'08 IN WR John Goodman (Signed LOI to ND) - Page 17 - Notre Dame Football Discussion

Junkhead · 10-17-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Axl Rose

I saw on Rivals he runs a 10.8 in the 100 meters, anyone know how good that time is? What does that translates to in the 40?

It seems like the Indiana state champion 100m time is usually 10.3-10.5 or so. For comparison.

KamaraPolice · 10-18-2007, 12:11 AM

if he shaved a second off that 100 meter, he'd be an olympic gold medalist. so while 10.8 isnt top end speed, its fast enough to be one of the fastest guys on the field at any one time.

edit: i just found this, from wikipedia:

The current men's world record of 9.74 seconds is held by Asafa Powell of Jamaica, set in Rieti, Italy on September 9, 2007

**Z-Bo** · 10-19-2007, 06:40 AM

I was reading some comments by Texas Tech QB Graham Harrell about his record-smashing team mate, wide receiver Michael Crabtree. He said that Crabtree is the only WR he has ever seen who sees the ball come out of the QB's hand, and that it enables him to get in better position to catch the ball than other WRs. He said most WRs react to the football at the last second, but Crabtree gives himself so much time by seeing the ball come out of the QB's hands.

Anyway, this anecdote is just one example of how you don't need amazing track speed to be a great football player. There's also the ability to make moves going full-hilt. Goodman looks like he runs pretty effortlessly.

By the way, I spoke to Smardzija's cousin once, and he told me that Jeff's brother was the one who really transformed Smardzija from a tall kid who could catch the football into a guy who was a legitimate deep threat. He said that beginning in Smardzija's sophmore year in HS, they would do speed conditioning drills, and that Jeff shaved like 0.3 seconds off his 40x as a result.

**ND=NC** · 10-19-2007, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Z-Bo

I was reading some comments by Texas Tech QB Graham Harrell about his record-smashing team mate, wide receiver Michael Crabtree. He said that Crabtree is the only WR he has ever seen who sees the ball come out of the QB's hand, and that it enables him to get in better position to catch the ball than other WRs. He said most WRs react to the football at the last second, but Crabtree gives himself so much time by seeing the ball come out of the QB's hands.

Anyway, this anecdote is just one example of how you don't need amazing track speed to be a great football player. There's also the ability to make moves going full-hilt. Goodman looks like he runs pretty effortlessly.

By the way, I spoke to Smardzija's cousin once, and he told me that Jeff's brother was the one who really transformed Smardzija from a tall kid who could catch the football into a guy who was a legitimate deep threat. He said that beginning in Smardzija's sophmore year in HS, they would do speed conditioning drills, and that Jeff shaved like 0.3 seconds off his 40x as a result.

It's not hard to bring your 40 time down when you start working with a strength coach that knows what he is doing. I ran a pretty consistant 4.65 40 in High School, but as soon as I started working With Dick Hartzel at YSU I brought it down to the high 4.4's

**Z-Bo** · 10-20-2007, 12:27 AM

My point wasn't stated so that we could discuss how "easy" it is to do. It was stated so that people know that Jeff isn't some natural talent and that he did train to get that speed, which John will have to do more of if he wants to be Shark Jr. It's only a matter of time before the comparisons start once he gets on campus, but John will make a name for himself, I'm sure.

**kjones** · 10-20-2007, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ND=NC

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It's not hard to bring your 40 time down when you start working with a strength coach that knows what he is doing. I ran a pretty consistant 4.65 40 in High School, but as soon as I started working With Dick Hartzel at YSU I brought it down to the high 4.4's

Are you talking real 40 times or "football" 40 times? Real ones I would say would have to be electronically timed and from a starting gun, like the Olympics, especially if you are going to use Olympic times as a comparison. Too many "football" 40 times are faster than the fastest men on the planet.

High 4.4 in real times is freaking fast!!

**ND=NC** · 10-20-2007, 12:49 PM

We're talking 10 years ago. How they used to do it was three coaches would clock you at the same time to ensure consistency. If one was way different than the other 2 they would obviously throw it out. I was never clocked electronically, but I was clocked well over 20 times and got consistent 4.45-4.50 times on probably the last 7 or 8 times I ran. Please don't discredit me as you don't see me doing it to you.

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10-18-2007, 12:11 AM	#114 (permalink)
KamaraPolice Reps Are a Girls BFF Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,139 Cash: 100.00 Bank: 7,143.75 Total Bankroll: 7,243.75 Donate	if he shaved a second off that 100 meter, he'd be an olympic gold medalist. so while 10.8 isnt top end speed, its fast enough to be one of the fastest guys on the field at any one time. edit: i just found this, from wikipedia: The current men's world record of 9.74 seconds is held by Asafa Powell of Jamaica, set in Rieti, Italy on September 9, 2007

10-19-2007, 06:40 AM	#115 (permalink)
Z-Bo Walk-On Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 148 Cash: 1,034.17 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 1,034.17 Donate	I was reading some comments by Texas Tech QB Graham Harrell about his record-smashing team mate, wide receiver Michael Crabtree. He said that Crabtree is the only WR he has ever seen who sees the ball come out of the QB's hand, and that it enables him to get in better position to catch the ball than other WRs. He said most WRs react to the football at the last second, but Crabtree gives himself so much time by seeing the ball come out of the QB's hands. Anyway, this anecdote is just one example of how you don't need amazing track speed to be a great football player. There's also the ability to make moves going full-hilt. Goodman looks like he runs pretty effortlessly. By the way, I spoke to Smardzija's cousin once, and he told me that Jeff's brother was the one who really transformed Smardzija from a tall kid who could catch the football into a guy who was a legitimate deep threat. He said that beginning in Smardzija's sophmore year in HS, they would do speed conditioning drills, and that Jeff shaved like 0.3 seconds off his 40x as a result.

10-20-2007, 12:27 AM	#117 (permalink)
Z-Bo Walk-On Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 148 Cash: 1,034.17 Bank: 0.00 Total Bankroll: 1,034.17 Donate	My point wasn't stated so that we could discuss how "easy" it is to do. It was stated so that people know that Jeff isn't some natural talent and that he did train to get that speed, which John will have to do more of if he wants to be Shark Jr. It's only a matter of time before the comparisons start once he gets on campus, but John will make a name for himself, I'm sure.

10-20-2007, 12:49 PM	#119 (permalink)
ND=NC Community Mod Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Crestview, Fl Posts: 4,487 Cash: 14,993.86 Bank: 122,161.63 Total Bankroll: 137,155.49 Donate	We're talking 10 years ago. How they used to do it was three coaches would clock you at the same time to ensure consistency. If one was way different than the other 2 they would obviously throw it out. I was never clocked electronically, but I was clocked well over 20 times and got consistent 4.45-4.50 times on probably the last 7 or 8 times I ran. Please don't discredit me as you don't see me doing it to you.

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