Non-ND recruiting snapshot - Notre Dame Football Discussion

**stonebreakerwasgod** · 12-14-2007, 11:38 PM

This isn't an attempt to be all-inclusive, I just wanted to share some thoughts on a coupla programs, and how they are faring at this time. The info/rankings I used are from Rivals.

The numbers will go like this......Total commits/5 star/4 star/3 star.....(example 14/0/3/10)

Ranked 27. PSU 12/0/4/7......The program needs new life, time for him to adhere to the Logans Run rule, retire before you lose it.

Ranked 29. Mizzou 16/1/1/10
Ranked 39. Oregon 12/0/2/9
Not exactly the haul the schools wanted after a pretty darn good showing this year. They need some late commits.

Ranked 33. Washington 22/0/2/10.......This is Ty doing his best to show why he no longer is at ND.

Ranked 37. Tennessee 11/0/3/7......The downward spiral continueth??

Ranked 41. MSU 16/0/1/8.........Only 1 4 star recruit thus far....Dantonio, say it ain't so!

Ranked 59. Louisville 11/0/1/6.....Petrino leaving didn't help matters, and he'll be cursed there for awhile. Their poor season didn't help matters either. Not the direction one would hope after 4 previous solid seasons.

Ranked 69. USF 16/0/0/7.........All I can say is WOW. This surprised me a great deal. Were they not ranked at number two this year?? It certainly did not correlate into helping the recruiting numbers. It may improve in the near future, but will they be able to return to a high ranking soon?

Ranked 72. Cincinnati 19/0/0/2.........Ouch. This is a legit top 20 team. That's the major question I have about Brian Kelly: his ability to recruit. TIme will tell if he's able to turn success on the field to winning over h.s. players and their parents. But there is no question he needs to hit Ohio and Michigan hard over the next two years.
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johnnd05 · 12-14-2007, 11:44 PM

Nice job, Stoney. Reps?

**stonebreakerwasgod** · 12-14-2007, 11:57 PM

Who me?

**SoCalDomer** · 12-15-2007, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by stonebreakerwasgod

Ranked 33. Washington 22/0/2/10.......This is Ty doing his best to show why he no longer is at ND.

At a press conf about a month back, he threw his players under the bus and said Washington needs blue chip recruits to be able to comepte with the USC's, Oregon's, etc. He also said they need to upgrade their facilities to attract these blue chip recruits.

Hmm. You mean you need national appeal, top notch facilities, and a major budget to attract top players? So you think Washington needs the kind of stuff you had at ND, even though you couldn't attract that many blue chip recruits when you had it? Fore!

**piyachi** · 12-15-2007, 02:44 AM

Hahaha so true.

PSU has really declined on the recruiting trail, and while Paterno still gets by as a HC, it is time to let the program move on.

I think Dantonio will get some more guys to head to MSU, especially as the scUM coaching search drags on. In all likelihood I think they get Nick Perry.

A lot of those schools are up-and-comers, and have built their current success with players that aren't 5* guys. Teams like USF and Cinci are going to have to string some more good seasons out to really start impressing big-time recruits.

Besides, I'm not stressing on other teams not being good at recruiting. Just leaves more for ND.

**stonebreakerwasgod** · 12-15-2007, 08:42 AM

I think you're right about Nick Perry.

It goes to show that a 2 star may be better than a 3 or 4 star if they have speed.
Cincy's Brian Kelly is perfect for them, I hope they keep him (away from teams we play).

GoshenGipper · 12-15-2007, 09:27 AM

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A lot of those schools are up-and-comers, and have built their current success with players that aren't 5* guys. Teams like USF and Cinci are going to have to string some more good seasons out to really start impressing big-time recruits.

Very true, what they need to do is focus on the under the radar guys that are just great football players, leaders, then some might have questions about size or injury, or copetion lelvel. Then if they were able to land some guys like David or Paul Posluszny, Hafis Williams, Carlton Thomas, Mike Hart, Bret Nagel, etc. then they could start stringing together more good seasons and they would start to attract more high level guys. Other programs such as BC, WVU, Purdue, etc has done similar things and have had some consistant success on the field. Then once your reach that lelvel you have to learn how to take the next step to become one of the higher lelvel programs and from there one of the elite ones.

12-14-2007, 11:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
stonebreakerwasgod Arabia's Daddy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 230 miles from Nirvana Posts: 7,223 Cash: 31,485.49 Bank: 82,645.45 Total Bankroll: 114,130.93 Donate	Non-ND recruiting snapshot This isn't an attempt to be all-inclusive, I just wanted to share some thoughts on a coupla programs, and how they are faring at this time. The info/rankings I used are from Rivals. The numbers will go like this......Total commits/5 star/4 star/3 star.....(example 14/0/3/10) Ranked 27. PSU 12/0/4/7......The program needs new life, time for him to adhere to the Logans Run rule, retire before you lose it. Ranked 29. Mizzou 16/1/1/10 Ranked 39. Oregon 12/0/2/9 Not exactly the haul the schools wanted after a pretty darn good showing this year. They need some late commits. Ranked 33. Washington 22/0/2/10.......This is Ty doing his best to show why he no longer is at ND. Ranked 37. Tennessee 11/0/3/7......The downward spiral continueth?? Ranked 41. MSU 16/0/1/8.........Only 1 4 star recruit thus far....Dantonio, say it ain't so! Ranked 59. Louisville 11/0/1/6.....Petrino leaving didn't help matters, and he'll be cursed there for awhile. Their poor season didn't help matters either. Not the direction one would hope after 4 previous solid seasons. Ranked 69. USF 16/0/0/7.........All I can say is WOW. This surprised me a great deal. Were they not ranked at number two this year?? It certainly did not correlate into helping the recruiting numbers. It may improve in the near future, but will they be able to return to a high ranking soon? Ranked 72. Cincinnati 19/0/0/2.........Ouch. This is a legit top 20 team. That's the major question I have about Brian Kelly: his ability to recruit. TIme will tell if he's able to turn success on the field to winning over h.s. players and their parents. But there is no question he needs to hit Ohio and Michigan hard over the next two years. __________________

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12-15-2007, 02:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
piyachi Blue Chip Recruit Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 474 Cash: 1,965.02 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 1,965.02 Donate	Hahaha so true. PSU has really declined on the recruiting trail, and while Paterno still gets by as a HC, it is time to let the program move on. I think Dantonio will get some more guys to head to MSU, especially as the scUM coaching search drags on. In all likelihood I think they get Nick Perry. A lot of those schools are up-and-comers, and have built their current success with players that aren't 5* guys. Teams like USF and Cinci are going to have to string some more good seasons out to really start impressing big-time recruits. Besides, I'm not stressing on other teams not being good at recruiting. Just leaves more for ND.

12-15-2007, 08:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
stonebreakerwasgod Arabia's Daddy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 230 miles from Nirvana Posts: 7,223 Cash: 31,485.49 Bank: 82,645.45 Total Bankroll: 114,130.93 Donate	I think you're right about Nick Perry. It goes to show that a 2 star may be better than a 3 or 4 star if they have speed. Cincy's Brian Kelly is perfect for them, I hope they keep him (away from teams we play).