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Old 05-13-2008, 07:20 PM   #15 (permalink)
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IA- my point wasn't that we had great shots at getting these guys (I don't know what our chances are)- my point was that we were going after them and not conceding them automatically like we had in the past. It might take some time to pull a guy out of there- maybe a couple of recruiting cycles to make an impact, but as both the success on the field improves and our attention to the players in unrecruited areas of the past improves and increases, we will start to get them.
Grizz is absolutely right. What does it hurt to offer the kid? Even if he says "No", the Irish are in the same position if they didn't offer! There is no loss of prestige when an unlikely recruit goes elsewhere.
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To briefly summarize what has happened in the recruiting process over the last few weeks.
We beat almost every team to the punch as far as making contact and conducting our evaluations. Since we don't have 100 offers out there right now we were able to focus on our guys and make a great impression on many of them.
Once we hit our main targets we focused on throwing our hat into the ring of some of the more highly tauted prospects that might not have interest, but are the Quality kids whose priorities are in the right place. Landing one of these kids would be considered a success.
Lastly we are going into the back yard of the SEC in order to get involved in the recruitment on some of these SPEEDY southern players.
This recruiting class is just as much about making connections for the future as it is about landing top talent. Three straight top ten classes affords us this ability.
To anwser the question do we have a chance to get Randle, sure we do. although he is an LSU lean if he chooses to play up north we will land him.
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To briefly summarize what has happened in the recruiting process over the last few weeks.
We beat almost every team to the punch as far as making contact and conducting our evaluations. Since we don't have 100 offers out there right now we were able to focus on our guys and make a great impression on many of them.
Once we hit our main targets we focused on throwing our hat into the ring of some of the more highly tauted prospects that might not have interest, but are the Quality kids whose priorities are in the right place. Landing one of these kids would be considered a success.
Lastly we are going into the back yard of the SEC in order to get involved in the recruitment on some of these SPEEDY southern players.
This recruiting class is just as much about making connections for the future as it is about landing top talent. Three straight top ten classes affords us this ability.
To anwser the question do we have a chance to get Randle, sure we do. although he is an LSU lean if he chooses to play up north we will land him.
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Not saying we shouldnt offer the top notch kids at all. I just believe that we should spend more time with those that we have a legit chance with, even those we havent offered. We have NOT pulled a recruit from the state of Louisiana for so long that i cant even remember, or even had a real legit shot with any of them. Will Blackwell was from Cass Tech in Michigan, but not from Louisiana. The only way we have a real legit shot with these Louisiana kids is if the kids actually care about academics, which is often instilled from their PARENTS. If not, sorry but just not very likely. He is staying in the south.
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Not saying we shouldnt offer the top notch kids at all. I just believe that we should spend more time with those that we have a legit chance with, even those we havent offered. We have NOT pulled a recruit from the state of Louisiana for so long that i cant even remember, or even had a real legit shot with any of them. Will Blackwell was from Cass Tech in Michigan, but not from Louisiana. The only way we have a real legit shot with these Louisiana kids is if the kids actually care about academics, which is often instilled from their PARENTS. If not, sorry but just not very likely. He is staying in the south.
I understand what you're saying about time. But, a couple thoughts:

It is up to CW and Co whether their time is wasted by going after recruits that might be hard to pull out of a geographic area. If they don't meet their needs and get top talent, then it's their heads that will roll.

Also, let's say a certain recruit appears to be a Pac-10 lean. What if the only reason it appears that way is because all the other school assumed he would lean that way? What if the Pac-10 did not recruit a "lean" very hard because they assumed he was a Pac-10 lock? By recruiting kids who might be "leans", CW and Co force those schools to recruit just as hard. If they don't, there is a chance ND can pull that kid away from the lean because the Pac-10 teams did not pay as much attention as ND did. Problem is, you won't know unless you try.
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Another possible reason to continue to recruit a specific guy is - an elite athlete may lean to Texas, but because Texas just closed on the #2 in the nation at his position (say QB), this other elite player now is lookuing at us . Happens all the time. I understand your point, IA. Its just we have to go for some of these guys to get any. Like KLM last year. Like Wood this year. Like Crist and Clausen. Maybe poor examples= sorry.
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