Ty or Pete?

[jonesman]

Pete and Pete and Pete. I do not like Pete or USC, but I will give him the fact that he came into SC and built them back to a power. He recruits like a mother and gets the kids to play for him. On the other hand, Ty was only two years from sending us into a place I am not sure ND could have ever recovered. He was making no changes to improve his staff and most defining of all was his recruiting. He was HORRIBLE at recruiting. He did not put any effort into recruiting. We were bringing in players that belonged playing in the MAC and other mid major schools. Two more classes like that and we would have been struggling to beat the likes of Navy, Duke and Stanford this year. He did not embrace ND and truly did not work hard while here. He did play alot of golf in SB. Remember this as you feel any woes for TY, he was paid more by ND this year than Charlie. Yes, he is still on the payroll. TY deserved what he got. Shame on him for doing an incomplete job!!!

[portlaNDgal]

If we're not talking about one of these guys winning before us, I would say Ty. For all his flaws he runs a clean program.

If it's a choice between Ty or Pete before we win, I gotta go the other way, and it's due to my feelings for Ty. The reason I feel animosity for Willingham is his interivew before the UW-ND game in 05. In that interview he said he thought his firing was racially motivated. BULLSHIT Ty, you got fired because you didn't meet the win-loss terms of your contract. ND learned their lesson from Davie & didn't keep a coaching staff around that wasn't working out. I wish him well at UW but if I have to choose Pete or Ty win before us, I won't choose Ty.

[onenybrother]

Originally Posted by portlaNDgal

If we're not talking about one of these guys winning before us, I would say Ty. For all his flaws he runs a clean program.

If it's a choice between Ty or Pete before we win, I gotta go the other way, and it's due to my feelings for Ty. The reason I feel animosity for Willingham is his interivew before the UW-ND game in 05. In that interview he said he thought his firing was racially motivated. BULLSHIT Ty, you got fired because you didn't meet the win-loss terms of your contract. ND learned their lesson from Davie & didn't keep a coaching staff around that wasn't working out. I wish him well at UW but if I have to choose Pete or Ty win before us, I won't choose Ty.

Pete whupping our behind and loving it doen't matter. Now i get it.

Let's Go Dame !!!

[Sureal]

USC. The more NC's they win the more I hate them and their Hollywood behinds. Brings more venom to the game when we play them.

I can care less about Washington and I don't want to hear the crap about racism with Ty. We all seen the recruiting efforts. This is a high profile program where we are supposed to expect to win.

Doesn't matter anyway because in '09 our time will come...

[portlaNDgal]

Originally Posted by onenybrother

Pete whupping our behind and loving it doen't matter. Now i get it.

Let's Go Dame !!!

I never said it doesn't matter. Your statement puts words in my mouth. As someone said earlier, this is choosing between 2 distasteful possiblities. I hate the way Poodle has beaten us as much as any ND fan. However, I object more to the way Willingham went on national television and told an egregious falsehood about my school. That is just my opinion. Anyone is free to think the opposite if he/she likes, and I will respect said opinion.