ND now in top 12 for talent... - Notre Dame Football Discussion

**Easton Pa ND Fan** · 07-06-2008, 12:38 PM

ND's Rival rating is now 7527 (up from 5603) for the last
four years of scholarship recruiting. This number, on a
yearly basis, determines team recruiting rankings. The
cumulative number pretty much covers a team's roster of
scholarship talent.

Before you take me to task, it does not include fifth yr,
drop outs or transfers. Such changes, fairly common, tend
to cancel out whene viewed from a 117 team Div 1 database.

USC's actualy number is 10722. It was too large for the
data column...Tom

Teams  Riv#
  
USC .  9999
FL  .  9927
FL  S  9004
OK  .  8761
Ga  .  8401
LSU .  8260
Al  .  8187
Tx  .  8173
Mi  .  7939
MiaFL  7699
N D .  7527
Oh  S  7460
Tn  .  7401
Aubrn  7121
Clmsn  6721
Ne  .  6503
Ca  .  5803
UCLA.  5468
Pa  S  5398
Tx AM  5296
Va  T  5121
Ms  .  4986
Az  .  4717
Or  .  4680
Md  .  4582

**phork** · 07-06-2008, 12:53 PM

Man I just dont get how USC doesnt steam roll the world every year.

**Easton Pa ND Fan** · 07-06-2008, 01:55 PM

Two things must be considered. First, Rival's talent numbers
sometimes showed a 50%(+/-) kinship to end of season stats
for win percentages, margins of victory, game yardage, etc.
That is not bad when you consider that the numbers are a
judgement call by the Rival's staff and it held up with team
performance stats. It also implies that the coaching factor
is 50% more or less.

Second, you can only put so much talent on the field. The
rest is benched. Granted, USC's bench talent equals ND's
starting talent, the benefit is always have fresh talent
avaible. What USC talent starts is thus not as impressive
as the 10722 implies...Tom

RecruitingJunkie24 · 07-06-2008, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phork

Man I just dont get how USC doesnt steam roll the world every year.

even southern cal is vulnerable when it comes to the experience level of their starters, for instance this year they have a totally new oline and a new qb, i wouldnt be surprised to see them lose 3 games this year since they play ohio st

OCIrish · 07-06-2008, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RecruitingJunkie24

even southern cal is vulnerable when it comes to the experience level of their starters, for instance this year they have a totally new oline and a new qb, i wouldnt be surprised to see them lose 3 games this year since they play ohio st

I wouldn't be too surprised if they take tOSU to task this year. Yeah, tOSU has a ton of talent, but, Southern Cal does as well, not to mention, they threw Butch Lewis in at OT last year against us from his DL spot, and it didn't seem to hurt them a whole hell of a lot.

RecruitingJunkie24 · 07-06-2008, 05:59 PM

butch lewis hasnt played a down at defensive tackle for southern cal, he's been an offensive tackle since he landed in south central, he is very talented but the bottom line is that the majority of the line hasnt played together as a unit in a game yet. I expect Ohio St to put a ton of pressure on sanchez and on offense run beanie wells right through the middle of the sedrick ellis-less offensive line. expect a low scoring 21-17 type game

**Legacy** · 07-08-2008, 07:57 PM

ND ahead of Ohio St is interesting. We may be more concentrated in the three classes, while their recruiting is more evenly spread out. Also, Alabama at #7may be the result of 140 LOIs in 5 yrs? Numbers.

07-06-2008, 12:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
Easton Pa ND Fan Blue Chip Recruit Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Triangle (lopsided) with NY/Phila Posts: 409 Cash: 14,972.92 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 14,972.92 Donate	ND now in top 12 for talent... ND's Rival rating is now 7527 (up from 5603) for the last four years of scholarship recruiting. This number, on a yearly basis, determines team recruiting rankings. The cumulative number pretty much covers a team's roster of scholarship talent. Before you take me to task, it does not include fifth yr, drop outs or transfers. Such changes, fairly common, tend to cancel out whene viewed from a 117 team Div 1 database. USC's actualy number is 10722. It was too large for the data column...Tom Teams Riv# USC . 9999 FL . 9927 FL S 9004 OK . 8761 Ga . 8401 LSU . 8260 Al . 8187 Tx . 8173 Mi . 7939 MiaFL 7699 N D . 7527 Oh S 7460 Tn . 7401 Aubrn 7121 Clmsn 6721 Ne . 6503 Ca . 5803 UCLA. 5468 Pa S 5398 Tx AM 5296 Va T 5121 Ms . 4986 Az . 4717 Or . 4680 Md . 4582 Last edited by Easton Pa ND Fan; 07-06-2008 at 12:43 PM.

07-06-2008, 01:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
Easton Pa ND Fan Blue Chip Recruit Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Triangle (lopsided) with NY/Phila Posts: 409 Cash: 14,972.92 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 14,972.92 Donate	USC's talent is at a peak, but... Two things must be considered. First, Rival's talent numbers sometimes showed a 50%(+/-) kinship to end of season stats for win percentages, margins of victory, game yardage, etc. That is not bad when you consider that the numbers are a judgement call by the Rival's staff and it held up with team performance stats. It also implies that the coaching factor is 50% more or less. Second, you can only put so much talent on the field. The rest is benched. Granted, USC's bench talent equals ND's starting talent, the benefit is always have fresh talent avaible. What USC talent starts is thus not as impressive as the 10722 implies...Tom

07-06-2008, 05:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
RecruitingJunkie24 Waterboy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NM Posts: 20 Cash: 747.49 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 747.49 Donate	butch lewis hasnt played a down at defensive tackle for southern cal, he's been an offensive tackle since he landed in south central, he is very talented but the bottom line is that the majority of the line hasnt played together as a unit in a game yet. I expect Ohio St to put a ton of pressure on sanchez and on offense run beanie wells right through the middle of the sedrick ellis-less offensive line. expect a low scoring 21-17 type game __________________ I'm not a businessman, I'm a business...man

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phork Green With Envy Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 550 Cash: 611.74 Bank: 42.98 Total Bankroll: 654.72 Donate	Man I just dont get how USC doesnt steam roll the world every year.

07-08-2008, 07:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
Legacy Walk-On Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 125 Cash: 7,001.56 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 7,001.56 Donate	ND ahead of Ohio St is interesting. We may be more concentrated in the three classes, while their recruiting is more evenly spread out. Also, Alabama at #7may be the result of 140 LOIs in 5 yrs? Numbers.

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