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**Legacy** · 05-19-2008, 10:11 PM

VV,
I understand that you are saying:
- you are not that familiar with Notre Dame and its academics
- Michigan, of which you have knowledge, has recently "rightfully" been "exposed" for the academics of its football team by the school newspaper, and
- Notre Dame has so much higher graduation rates that, therefore, there must be something similarly wrong, especially with ND's success on the football field and in recruiting
- therefore, you distrust results that are higher than others, until you get full information that no academic fraud or grade inflation is going on

You seem open to obtaining information about Notre Dame's academics.
1. There are no easy or jock majors at Notre Dame. As an athlete, you have the same choices as everyone, are scattered throughout the dorms with everyone else, and are given the same tests. Here are the majors: Majors, Minors, and Programs // Academics // University of Notre Dame Others may be architecture, engineering, liberal arts, social studies, etc.
I have heard that about 30% of the football players are in the School of Business, which is in the top 25 in the country.
2. Achievement - the ND football team scored an average GPA of above 3.0 for the fifth consecutive semester. Before Weis, the highest was 2.9. 51 players were above 3.0. Notre Dame Football Team Eclipses 3.0 GPA For Fifth Straight Semester :: Prior to 2005, Irish football team had not earned a cumulative GPA above 3.0 for a semester.
3. The NCAA Grad Rates above are based on getting a degree in 6 years. Notre Dame's football program just got the Football Coaches when they tied with Northwestern in '08 with a four year grad rate of 95%.
4. The average ND student - here's a paragraph from the student paper on this fall's class - "Academic criteria for selection has remained as competitive in previous years. The average student graduating in the top 5 percent of their high school class, Saracino said. The average score on the SAT was 1400, Saracino said, and 32 on the ACT."
How does the football team's grad rate compare to the overall student graduation rate, taking the same courses?
(This data is from the year prior to this most recent - http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/inst2007/513.pdf) Overall, ND students graduate at 96% in 4 years, the football team 93% in '07, going up to 95% in '08)
I hope this gives you some of the facts you did not have and help you.

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Legacy Walk-On Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 150 Cash: 8,375.69 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 8,375.69 Donate	VV, I understand that you are saying: - you are not that familiar with Notre Dame and its academics - Michigan, of which you have knowledge, has recently "rightfully" been "exposed" for the academics of its football team by the school newspaper, and - Notre Dame has so much higher graduation rates that, therefore, there must be something similarly wrong, especially with ND's success on the football field and in recruiting - therefore, you distrust results that are higher than others, until you get full information that no academic fraud or grade inflation is going on You seem open to obtaining information about Notre Dame's academics. 1. There are no easy or jock majors at Notre Dame. As an athlete, you have the same choices as everyone, are scattered throughout the dorms with everyone else, and are given the same tests. Here are the majors: Majors, Minors, and Programs // Academics // University of Notre Dame Others may be architecture, engineering, liberal arts, social studies, etc. I have heard that about 30% of the football players are in the School of Business, which is in the top 25 in the country. 2. Achievement - the ND football team scored an average GPA of above 3.0 for the fifth consecutive semester. Before Weis, the highest was 2.9. 51 players were above 3.0. Notre Dame Football Team Eclipses 3.0 GPA For Fifth Straight Semester :: Prior to 2005, Irish football team had not earned a cumulative GPA above 3.0 for a semester. 3. The NCAA Grad Rates above are based on getting a degree in 6 years. Notre Dame's football program just got the Football Coaches when they tied with Northwestern in '08 with a four year grad rate of 95%. 4. The average ND student - here's a paragraph from the student paper on this fall's class - "Academic criteria for selection has remained as competitive in previous years. The average student graduating in the top 5 percent of their high school class, Saracino said. The average score on the SAT was 1400, Saracino said, and 32 on the ACT." How does the football team's grad rate compare to the overall student graduation rate, taking the same courses? (This data is from the year prior to this most recent - http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/inst2007/513.pdf) Overall, ND students graduate at 96% in 4 years, the football team 93% in '07, going up to 95% in '08) I hope this gives you some of the facts you did not have and help you.