'08 NE OL Trevor Robinson (Signed LOI to ND)

[Stumper67]

Originally Posted by rockne19

if robinson is better than page, then why doesn't robinson have alot of offers from the heavyweights? neb.,nd,mich.,and t am.

Page is from SEC country... So it's only natural that SEC schools would be all over him because he lives in that region... It just so happens that right now the SEC is in great shape overall as a conference... So it stands to reason his offer list would look better than a player from rural Nebraska that people had pegged as a Husker from day one...

[IrishCalves]

Right. The schools that have the most success in the state of Nebraska are NU, Iowa, Iowa State, and Kansas State. After that, your odds of getting any top flight talent from Nebraska are typically between slim and none. There's the occasional successful raid, but you never see an "outsider" program come away with more than one kid from the state. Programs know that, and won't waste their time on battles they can't win. A few will try to sniff a kid out if they get back a questionare from a kid that is genuinely positive, but most don't even bother to pursue a kid beyond the feeler stage unless the feedback from there is substantial.

I'm willing to bet most recruiting coordinators saw NU and ND offer the kid on September 1st, looked at the rest of the coaching staff, and said, "Stick a fork in 'em, he's done. We don't have a chance."

Whereas with Page? Totally different recruiting scene. The SEC is without a doubt the shark pit of college football recruiting. The # of soft verbals, decommits, and poaching tactics witnessed from that region is significantly higher than the rest of the nation. So, when a kid pops onto radar screens from SEC territory, everyone jumps in and says, "fair game!" I'm also willing to bet Kenneth gave off good vibes to any of those recruiting him. Otherwise, you just wouldn't see far away programs like ND, PSU, or Colorado bother.

They've both got grades, and they've both got talent. In this instance, the reason for the disproportionate # of offers split between the two is geographical, and potentially based on the vibes each prospect and HS coach gave to recruiters when they came a knockin'. For all we know, Trevor had a short list of 5-10 colleges, and was happy to get those offers and move forward. Meanwhile Kenneth may not have had a clue, and welcomed everyone that sniffed him out. Who knows. But in this case, I wouldn't worry about the talent level. The clearest indicator to me was that when Trevor committed to NU, Page got offered in his place. He's a talented player, but Kenneth Page is a plan B offer for ND (crazy, I know right?). With that in mind, I really, really like both players, and if this were another year I'd lobby for both. But if given the choice, I pick Trevor.

[dyrtdogg]

Originally Posted by IrishCalves

Right. The schools that have the most success in the state of Nebraska are NU, Iowa, Iowa State, and Kansas State. After that, your odds of getting any top flight talent from Nebraska are typically between slim and none. There's the occasional successful raid, but you never see an "outsider" program come away with more than one kid from the state. Programs know that, and won't waste their time on battles they can't win. A few will try to sniff a kid out if they get back a questionare from a kid that is genuinely positive, but most don't even bother to pursue a kid beyond the feeler stage unless the feedback from there is substantial.

I'm willing to bet most recruiting coordinators saw NU and ND offer the kid on September 1st, looked at the rest of the coaching staff, and said, "Stick a fork in 'em, he's done. We don't have a chance."

Whereas with Page? Totally different recruiting scene. The SEC is without a doubt the shark pit of college football recruiting. The # of soft verbals, decommits, and poaching tactics witnessed from that region is significantly higher than the rest of the nation. So, when a kid pops onto radar screens from SEC territory, everyone jumps in and says, "fair game!" I'm also willing to bet Kenneth gave off good vibes to any of those recruiting him. Otherwise, you just wouldn't see far away programs like ND, PSU, or Colorado bother.

They've both got grades, and they've both got talent. In this instance, the reason for the disproportionate # of offers split between the two is geographical, and potentially based on the vibes each prospect and HS coach gave to recruiters when they came a knockin'. For all we know, Trevor had a short list of 5-10 colleges, and was happy to get those offers and move forward. Meanwhile Kenneth may not have had a clue, and welcomed everyone that sniffed him out. Who knows. But in this case, I wouldn't worry about the talent level. The clearest indicator to me was that when Trevor committed to NU, Page got offered in his place. He's a talented player, but Kenneth Page is a plan B offer for ND (crazy, I know right?). With that in mind, I really, really like both players, and if this were another year I'd lobby for both. But if given the choice, I pick Trevor.

Thanks for the insight. Living in SE Missouri, there are few chances to witness the recruiting process of top-flight D1 talent (about the only one I can remember was Tyler Hansbrough). I'm still a novice to the ins and outs of recruiting, But sweet Jesus, it gets addictive quickly.

[GhostSpirit]

Originally Posted by IrishCalves

Right. The schools that have the most success in the state of Nebraska are NU, Iowa, Iowa State, and Kansas State. After that, your odds of getting any top flight talent from Nebraska are typically between slim and none. There's the occasional successful raid, but you never see an "outsider" program come away with more than one kid from the state. Programs know that, and won't waste their time on battles they can't win. A few will try to sniff a kid out if they get back a questionare from a kid that is genuinely positive, but most don't even bother to pursue a kid beyond the feeler stage unless the feedback from there is substantial.

I'm willing to bet most recruiting coordinators saw NU and ND offer the kid on September 1st, looked at the rest of the coaching staff, and said, "Stick a fork in 'em, he's done. We don't have a chance."

Whereas with Page? Totally different recruiting scene. The SEC is without a doubt the shark pit of college football recruiting. The # of soft verbals, decommits, and poaching tactics witnessed from that region is significantly higher than the rest of the nation. So, when a kid pops onto radar screens from SEC territory, everyone jumps in and says, "fair game!" I'm also willing to bet Kenneth gave off good vibes to any of those recruiting him. Otherwise, you just wouldn't see far away programs like ND, PSU, or Colorado bother.

They've both got grades, and they've both got talent. In this instance, the reason for the disproportionate # of offers split between the two is geographical, and potentially based on the vibes each prospect and HS coach gave to recruiters when they came a knockin'. For all we know, Trevor had a short list of 5-10 colleges, and was happy to get those offers and move forward. Meanwhile Kenneth may not have had a clue, and welcomed everyone that sniffed him out. Who knows. But in this case, I wouldn't worry about the talent level. The clearest indicator to me was that when Trevor committed to NU, Page got offered in his place. He's a talented player, but Kenneth Page is a plan B offer for ND (crazy, I know right?). With that in mind, I really, really like both players, and if this were another year I'd lobby for both. But if given the choice, I pick Trevor.

Calves, that, my friend, is why you're the man!

[Fishin'_Irish]

That picture of Lou next to all of Calves's posts make them seem like words of gold.

[Irish93]

Originally Posted by irishunclebill

GG- I heard the same thing you did, but either he was wrong or Rivals disagrees with him, at least as far as the two schools involved. They now list ND & NU as high interest for Trev, and scUM as Low. He is also no longer a "soft verbal" on Rivals.

I have read several rumors that Michigan is out, and that it is, in fact, down to ND & NU. As other people have said, I think that it would be tough to re-commit to NU after all of the nasty things the fans said about his dad.

[irishfan81]

Doesn't his dad want him to go to ND but Trevor is confused on what to do. Nebraska hasn't had a good line in a long time since the Dave Rimington days although I wasn't alive back then. We have to have this farm boy. He will be an All-American and a Outland Trophy Winner when it's all said and done. He's the #1 Lineman on the board ever since they offered him early in the period. He's a must get if we get Trevor to de-commit from Nebraska this would be huge. I could see him beating out Careful one of those guys as a Freshman and starting. But he's been on campus but well just have to wait and see what he does.