Kevin White continues to dumb down future schedules - Page 10 - Notre Dame Football Discussion

**mbooch** · 02-13-2008, 11:57 PM

You know when the talk about "updating" our perspective on scheduling started in earnest? Oddly enough, the answer is the same as: You know when Lou left and the future color man for ESPN got the job? Davie, White and Willingham have one thing in common. MEDIOCRE expectations for the football program. You aim low, and you get there. The '88 team beat the #2, #3 and #4 ranked teams in the country. They beat the best of the Big Ten, PAC Ten, AND the Big East. They Beat Michigan, Miami AND USC. It is simply short sighted and small minded to be talking about "re-evaluating" That's the noise second stringers make. Go Irish!

**phork** · 02-14-2008, 03:22 AM

There is a reason certain programs and pro teams hit the cellar constantly. And that is the simple culture of losing. Once you hit that, its hard to escape. There are several reasons for it. Bad coaching (I don't think is the case here, now that Charlie isn't call the plays), bad personel (again this is all Charliers recruits this year) or just a simple black cloud that hangs on the franchise (RE: Detroit & Oakland. With Millen and Davis seemingly in charge of programs spinning their wheels. Teams like Temple, Rutgers etc.

Let me tell you a story from the waaayback machine, not as far back as some of you old foagies, but still a way back. Back in my Highschool days, we were a new Highschool, I was in the first class. In Grade10 we fielded a Junior Football program (Our football was divided in Jr and Sr, 9, 10 & 11 was Jr, 11 and up was Sr.)
We absolutely sucked. The following year they asked us if we wanted to make a Sr ball team. All of us said yes (I think for fear of being called pussies for the most part), and we all moved up to the Sr. division. That first year we lost every game as well, except the last one. And let me tell you, once we tasted that sweet victory something changed. The next year we lost 1 game in the regular season and won the championship. The year after, we won every game and the championship. Most of us graduated that year, but the team still went to the championship.

IMO a softer schedule in the next few years will do wonders for this team, after that once ND gets rolling again, I say bring all comers.

GoshenGipper · 02-14-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mbooch

You know when the talk about "updating" our perspective on scheduling started in earnest? Oddly enough, the answer is the same as: You know when Lou left and the future color man for ESPN got the job? Davie, White and Willingham have one thing in common. MEDIOCRE expectations for the football program. You aim low, and you get there. The '88 team beat the #2, #3 and #4 ranked teams in the country. They beat the best of the Big Ten, PAC Ten, AND the Big East. They Beat Michigan, Miami AND USC. It is simply short sighted and small minded to be talking about "re-evaluating" That's the noise second stringers make. Go Irish!

So you don't think CFB has drastically changed in last 20 years?

I know recruiting has and that has a lot to do with it.

**Legacy** · 02-14-2008, 11:21 AM

Perhaps existing TV contracts are the reason why we are playing our "home" games against Wash St in San Antonio and now Baylor in New Orleans.
Baylor-Notre Dame football game moved to Louisiana Superdome | Dallas Morning News | News for Dallas, Texas | SportsDay: Colleges: Baylor
Future Conn games do not have to be moved as far since they are our road games.

**rattfink** · 02-14-2008, 03:14 PM

What a load of crap. Just a bunch of network dorks having a pissing match.

goldandblue · 04-25-2008, 11:14 AM

I've been thinking about this whole schedule issue again. I can't help it but I'm not for the cupcake schedule. I already hear enough shit from SEC fans saying that we don't play anyone now but up until this point in time I've always been able to direct them to ESPN to look at the S.O.S's. Notre dame usually being very high up there.

I am sick that we have not had a N.C. in 20 years so maybe lightning up the schedule is the answer. I just don't want the Irish to lighten it too much. If Notre Dame can keep there schedule strength in the top 25 I think that would good enough.

This topic died out but after seeing that we are trying to fill our schedule with easier teams I wanted to see what you guys thought about it.

laservet · 04-25-2008, 11:44 AM

Just so it isn't so light the TV contract dries up.

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02-13-2008, 11:57 PM	#64 (permalink)
mbooch Blue Chip Recruit Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 263 Cash: 1,557.73 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 1,557.73 Donate	You know when the talk about "updating" our perspective on scheduling started in earnest? Oddly enough, the answer is the same as: You know when Lou left and the future color man for ESPN got the job? Davie, White and Willingham have one thing in common. MEDIOCRE expectations for the football program. You aim low, and you get there. The '88 team beat the #2, #3 and #4 ranked teams in the country. They beat the best of the Big Ten, PAC Ten, AND the Big East. They Beat Michigan, Miami AND USC. It is simply short sighted and small minded to be talking about "re-evaluating" That's the noise second stringers make. Go Irish!

02-14-2008, 03:22 AM	#65 (permalink)
phork Green With Envy Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 401 Cash: 490.06 Bank: 292.47 Total Bankroll: 782.53 Donate	There is a reason certain programs and pro teams hit the cellar constantly. And that is the simple culture of losing. Once you hit that, its hard to escape. There are several reasons for it. Bad coaching (I don't think is the case here, now that Charlie isn't call the plays), bad personel (again this is all Charliers recruits this year) or just a simple black cloud that hangs on the franchise (RE: Detroit & Oakland. With Millen and Davis seemingly in charge of programs spinning their wheels. Teams like Temple, Rutgers etc. Let me tell you a story from the waaayback machine, not as far back as some of you old foagies, but still a way back. Back in my Highschool days, we were a new Highschool, I was in the first class. In Grade10 we fielded a Junior Football program (Our football was divided in Jr and Sr, 9, 10 & 11 was Jr, 11 and up was Sr.) We absolutely sucked. The following year they asked us if we wanted to make a Sr ball team. All of us said yes (I think for fear of being called pussies for the most part), and we all moved up to the Sr. division. That first year we lost every game as well, except the last one. And let me tell you, once we tasted that sweet victory something changed. The next year we lost 1 game in the regular season and won the championship. The year after, we won every game and the championship. Most of us graduated that year, but the team still went to the championship. IMO a softer schedule in the next few years will do wonders for this team, after that once ND gets rolling again, I say bring all comers.

02-14-2008, 11:21 AM	#67 (permalink)
Legacy Walk-On Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 110 Cash: 6,415.93 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 6,415.93 Donate	Perhaps existing TV contracts are the reason why we are playing our "home" games against Wash St in San Antonio and now Baylor in New Orleans. Baylor-Notre Dame football game moved to Louisiana Superdome \| Dallas Morning News \| News for Dallas, Texas \| SportsDay: Colleges: Baylor Future Conn games do not have to be moved as far since they are our road games.

02-14-2008, 03:14 PM	#68 (permalink)
rattfink Waterboy Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 42 Cash: 1,011.75 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 1,011.75 Donate	What a load of crap. Just a bunch of network dorks having a pissing match.

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goldandblue kickoff, kickoff, kickoff Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,257 Cash: 78,484.43 Bank: 601.10 Total Bankroll: 79,085.53 Donate	I've been thinking about this whole schedule issue again. I can't help it but I'm not for the cupcake schedule. I already hear enough shit from SEC fans saying that we don't play anyone now but up until this point in time I've always been able to direct them to ESPN to look at the S.O.S's. Notre dame usually being very high up there. I am sick that we have not had a N.C. in 20 years so maybe lightning up the schedule is the answer. I just don't want the Irish to lighten it too much. If Notre Dame can keep there schedule strength in the top 25 I think that would good enough. This topic died out but after seeing that we are trying to fill our schedule with easier teams I wanted to see what you guys thought about it.

04-25-2008, 11:44 AM	#70 (permalink)
laservet Waterboy Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 16 Cash: 1,088.80 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 1,088.80 Donate	Just so it isn't so light the TV contract dries up.

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