'08 KS LB Arthur Brown (Miami Verbal)

[Stew654]

Would of said slim to none just a month ago. But with ethan johnson jumping on board :O and the way this 08 class is shaping up i would say that now we have alot of our final targets taking notice of what is goin on. Brown is coming up next week, Sabino and KLM are planning summer trips. I dont think anything is out of the question for the rest of the way

[benneboy]

just to clarify, jeremy brown is coming up. arthur brown has said he plans on visiting, but I don't believe a firm date has been set yet.

[IrishCalves]

I'll show a little caution in saying this:

Everything depends on how the visit goes. The school HAS to impress Arthur, and Corwin HAS to connect well with him, for us to have a shot. Not out of the question, but we've got to go to work, with guys like USC, OU, and "The U" ahead of us. Otherwise, our goose is cooked. Even at that, I'm still skeptical of our odds.

A recent article had it that he wants to play OLB because he can stay lighter and faster there. To me, that sounds like he's planning to play in a 4-3, because ND's OLB's are NOT going to stay light at all - Fleming said the staff wants him as close to 250 as they can by the time he gets to South Bend. For those curious, he's currently about 215 pounds.

That would pretty much mean Brown would have to play ILB for the Irish... and even at that he'd have to bulk up enough to take on offensive lineman with some regularity. I'm not saying he couldn't succeed in a 3-4, but I tend to think he'd be leery of signing up for a defense that asks their linebackers to be bigger than the norm, rather than quicker than the norm.

Thoughts?

[Irishknight1023]

Originally Posted by GoldenDomer3

I'll show a little caution in saying this:

Everything depends on how the visit goes. The school HAS to impress Arthur, and Corwin HAS to connect well with him, for us to have a shot. Not out of the question, but we've got to go to work, with guys like USC, OU, and "The U" ahead of us. Otherwise, our goose is cooked. Even at that, I'm still skeptical of our odds.

A recent article had it that he wants to play OLB because he can stay lighter and faster there. To me, that sounds like he's planning to play in a 4-3, because ND's OLB's are NOT going to stay light at all - Fleming said the staff wants him as close to 250 as they can by the time he gets to South Bend. For those curious, he's currently about 215 pounds.

That would pretty much mean Brown would have to play ILB for the Irish... and even at that he'd have to bulk up enough to take on offensive lineman with some regularity. I'm not saying he couldn't succeed in a 3-4, but I tend to think he'd be leery of signing up for a defense that asks their linebackers to be bigger than the norm, rather than quicker than the norm.

Thoughts?

------I don't see A. Brown coming here because when he talks about ND in that article it sounds like he's more about wanting to see USC/ND and then remembers to add...Oh yeah he likes ND too. He won't have to be 240 or 250 at ILB, but he'll have to be around 235. He sounds like he likes the 4-3 defense as an OLB so I like CB would REALLY have to sell him to get him to want to be an ILB here. Fleming isn't at 215 right now, but at 237 and still runs a 4.5/4.6...

Until Fleming starts playing upright at the line of scrimmage, he'll continue to work on getting after the quarterback and keeping his speed. Fleming said he's up to 237 pounds and hopes to play this season at 245.

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[jboxer562]

nice post

[GoshenGipper]

Originally Posted by GoldenDomer3

I'll show a little caution in saying this:

Everything depends on how the visit goes. The school HAS to impress Arthur, and Corwin HAS to connect well with him, for us to have a shot. Not out of the question, but we've got to go to work, with guys like USC, OU, and "The U" ahead of us. Otherwise, our goose is cooked. Even at that, I'm still skeptical of our odds.

A recent article had it that he wants to play OLB because he can stay lighter and faster there. To me, that sounds like he's planning to play in a 4-3, because ND's OLB's are NOT going to stay light at all - Fleming said the staff wants him as close to 250 as they can by the time he gets to South Bend. For those curious, he's currently about 215 pounds.

That would pretty much mean Brown would have to play ILB for the Irish... and even at that he'd have to bulk up enough to take on offensive lineman with some regularity. I'm not saying he couldn't succeed in a 3-4, but I tend to think he'd be leery of signing up for a defense that asks their linebackers to be bigger than the norm, rather than quicker than the norm.

Thoughts?

I agree with everything you said there.

[benneboy]

I agree, but if Brown has aspirations to play in the NFL, which we can only assume he will, he is going to have to add some weight. There aren't any 210 lb. LB's in the NFL and very few in college. With his frame, Brown is going to accidentally hit 225 or 230 in two years and I think that would be about right for the ILB in the 3-4. Brown can say he doesn't want to put on weight, but 210 isn't going to cut it at OU, USC, or anywhere else. TE's would eat him up, let alone offensive lineman. John Carlson weighs 260.