'09 CA WR Shaquelle Evans (ND Verbal 11/7/08)

[Jason Pham]

Originally Posted by WeisWeisBaby

Thanks IrishGrizz, I appreciate it. Yeah, I was extremely heartbroken yesterday but I'm trying to pick up the pieces and move forward.

Sorry to hear that WWB. If you want a positive spin, it soudns like you dodged a bullet with the character she's shown you over the last couple of days.

PS: Back to Shaq Evans, s'il te plait.

[irishmarine]

wwb life sucks sometimes bro. better to find out now though then to get married and after a couple years and a kid she leaves ya. keep your head up theres always someone better. plus you can get drunk and throw your socks where ever you want to now and not have to hear about it.

[IrishGrizz]

Check out Shaqs top choices and you see that we have to look good to him. (info from scout)

With u$c already having 3 committed WRs and still in the mix with 2 others (#2 Randall and #3 Brown)

With o$u and 3 committed WRs and still looking at 2 others

With scUM and 2 committed WRs and still looking at #2 Randall

Cali has 1 signed but are they a player???

uCla has no commited guys at wr yet.

Colo has 1 committed WR and 12 offers out to WRs. They might be a player along w uCla.

My

[donjuan]

Originally Posted by Jason Pham

First off, this site has always been free. The Varsity Club is way to voluntarily give support to the people that run this place and to gain a few perks as a result of the support, one of those being able to access information that the moderators and other members do not feel comfortable publicly announcing yet. I'm sure there are things that your sources tell you that they might not want being publicly spread around yet. That sort of information is reserved for the Club who have all agreed to keep the posted inside information just that, inside information. This information, once verified, eventually finds its way into the free forums within a day or two at most. This isn't about money, it's $12 per year, and I don't see a dime of that. This is about our previous commitment to our sources whose confidence we wish to uphold.

The problem you run into Jason, is that when anyone can join this gold club, then who's confidence are you really upholding? The ones who can afford it are in the know? That doesn't exactly deter anybody from joining, so how does that make it exclusive? I guess its exclusive for the fact that not everybody wants to pay 12 dollars. Some people think that information should be completely free. Now if there is something which would be considered public-sensitive, then perhaps the use of the PM to ones who you respect. But when threads turn into "you should join the GC, or this is why you need to join the GC, or I can't say anything else here but I'll say it in the GC", that seems to not uphold the privacy of the ones you want to protect. It seem to entice non-GCmembers to join; therefore increasing the chance of it finding unwarranted publicity. IMO. I don't think this is for profit, just kind-of an inconveniece to the passive ND fan who wants to know, with out paying for it, info in which other sites are offering up freely. No disrespect to you sir, just thought I'd let you know what a few people think.

[Jason Pham]

Originally Posted by donjuan

The problem you run into Jason, is that when anyone can join this gold club, then who's confidence are you really upholding? The ones who can afford it are in the know? That doesn't exactly deter anybody from joining, so how does that make it exclusive? I guess its exclusive for the fact that not everybody wants to pay 12 dollars. Some people think that information should be completely free. Now if there is something which would be considered public-sensitive, then perhaps the use of the PM to ones who you respect. But when threads turn into "you should join the GC, or this is why you need to join the GC, or I can't say anything else here but I'll say it in the GC", that seems to not uphold the privacy of the ones you want to protect. It seem to entice non-GCmembers to join; therefore increasing the chance of it finding unwarranted publicity. IMO. I don't think this is for profit, just kind-of an inconveniece to the passive ND fan who wants to know, with out paying for it, info in which other sites are offering up freely. No disrespect to you sir, just thought I'd let you know what a few people think.

That's a legitimate critique, but as none of us are professional recruitniks but rather are just a group of amateur football fans who happen to stumble upon news from time to time, very few would fork over the twelve dollars for the information alone. As much as our Club Members appreciate the inside information, we simply cannot compete with amount of information that is provided by services which do this for a living.

At the risk of sounding a bit cheesy, I'd like to think that those that join the Club have typical spent some time on this site, contributing to it wherever they can, and have formed a few friendships with some of the other contributors. Sure, there are a few here and there who deviate from the mean, but for the most part, it's almost like a family inside the Club, and we feel comfortable sharing the few scraps of information we get amongst ourselves, and, I think, it is our perogative to do so.

As for what information we do have in the Club that isn't immediately shared in public, we typically discuss rumors that we would liked verified by other members with sources before we announce them publicly, this shields us from the possibility of creating false smoke where there is no fire. Other things include small on-campus scraps of information that we feel don't have a place being discussed on the free boards.

It might not intuitively make sense for us to try and keep things 'secret' in a Club which only takes 12 dollars a year to have access to, but we feel that with those who do join the Club become a part of a small circle of friends with whom we would have shared the information anyway. Just my couple o' cents.

[donjuan]

Originally Posted by Jason Pham

That's a legitimate critique, but as none of us are professional recruitniks but rather are just a group of amateur football fans who happen to stumble upon news from time to time, very few would fork over the twelve dollars for the information alone. As much as our Club Members appreciate the inside information, we simply cannot compete with amount of information that is provided by services which do this for a living.

At the risk of sounding a bit cheesy, I'd like to think that those that join the Club have typical spent some time on this site, contributing to it wherever they can, and have formed a few friendships with some of the other contributors. Sure, there are a few here and there who deviate from the mean, but for the most part, it's almost like a family inside the Club, and we feel comfortable sharing the few scraps of information we get amongst ourselves, and, I think, it is our perogative to do so.

As for what information we do have in the Club that isn't immediately shared in public, we typically discuss rumors that we would liked verified by other members with sources before we announce them publicly, this shields us from the possibility of creating false smoke where there is no fire. Other things include small on-campus scraps of information that we feel don't have a place being discussed on the free boards.

It might not intuitively make sense for us to try and keep things 'secret' in a Club which only takes 12 dollars a year to have access to, but we feel that with those who do join the Club become a part of a small circle of friends with whom we would have shared the information anyway. Just my couple o' cents.

Point taken. For the rest of you, sorry for the inthread hijack! I'm hearing our stance with Shaq is really strong. I know you all hear about USC and UCLA, but there's a lot more to Shaquelle than that. I'm kind-of an unknown in your IE world, but there are some big time recruits who are strongly leaning towards Southbend, and Shaq might be one of them. Perhaps we get 2 more before summer 2-a-days?

[Jason Pham]

Originally Posted by donjuan

Point taken. For the rest of you, sorry for the inthread hijack! I'm hearing our stance with Shaq is really strong. I know you all hear about USC and UCLA, but there's a lot more to Shaquelle than that. I'm kind-of an unknown in your IE world, but there are some big time recruits who are strongly leaning towards Southbend, and Shaq might be one of them. Perhaps we get 2 more before summer 2-a-days?

Aye, sorry for the hijack folks !

Here's a bit of information, the depth at WR as well as their depth of their current WR commits have been a huge point of concern for Shaq regarding USC. Evans may be wanting to contribute to a team where his unique talents and abilities are needed, such as the Irish. The Notre Dame staff has made it very clear to him that he is a primary target on their WR board. Should the sentiments between Notre Dame and Shaq continue to play out, I would not be at all surprised to see him join the Notre Dame family when he visits this Fall.