pool in a limited geographic dispersion.

If this does occur between generations, it provides incentive to change behaviors. This would make it seem like our epigenetic tags are constantly being shuffled and our behaviors will have a more concrete effect on our children than previously imagined.

It's not just the nurturing but the nature of the genetic environment you foster prior to/during child-rearing (and likely post-child rearing as well).
If I understood it correctly, The 32 people who met the following criteria:
  1. 32 Jewish men and women who had either been interned in a Nazi concentration camp
  2. witnessed or experienced torture
  3. had to hide during the second world war.
  4. had children, who are known to have increased likelihood of stress disorders

These results were compared with the results with Jewish families who were living outside of Europe during the war.

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The team were specifically interested in one region of a gene associated with the regulation of stress hormones, which is known to be affected by trauma. “It makes sense to look at this gene,” said Yehuda. “If there’s a transmitted effect of trauma, it would be in a stress-related gene that shapes the way we cope with our environment.”

They found epigenetic tags on the very same part of this gene in both the Holocaust survivors and their offspring, the same correlation was not found in any of the control group and their children
Yes, epigenetics are almost exclusively passed down familial lines though this one would have been from trauma. Not having access to their methods nor how they ruled out other forms of stress or inherited methylation of the site from other sources...I can't say they are dicey per se. Small sample size... yes. But the results per the paper indicate the epigenetic tags are significantly linked to stress induced from the Holocaust. My thoughts are the stress hormone they were looking at is not associated with general stress or anxiety and more from traumatic events. I am sure they were to differentiate these scenarios and also probably had the people identify any other very traumatic events in their life.

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