Things that make you go hmmmmmm... - Notre Dame Football Discussion

**EnviedOne** · 01-26-2005, 11:26 AM

I was just over at the Washington website and checking out Ty's recruits and had a question pop into my head.

For all of those kids who were disappointed or decommitted after the Ty firing, why didn't ANY of them follow him to Washington? I mean, not a one did... not even kids that were interested.

Doesn't add up, does it? Their best recruit is a 3 star kicker. LACES OUT!

URL: http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=147&p=9&c=8

**irishgo8** · 01-26-2005, 01:03 PM

Like we all said all along they really didnt care about ty. They just didnt want to come to ND anyway.

**Rip Rap** · 01-26-2005, 01:14 PM

I think Ty did a bad job at selling recruits on much of anything. His firing was just an easy way for them to rationalize the lack of interest they already had.

**EnviedOne** · 01-26-2005, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rip Rap

I think Ty did a bad job at selling recruits on much of anything. His firing was just an easy way for them to rationalize the lack of interest they already had.

I really think this makes the most sense. Notre Dame (and probably the player hosts) sold recruits during Ty's tenure here. It's painfully obvious, especially after hearing how bad recruiting is going and rumblings from James Hasty's son after his visit this weekend.

You also hit on my second point, and that is the lack of interest from the recruits. However, I don't know how you verbally commit if you have that little interest. Some of these kids have some major character flaws, and/or people blabbing in their ear. Probably both.

**irishtexan** · 01-27-2005, 12:52 AM

what reason does a kid have to play for ty? i look at it this way:
1. hes lazy. he is way too laidback while on the job. he doesnt even have a full coaching staff yet. i know people say you cant rush to get a coach, but im sure there are some good hires out there for ty. I dont think many of them want to get involved with tys program because they feel its a losing battle. he slacks off recruiting duty, and we as irish fans know too well what happens when he does that.
2. hes not aggressive. i dont see a fire in tys spirit about the game of football. there isnt a drive in his eyes. through 3 years at notre dame, i think the most aggressive play called was the famous fake punt against stanford in 2003 (imo). his offense at notre dame was downright sissified in 3 years, by being conservative and not going after the other team. remember, we were only a few plays from losing 4 games in 2002. our defense kept us alive.
3. tradition. what would make me want to play for a guy who coaches teams to 6-5 or 5-6 all the time? yeah he took stanford to the rose bowl, but that was one time. you cant rely on one trip to the rose bowl to last you 20 years coaching in college. he is a great person when it comes to academics, but he doesnt win when he has to.

in my opinion, i think the huskies are doomed. yeah ty can sure talk smooth on his t.v. interviews, and use words like "excellence", "pride" and "winning tradition", but if you dont see it on the field, then how can you expext to win? they sure arent seeing it so far in his recruiting efforts. this season i dont know how many times i saw tuck, grant, quinn, jackson, and others walk off the field in shame. the most famous quote i remember to prove my point is this- "its going to be a slow grind to the end of the game"- this was after halftime of the bc game, when we were WINNING. right then i said 'oh sh*t' and i knew we were in trouble. and somehow, we managed to let those weasels from 'bahstan' embarass us again. we are in for good fortunes next year with weis's offensive prowess, i really beleive that.

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irishgo8 Freshman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 904 Cash: 3,809.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 3,809.00 Donate	Like we all said all along they really didnt care about ty. They just didnt want to come to ND anyway.

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Rip Rap Sophomore Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 962 Cash: 5,982.50 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 5,982.50 Donate	I think Ty did a bad job at selling recruits on much of anything. His firing was just an easy way for them to rationalize the lack of interest they already had.

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irishtexan Oklahoma smells like pee Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 620 Cash: 1,497.25 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 1,497.25 Donate	what reason does a kid have to play for ty? i look at it this way: 1. hes lazy. he is way too laidback while on the job. he doesnt even have a full coaching staff yet. i know people say you cant rush to get a coach, but im sure there are some good hires out there for ty. I dont think many of them want to get involved with tys program because they feel its a losing battle. he slacks off recruiting duty, and we as irish fans know too well what happens when he does that. 2. hes not aggressive. i dont see a fire in tys spirit about the game of football. there isnt a drive in his eyes. through 3 years at notre dame, i think the most aggressive play called was the famous fake punt against stanford in 2003 (imo). his offense at notre dame was downright sissified in 3 years, by being conservative and not going after the other team. remember, we were only a few plays from losing 4 games in 2002. our defense kept us alive. 3. tradition. what would make me want to play for a guy who coaches teams to 6-5 or 5-6 all the time? yeah he took stanford to the rose bowl, but that was one time. you cant rely on one trip to the rose bowl to last you 20 years coaching in college. he is a great person when it comes to academics, but he doesnt win when he has to. in my opinion, i think the huskies are doomed. yeah ty can sure talk smooth on his t.v. interviews, and use words like "excellence", "pride" and "winning tradition", but if you dont see it on the field, then how can you expext to win? they sure arent seeing it so far in his recruiting efforts. this season i dont know how many times i saw tuck, grant, quinn, jackson, and others walk off the field in shame. the most famous quote i remember to prove my point is this- "its going to be a slow grind to the end of the game"- this was after halftime of the bc game, when we were WINNING. right then i said 'oh sh*t' and i knew we were in trouble. and somehow, we managed to let those weasels from 'bahstan' embarass us again. we are in for good fortunes next year with weis's offensive prowess, i really beleive that.

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