Midwest weather argument,,,, (long)

[connor_in]

I grew up in northern Indiana and went to school in Lansing...Norhtern IN gets cold and snow (including lake effect) but just going slightly north to Lansing, it was colder and for longer. Plus if the weather is such a recruiting problem, why does scUM get good recruits? Why does any florida school get recruits when the hurricanes come (and I don't mean the U)...same w/ LSU after Katrina....BC gets some good guys and noreaster suck big time!

I think if you really like a school for the school and what it can do for you (not just in athletics), then the weather doesn't really matter...otherwise Hawaii would get way better recruits than they do now

[Moostache]

Weather is about fifth on the list of reasons (legitimate ones anyway) that ND MIGHT struggle to recruit some players and CAN'T recruit them at all with a lazy coach or staff:

1) Academic requirements
2) Negative Recruiting
3) Physical Distance from Homes
4) Legitimate Lack of Bimbos on campus looking for a man and not a degree
5) Weather

That's just off the top of my head, but really what does it matter in the end? If a kid does not want to be at ND then all the begging, pleading and cajolling in the world would not help anyway - they would be miserable, under-perform and transfer or flame out anyway.

No, its better to have a class of 22-24 solidly commited guys who WANT that Gold helmet and ND experience. If they don't "get it" then no one can MAKE them get it. To borrow heavily from Yoda - Do or Do Not...there is no try...You either WANT ND or you DO NOT, there is no in-between that would make it worth while to non-motivated types...

[Newc]

Originally Posted by stonebreakerwasgod

Every winter in the midwest I wonder why I left Cali. Of course, I remember about all the wackos, illegals, gangs, drugs, earthquakes, wacky local govt's .......and then I'm ok.

So what are you saying, that ACamp is a psycho, illegal alien, drug running member of the crips who is eagerly working his way up the municipal employment ladder?

[JeremyND07]

Weather is tough to overcome with southern or west coast kids but more of a reason to give CW & CB even more props for this class! I live in Ohio and around this time of year wonder why I still live here!!!!

[connor_in]

Originally Posted by Moostache

4) Legitimate Lack of Bimbos on campus looking for a man and not a degree
...

I have to take issue with this one Moostache! Maybe a lower number of Bimbos, but most of them at ND came with a trustfund, not a trailer park background (not that there is anything wrong with that, its just that if you get serious with a girl, its great when you find out she is loaded and Daddy owns a company that you can start in right away even if you are a knob and sqeak out of ND with a C avg and a degree)

[ab2cmiller]

Originally Posted by connor_in

I have to take issue with this one Moostache! Maybe a lower number of Bimbos, but most of them at ND came with a trustfund, not a trailer park background (not that there is anything wrong with that, its just that if you get serious with a girl, its great when you find out she is loaded and Daddy owns a company that you can start in right away even if you are a knob and sqeak out of ND with a C avg and a degree)

Now there is a guy who just gets it. LOL

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Originally Posted by onenybrother

Wasn't Jeffrery Daimer, Unabomer, John Gacy, The Oklahoma City Bomber's from the mid west?

I'm not talking about serial killers, I'm talking about wackos all over in Cali. Trust me, there are plenty there.