Heres a scenario - Notre Dame Football Discussion

**notredomer23** · 10-05-2008, 12:37 PM

I presented this at GH and would like to see what your take on this is....Note: I am talking about our Irish team.

Say we are down 28-27(missed XP) against any team. There is 30 seconds left and your driving and your up to the opponents 15, but your faced with a 4th and 4 from the left hash mark. you have one timeout. What do you do?

I myself would go for the first down.

BDIrish4ever · 10-05-2008, 12:48 PM

This scenario still has a variable that you didn't mention, so I will give my opinion off the extra variable of opponent's defense:

Quality Defense (ex: USC and UNC) - attempt the FG
Suspect Defense - Go For It!

**Timugen** · 10-05-2008, 02:18 PM

I send Walker out to kick, but let him know that if he misses it he may as well just keep walking right over to the other team's sideline.

**NDBCSChamps** · 10-05-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Timugen

I send Walker out to kick, but let him know that if he misses it he may as well just keep walking right over to the other team's sideline.

Yeah because nothing lessens the pressure of a game winning kick like telling a kid his scholarships on the line.

**SouthernIrish** · 10-05-2008, 02:58 PM

One of my sons played college soccer as a goal keeper and was the kicker for his high school football team. Both positions are so dependent on the mental aspect. GK during pks, kicker at all times.

The kicker has about 3 seconds of action, the snap, the hold and the kick. Its a perpetual mental battle to stay focused. They are always thinking about the last kick.

The crowd booing him is the worst thing they can do. Its a unique position. He HAS to get his confidence back. Its not babying him, because that position takes balls to begin with. Its getting his head back in it.

**MirageSmack** · 10-05-2008, 04:14 PM

I would somehow try to force the other team to use all their timeouts earlier in the 4th qtr, so they can't ice him (further) at the end of the game.

On the left hash mark, maybe I will. He seems to miss them all right, so our odds are better.

Plus, when you've missed so many, the odds improve that you're going to make one soon.

He has the distance o plenty, even on the long kicks. He just needs to figure out the straight down the middle part.

I say kick it.

**NDinL.A.** · 10-05-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MirageSmack

I would somehow try to force the other team to use all their timeouts earlier in the 4th qtr, so they can't ice him (further) at the end of the game.

On the left hash mark, maybe I will. He seems to miss them all right, so our odds are better.

Plus, when you've missed so many, the odds improve that you're going to make one soon.

He has the distance o plenty, even on the long kicks. He just needs to figure out the straight down the middle part.

I say kick it.

I know what you mean, but when you're bad, you're bad. If you keep missing, there's a reason. His odds don't improve if he keeps on missing.

I'd rather put the ball in the hands of my best players, Clausen, Tate and Floyd. But i mean, it's a 32 yarder! You HAVE to kick it, right? I don't know, it's a uper tough call. As a caoch, you get skewered either way if it goes wrong.

As bad as Walker has been when up by 21, I can't imagine what a mess he'd be under the pressure of a game-winning kick. I'd go Clausen to Floyd, personally. But that's why CW makes the big bucks...

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notredomer23 Rest in Peace Goshen Gip Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 3,608 Cash: 88,177.65 Bank: 1.21 Total Bankroll: 88,178.86 Donate	Heres a scenario I presented this at GH and would like to see what your take on this is....Note: I am talking about our Irish team. Say we are down 28-27(missed XP) against any team. There is 30 seconds left and your driving and your up to the opponents 15, but your faced with a 4th and 4 from the left hash mark. you have one timeout. What do you do? I myself would go for the first down.

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SouthernIrish IE's original sweetheart Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In the middle of the SEC:-( Posts: 1,153 Cash: 818.62 Bank: 65,889.30 Total Bankroll: 66,707.92 Donate	One of my sons played college soccer as a goal keeper and was the kicker for his high school football team. Both positions are so dependent on the mental aspect. GK during pks, kicker at all times. The kicker has about 3 seconds of action, the snap, the hold and the kick. Its a perpetual mental battle to stay focused. They are always thinking about the last kick. The crowd booing him is the worst thing they can do. Its a unique position. He HAS to get his confidence back. Its not babying him, because that position takes balls to begin with. Its getting his head back in it. __________________ "So suck it up and tough it out and be the best you can" John Mellencamp

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BDIrish4ever Golic Wannabe Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ft. Wayne,IN. Posts: 548 Cash: 881.22 Bank: 94,052.45 Total Bankroll: 94,933.67 Donate	This scenario still has a variable that you didn't mention, so I will give my opinion off the extra variable of opponent's defense: Quality Defense (ex: USC and UNC) - attempt the FG Suspect Defense - Go For It!

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Timugen MEAT-BAT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Here, Now Posts: 715 Cash: 970.28 Bank: 74,272.24 Total Bankroll: 75,242.52 Donate	I send Walker out to kick, but let him know that if he misses it he may as well just keep walking right over to the other team's sideline.

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MirageSmack Blue Chip Recruit Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Louisville Posts: 308 Cash: 4,869.87 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 4,869.87 Donate	I would somehow try to force the other team to use all their timeouts earlier in the 4th qtr, so they can't ice him (further) at the end of the game. On the left hash mark, maybe I will. He seems to miss them all right, so our odds are better. Plus, when you've missed so many, the odds improve that you're going to make one soon. He has the distance o plenty, even on the long kicks. He just needs to figure out the straight down the middle part. I say kick it.

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