Justin Gatlin's 40 Time

[LOVEMYIRISH]

Originally Posted by kjones

Sorry tedwick, i love your posts but you are incorrect on this one. Your analysis assumes a constant velocity over the whole sprint, which is clearly an incorrect assumption. The numbers are shorter, not quicker, because you have to start from a dead stop. If you read the article posted above, you'll see that they actually did a tape analysis and he crossed 40 yards at 4.38!! That's with a full load of roids and a slight tailwind. The article is quite interesting, basically, because 40 times aren't done automatically, all athletes get at least an extra 0.24 or so on every run while the time has to react to the runner movement, instead of the runner reacting to a gun. And pressing button adds more tenths. And they anticipate the finishes. Etc. As long as we stay consistent to this sham of a measuring system 3.9 is possible, but it looks like not even under 4.3 is actually possible for a human being.

You just saved me a ton of typing...thanks!

[bayernarsch]

Not that I'd attempt to lend validity to the time recorded by the Texans, since most 40 yd. dash times are smoke and mirrors, but remember that this was probably a hand held time vs. the FAT used to record IAAF events and world records. This one sounds like there might be significant human error to it.

[tedwick]

Originally Posted by kjones

Sorry tedwick, i love your posts but you are incorrect on this one. Your analysis assumes a constant velocity over the whole sprint, which is clearly an incorrect assumption. The numbers are shorter, not quicker, because you have to start from a dead stop. If you read the article posted above, you'll see that they actually did a tape analysis and he crossed 40 yards at 4.38!! That's with a full load of roids and a slight tailwind. The article is quite interesting, basically, because 40 times aren't done automatically, all athletes get at least an extra 0.24 or so on every run while the time has to react to the runner movement, instead of the runner reacting to a gun. And pressing button adds more tenths. And they anticipate the finishes. Etc. As long as we stay consistent to this sham of a measuring system 3.9 is possible, but it looks like not even under 4.3 is actually possible for a human being.

danke. i stand corrected.

however, the iaaf no longer recognizes the 50m sprint. i'm not even sure if they run it anymore (the shortest run distance is 60m, but it's indoor and thus not terribly well populated) so there aren't really current world records for the 50m. chances are things have speeded up since then. For comparison, the 100m record in 1991 was 9.86. So a full 10th of a second was shaved off in over 10 years.

I'd be interested to see gatlin's world record 100m, and look for the 40 mark. That's really the only way we'd be able to tell. 3.9 probably isn't realistic, but a sub-4.3 might be.

[KMac151993]

Originally Posted by bayernarsch

Not that I'd attempt to lend validity to the time recorded by the Texans, since most 40 yd. dash times are smoke and mirrors, but remember that this was probably a hand held time vs. the FAT used to record IAAF events and world records. This one sounds like there might be significant human error to it.

Love the 1992 Penn State program.

[tommy]

does this guy have any football experiance high school jv anything . he thinks he can hang in the nfl he isnt that much faster then nfl cb plus what is his time with full pads on .

[tedwick]

Originally Posted by tommy

does this guy have any football experiance high school jv anything . he thinks he can hang in the nfl he isnt that much faster then nfl cb plus what is his time with full pads on .

well, the point that most of the posters are making is that most nfl 40 times (i believe they're automated at the combine, but workouts are hand done) are a lot quicker than the guys can actually run the 40 just because of human error. gatlin is probably quicker than any corner in the NFL. There's a reason champ baily isn't running the 100m next summer olympics. but, indeed, the question is if the guy has any other football skills other than sheer speed. You could run him deep on every down, but if he can't catch, then what's the use?

[LOVEMYIRISH]

Originally Posted by tedwick

danke. i stand corrected.

however, the iaaf no longer recognizes the 50m sprint. i'm not even sure if they run it anymore (the shortest run distance is 60m, but it's indoor and thus not terribly well populated) so there aren't really current world records for the 50m. chances are things have speeded up since then. For comparison, the 100m record in 1991 was 9.86. So a full 10th of a second was shaved off in over 10 years.

I'd be interested to see gatlin's world record 100m, and look for the 40 mark. That's really the only way we'd be able to tell. 3.9 probably isn't realistic, but a sub-4.3 might be.

I bet if he tried he could get a 4.2 in the 40...and with training MAYBE even lower...especially if the time started with his running, not a gun.

But Gatlin is the fastest in the world, thus showing the sham of College 40 times.