Gillespie: No, Holtz should not be in the hall of fame - Notre Dame Football Discussion

**EnviedOne** · 05-10-2008, 05:00 PM

"My mother always told me if you can't say something nice about someone, don't say anything at all"
Lou Holtz has a sideline conference with his players as the South Carolina Gamecocks take on South Florida at Williams-Brice Stadium Saturday. via Thestate.com

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**kmoose** · 05-10-2008, 09:11 PM

*chuckles* So Lou left "baggage" at USC, huh? Everyone seems to forget WHY Lou had trouble with the NCAA, at South Carolina. For getting athletes extra tutoring sessions (more than were allowed). I mean, heaven forbid he try to help them LEARN. Isn't that what going to college is all about? Shame on you, Lou.

**SoCalDomer** · 05-10-2008, 10:35 PM

Looking at the enitrety of Lou's history, he is one of the classiest coaches to have coached in the modern era. On top of that, he was successful.

The allegations of violations at Arkansas and SoCarolina were more a reflection of the fact those are SEC schools than anything Lou did or didn't do. The SEC epitomizes what is wrong with college football: success at the expenses of education. Ride the backs of their athletes to the bank.

Junkhead · 05-11-2008, 12:37 AM

That article is junk, crap that like shouldn't even get posted on IE.

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05-10-2008, 09:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
kmoose Varsity Club Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 318 Cash: 3,811.62 Bank: 8,705.12 Total Bankroll: 12,516.74 Donate	chuckles So Lou left "baggage" at USC, huh? Everyone seems to forget WHY Lou had trouble with the NCAA, at South Carolina. For getting athletes extra tutoring sessions (more than were allowed). I mean, heaven forbid he try to help them LEARN. Isn't that what going to college is all about? Shame on you, Lou.

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SoCalDomer Moderator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Here I am Posts: 3,788 Cash: 8,568.18 Bank: 217,412.14 Total Bankroll: 225,980.32 Donate	Looking at the enitrety of Lou's history, he is one of the classiest coaches to have coached in the modern era. On top of that, he was successful. The allegations of violations at Arkansas and SoCarolina were more a reflection of the fact those are SEC schools than anything Lou did or didn't do. The SEC epitomizes what is wrong with college football: success at the expenses of education. Ride the backs of their athletes to the bank.

05-11-2008, 12:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
Junkhead R.I.P. Goshen Gipper Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 1,813 Cash: 856.90 Bank: 19,388.32 Total Bankroll: 20,245.22 Donate	That article is junk, crap that like shouldn't even get posted on IE.

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