Ty, again - Page 2 - Notre Dame Football Discussion

**seIRISH** · 01-22-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by irishtexan

jesus, how did ty get to coach notre dame? he is so lazy when it comes to recruiting. i actually feel bad for the husky fans because they have no idea the sh*t storm they are in. how the hell can he tell people not to worry when noone will work with him.?

He got to coach them because O'leary lied.The media was bashing them.So they went for the best choice to make everyone get off their back but maybe not the best coach.After they hired TY no one could say anything bad and everyone forgot about O'leary.In that way I do fell sorry for TY because I think ND used him a bit.

**irishgo8** · 01-23-2005, 04:58 PM

It is being proven over and over again that Willingham was not ready to become a head coach and that FIRING ty wasnt the wrong thing ND did - it was HIRING ty. I mean can it be any clearer?

**Rip Rap** · 01-27-2005, 02:54 PM

I am relishing every moment of this.
http://mb13.scout.com/fdawgmanfrm1.s...ID=37608.topic

Another post from the Husky board:

Willingham killed 1st recruiting class
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With the program already hurting from a poor season and very limited direction Willingham needed to come in and hit a home run. That is not going to happen. If you are an offensive player wouldn't you want to know what type of offense they were going to run. Hint hire an OC it doesnt take 2 months to get the right person in. Many coaches have already said no to him even with UW ties, not good.

With a limited number of scholarships this year and next he needed to find the best athletes to what type of system both on offense and defense, again no OC. You can't throw away this year or next and say he is getting the pieces put in place. He won't be around in 4-5 years if he goes 3-8 5-6 seasons.

Coaches can only see so many kids in a day because of travel, he needed to be fully staffed. LSU, OK State, Stanford, Utah, Florida and it goes on they all have full staffs and they all hired their head coach after Willingham was hired. I will be surprised if he pulls anything out this recruiting season. Won't go 1-10 next year but a couple of 4-7 seasons are knocking on the door.

Also:

Re: How did he KILL this class
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Don't think he killed this class but he also hasn't done much to improve it either as best we know. Some schools are now having to rescind offers to three star players due to being full or so close that they must hold something open for highly recruited players that have them in their top two or close.

I also know that Frank Solich who was hired at Ohio at about the same time that UW hire Ty has a full staff, something like 19 commits and took a week off to coach for the Hula bowl.

Next year we will know after a full year to recruit.

**EnviedOne** · 01-27-2005, 02:59 PM

LOL... I think Ty is off his rocker. I really do.

**irishgo8** · 01-27-2005, 05:27 PM

The Washington and Ty boats r sinking deeper every minute. I mean they rnt Lyght any more

**NDLyght37** · 01-27-2005, 05:58 PM

Wow...irish called me out like this was pro wrasslin'.

Personally, I'm patient with what he's doing...then again, I'm not a rabid Husky fan who's had to endure what they've been through the last few seasons.

I don't think the recruiting is as big a deal as not having a staff in place, since they have some talent already on the squad (especially at QB...3 guys who could be legit starters).

But, like Pops Lyght always used to say, "if you don't take the time to do it right, when are you going to find the time to fix it?".

~~**QueensNY**~~ · 01-27-2005, 06:02 PM

If I had one word to describe Ty it would be, LAZY.

He just doesn't work hard, he didn't work hard at ND.

Take Lorig for example, Weis has gotten him to visit this weekend, I remember reading months ago Lorig say that Ty had just stop calling him, while Tedford and Carroll were calling him once a week.

He just gave up on Lorig, Weis didn't give up on Lorig and now he's visiting.

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01-23-2005, 04:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
irishgo8 Freshman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 904 Cash: 3,793.50 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 3,793.50 Donate	It is being proven over and over again that Willingham was not ready to become a head coach and that FIRING ty wasnt the wrong thing ND did - it was HIRING ty. I mean can it be any clearer?

01-27-2005, 02:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
Rip Rap Sophomore Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 962 Cash: 5,972.25 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 5,972.25 Donate	I am relishing every moment of this. http://mb13.scout.com/fdawgmanfrm1.s...ID=37608.topic Another post from the Husky board: Willingham killed 1st recruiting class -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- With the program already hurting from a poor season and very limited direction Willingham needed to come in and hit a home run. That is not going to happen. If you are an offensive player wouldn't you want to know what type of offense they were going to run. Hint hire an OC it doesnt take 2 months to get the right person in. Many coaches have already said no to him even with UW ties, not good. With a limited number of scholarships this year and next he needed to find the best athletes to what type of system both on offense and defense, again no OC. You can't throw away this year or next and say he is getting the pieces put in place. He won't be around in 4-5 years if he goes 3-8 5-6 seasons. Coaches can only see so many kids in a day because of travel, he needed to be fully staffed. LSU, OK State, Stanford, Utah, Florida and it goes on they all have full staffs and they all hired their head coach after Willingham was hired. I will be surprised if he pulls anything out this recruiting season. Won't go 1-10 next year but a couple of 4-7 seasons are knocking on the door. Also: Re: How did he KILL this class -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't think he killed this class but he also hasn't done much to improve it either as best we know. Some schools are now having to rescind offers to three star players due to being full or so close that they must hold something open for highly recruited players that have them in their top two or close. I also know that Frank Solich who was hired at Ohio at about the same time that UW hire Ty has a full staff, something like 19 commits and took a week off to coach for the Hula bowl. Next year we will know after a full year to recruit.

01-27-2005, 05:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
irishgo8 Freshman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 904 Cash: 3,793.50 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 3,793.50 Donate	The Washington and Ty boats r sinking deeper every minute. I mean they rnt Lyght any more

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NDLyght37 Freshman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hampton Roads, VA. Posts: 495 Cash: 1,269.75 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 1,269.75 Donate	Wow...irish called me out like this was pro wrasslin'. Personally, I'm patient with what he's doing...then again, I'm not a rabid Husky fan who's had to endure what they've been through the last few seasons. I don't think the recruiting is as big a deal as not having a staff in place, since they have some talent already on the squad (especially at QB...3 guys who could be legit starters). But, like Pops Lyght always used to say, "if you don't take the time to do it right, when are you going to find the time to fix it?".

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~~QueensNY~~ SCUMBAG WHO DELETES THREADS Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NY Posts: 1,575 Cash: 6,209.50 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 6,209.50 Donate	If I had one word to describe Ty it would be, LAZY. He just doesn't work hard, he didn't work hard at ND. Take Lorig for example, Weis has gotten him to visit this weekend, I remember reading months ago Lorig say that Ty had just stop calling him, while Tedford and Carroll were calling him once a week. He just gave up on Lorig, Weis didn't give up on Lorig and now he's visiting.

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